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Preventing rust on rotors - help needed....
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Re: Preventing rust on rotors - help needed.... -
04-27-2007
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:54:09 -0500, pAuL <";oi-up97g"@houston.rr.com wrote: Peter wrote: 2002 Monte Carlo with 4 wheel disc brakes.... I keep the car outside covered by a car cover. It gets used every 3 or 4 months for special trips, but stays idle most of the time...sorta like a spare backup vehicle when the daily driver is in for maintenance or repair. Is there any way to minimize rust from forming on the rotors?? I know a little rust is normal but these are rusting pretty badly and screwing up the pads..... Seems that I have to disassemble and clean the brake parts before using the car. Is there a way to prevent this from happening ??? It's not worthwhile taking the car out every week and then have to clean the road garbage off the paint coat and windows..... depending upon time of year, the roads are wet...snowy, dirty or full of tar, bugs and insects. What other options are available ? Shoot brake parts cleaner on the rotors and pads and wipe them off before using car ?? Help !!! Tia Peter Take the rotors off and store them where it is dry. Sounds like a royal pita, but I can get them back on and adjusted in less than an hour......so yeah..... this might be workable if other options are not available. I know dealers have the same problem with cars sitting on their lots for a few months... how do they manage the problem ?? Peter |
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2002 Monte Carlo with 4 wheel disc brakes.... I keep the car outside covered by a car cover. It gets used every 3 or 4 months for special trips, but stays idle most of the time...sorta like a spare backup vehicle when the daily driver is in for maintenance or repair. Is there any way to minimize rust from forming on the rotors?? I know a little rust is normal but these are rusting pretty badly and screwing up the pads..... Seems that I have to disassemble and clean the brake parts before using the car. Is there a way to prevent this from happening ??? It's not worthwhile taking the car out every week and then have to clean the road garbage off the paint coat and windows..... depending upon time of year, the roads are wet...snowy, dirty or full of tar, bugs and insects. What other options are available ? Shoot brake parts cleaner on the rotors and pads and wipe them off before using car ?? |
Pete. This is not unique to GM. It poses no problem and won't hurt the
pads - not sure why you're saying that the rust is screwing up the pads.
Your best bet is going to be running the car every week or two.
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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net
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"Peter" <Peter (AT) spamtrap (DOT) net> wrote in message news:q09233panc88dut0snvroiqo8glq0u8e7k (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... It's quite normal for today's rotors to rust quickly if not used regularly Pete. This is not unique to GM. It poses no problem and won't hurt the pads - not sure why you're saying that the rust is screwing up the pads. Your best bet is going to be running the car every week or two. |
Bought the car new in 2002 drove it home from the dealership.
Used it for the summer and put it away (under car cover) for
several months during the winter. At this point it became a spare car
and when I drove it again there was noticeable pulsation....grabbing and
high spot when braking. This diminished over time but never
went away. I was seldom using the car so it didn't matter
much. I pulled the rotors this week and they are in pretty sad
shape .... the original pad rust outline was still visible (along with a
current rust outline). As a backup car to the daily beater it has
less than 40K miles I'm retired so ...no commute,
no stop and go, no taxiing kids around to school events. The
daily beater doesn't get all that much use either.
Braking didn't clean the rotors...they were too badly rusted.
Time to look at options before throwing a new set of
rotors and pads at the car.... (history repeating itself).
Option #1
Paul suggested keeping the
rotors off the car. This will work during periods of
extended storage...(like over the wintertime)...it doesn't
take much to throw them back on as long as the caliper
is supported properly.
Option #2
Run the car more frequently... This is actually more of
a problem because it's parked off to the side in a space
that's difficult to manuveur out of. There are birds and
trees all over the place. Remove the car cover and it
will soon get filthy with bird droppings, sap, branches and
leaves.
Any other options are much appreciated !!
Thanks !!
Peter
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 07:52:49 -0400, "Mike Marlow" <mmarlow (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote: "Peter" <Peter (AT) spamtrap (DOT) net> wrote in message news:q09233panc88dut0snvroiqo8glq0u8e7k (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... It's quite normal for today's rotors to rust quickly if not used regularly Pete. This is not unique to GM. It poses no problem and won't hurt the pads - not sure why you're saying that the rust is screwing up the pads. Your best bet is going to be running the car every week or two. An explanation Bought the car new in 2002 drove it home from the dealership. Used it for the summer and put it away (under car cover) for several months during the winter. At this point it became a spare car and when I drove it again there was noticeable pulsation....grabbing and high spot when braking. This diminished over time but never went away. I was seldom using the car so it didn't matter much. I pulled the rotors this week and they are in pretty sad shape .... the original pad rust outline was still visible (along with a current rust outline). As a backup car to the daily beater it has less than 40K miles I'm retired so ...no commute, no stop and go, no taxiing kids around to school events. The daily beater doesn't get all that much use either. Braking didn't clean the rotors...they were too badly rusted. Time to look at options before throwing a new set of rotors and pads at the car.... (history repeating itself). Option #1 Paul suggested keeping the rotors off the car. This will work during periods of extended storage...(like over the wintertime)...it doesn't take much to throw them back on as long as the caliper is supported properly. Option #2 Run the car more frequently... This is actually more of a problem because it's parked off to the side in a space that's difficult to manuveur out of. There are birds and trees all over the place. Remove the car cover and it will soon get filthy with bird droppings, sap, branches and leaves. Any other options are much appreciated !! Thanks !! Peter |
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I know dealers have the same problem with cars sitting on their lots for a few months... how do they manage the problem ?? Peter |
salt/sand the
roads a lot in winter weather. Otherwise the fresh water surface rusting
doesnt seem to
be too bad.
Hosing down the rotors with fresh water prior to storage to remove the salt
might help.
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:54:09 -0500, pAuL <";oi-up97g"@houston.rr.com wrote: Peter wrote: 2002 Monte Carlo with 4 wheel disc brakes.... I keep the car outside covered by a car cover. It gets used every 3 or 4 months for special trips, but stays idle most of the time...sorta like a spare backup vehicle when the daily driver is in for maintenance or repair. Is there any way to minimize rust from forming on the rotors?? I know a little rust is normal but these are rusting pretty badly and screwing up the pads..... Seems that I have to disassemble and clean the brake parts before using the car. Is there a way to prevent this from happening ??? It's not worthwhile taking the car out every week and then have to clean the road garbage off the paint coat and windows..... depending upon time of year, the roads are wet...snowy, dirty or full of tar, bugs and insects. What other options are available ? Shoot brake parts cleaner on the rotors and pads and wipe them off before using car ?? Help !!! Tia Peter Take the rotors off and store them where it is dry. Sounds like a royal pita, but I can get them back on and adjusted in less than an hour......so yeah..... this might be workable if other options are not available. I know dealers have the same problem with cars sitting on their lots for a few months... how do they manage the problem ?? Peter |
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2002 Monte Carlo with 4 wheel disc brakes.... I keep the car outside covered by a car cover. It gets used every 3 or 4 months for special trips, but stays idle most of the time...sorta like a spare backup vehicle when the daily driver is in for maintenance or repair. Is there any way to minimize rust from forming on the rotors?? I know a little rust is normal but these are rusting pretty badly and screwing up the pads..... Seems that I have to disassemble and clean the brake parts before using the car. Is there a way to prevent this from happening ??? It's not worthwhile taking the car out every week and then have to clean the road garbage off the paint coat and windows..... depending upon time of year, the roads are wet...snowy, dirty or full of tar, bugs and insects. What other options are available ? Shoot brake parts cleaner on the rotors and pads and wipe them off before using car ?? Help !!! Tia Peter |
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When I store a care outside for an extended time, I park it on a tarp then pull that tarp up the sides and hold in place with bungee cords. This will minimalism the ground moisture that the care is exposed to. Then I'll drape another tarp down and hold in place with bungees. Do this when the car is dry. Any moisture trapped inside can damage the paint. You may want to put a "Dri-Z-Air" canister in or even an electric heater to help control the moisture. You may want to get one of those cheap canvas car sheds (not cover) that you see all over the place. This will eliminate the problems of trapped moisture damaging the paint. But still park it on a tarp. My '93 Grand Prix is stored this way and hasn't been driven in at least four weeks and the rotors are still nice and shinny. We have a lot of rain and morning fog and condensation. Since it is not driven much, I'd get one of those battery chargers that maintain the charge so that the battery remains healthy. |
the car all that much so a ground tarp is a great idea
Thanks Thanks and more Thanks !!
Peter
ps...can't use the car shed, my HOA would have a fit !!
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:00:07 -0700, "Scott Buchanan" <t120rv (AT) pacifier (DOT) com> wrote: When I store a care outside for an extended time, I park it on a tarp then pull that tarp up the sides and hold in place with bungee cords. This will minimalism the ground moisture that the care is exposed to. Then I'll drape another tarp down and hold in place with bungees. Do this when the car is dry. Any moisture trapped inside can damage the paint. You may want to put a "Dri-Z-Air" canister in or even an electric heater to help control the moisture. You may want to get one of those cheap canvas car sheds (not cover) that you see all over the place. This will eliminate the problems of trapped moisture damaging the paint. But still park it on a tarp. My '93 Grand Prix is stored this way and hasn't been driven in at least four weeks and the rotors are still nice and shinny. We have a lot of rain and morning fog and condensation. Since it is not driven much, I'd get one of those battery chargers that maintain the charge so that the battery remains healthy. Whoo Hoo !!! Good Suggestion !!! Darn, that's thinking !! I don't use the car all that much so a ground tarp is a great idea Thanks Thanks and more Thanks !! Peter ps...can't use the car shed, my HOA would have a fit !! |
There is another way IF you want to bother with it. Bag the car in a car
bag and use a vacuum to suck out the air, no air = no rust.
http://www.autoanything.com/car-covers/20A50302A1.aspx
http://www.carcover.com/
http://carbag.com/
Also replace the brake pads with a good ceramic and they won't rust
into scrap either.
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Steve W.
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Have you tried putting grease on the rotors?  |
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