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Default Re: A hydrogen fuel-cells vehicles or arourd TODAY - 02-01-2007 , 05:31 PM






Air Products has selling hydrogen for more than fifty years. The price has
never gone anywhere but up. It has been shipped as a liquid under 2,500 PSI,
in bottles like oxygen. To be used as a fuel for vehicles there will need
to be a nationwide HP hydrogen distribution system or reformers at every
filling station, as is now the case, or in every vehicle.


mike


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In article <45Gdna4rRMMZQCXYUSdV9g (AT) ptd (DOT) net>,
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote:

GM has had, for at least four years, a vehicle the BURNS hydrogen. They
also currently have an experimental plug-in, fuel cell/gas hybrid. The
problem is nobody, except the government, is willing to pay the fuel cell
cost of $1,000 per kilowatt of capacity, about 10 times the price of a
kilowatt from a battery, and 30 times the price of a kilowatt from a
gasoline engine.
Just burning the Hydrogen makes much sense.
An IC engine is much lower cost than a fuel cell.

In addition nobody is willing to invest the billions need to pay for the
installation a completely new national distribution system for hydrogen
fuel. Currently hydrogen pricing does not include the 18.5c federal the
state average .28c road use taxes. Even though GMs hybrid car AVERAGES
80
MPG, few are willing to pay Air Products $9 a kilo, about $1 per eight
miles, for liquid hydrogen
Initially any new fuel is very expensive, but $200 oil can change a lot.
Hydrogen can be made with solar power that we now waste. This may even
reduce Global Warming (kind of kidding on GM).



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