since
J. Higgens wont post this I will offer the following link for you amusement

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:19:58 -0500, Tom fired up the etcha-a-sketch and
scratched out:

....and that link is?






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"PerfectReign" <theperfectreign (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Tom wrote:
And GM has had how many????????

"Jim_Higgins" <gordian238 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Even with jap gov.. help they are still losing sales and money

Tom wrote:
You sure you aren't just a new nym of Mikey? Same blind, GM at all costs
rhetoric, facts be damned.

"Jim_Higgins" <gordian238 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

The thing is I worked for gm for 35 years and after that I worked as a
consultant and visited Ford, Chrysler, and Toyota plants, and some
engineering offices and I didn’t see a dimes worth of difference between
them, but when I had to meet with jap personnel it was a very cold and
unfriendly meeting. The US govt. since they tried to break up GM like they
did the telephone company buy encouraging the japs to build here and many
of our states put up many dollars
to help them do it. They bought with them cheap parts, engineering, and
tooling from other countrys and caused
the us companys to follow suit. With Honda and Toyota starting off with new
factories etc it caused the us companys to spend billions of their own money
to build new and follow, I could go on but maybe you don’t have the facts
and should look it up what caused the down fall of the us companys it was
not all management fault. Check out how many parts factories GM and Ford had
to shut down because of the import of cheap parts and labor