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Mike Marlow
 
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Default Re: Why are GM fuel pumps so short lived? - 02-03-2006 , 03:11 PM







"dnoyeB" <Fake (AT) ThisOneIsFake (DOT) com> wrote

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My blazer has a replaceable fuel filter along the underside of vehicle
by driver door, as well as a filter at the pump assembly. It eats fuel
pumps at least 1 every other year since 95. Lifetime warranty came in
handy, but install fee has kicked my ass. I would have liked that
blazer if it wasnte for fuel pumps and brakes.

Ho-ly cow! That's crazy. Did you ever replace the gas tank or have it
cleaned of sediment? Fuel pumps are usually good for 60,000 on the very low
side, but more commonly, 100,000 miles. I can't blame your for not liking
that maintenance record, but I'd be looking deeper into the causes. That's
*not* typical.

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Harry Face
 
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Default Re: Why are GM fuel pumps so short lived? - 02-03-2006 , 05:13 PM






Frankie,

I went 250,000 miles and 13 years on my Bonneville's original fuel pump
when I had it replaced in 2003. It was still working at the time, but
replaced it anyway due to age & the fact it had just reached a 1/4
milllion miles.

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Steve W.
 
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Default Re: Why are GM fuel pumps so short lived? - 02-03-2006 , 05:43 PM




Where are you getting your pumps? Never seen them fail that fast unless
they are junk out of the box. Might be time to look at other issues,
like bad ground to the pump or low voltage, also do a flow rate test and
see if there is something else as a contributing factor.
--
Steve Williams

"dnoyeB" <Fake (AT) ThisOneIsFake (DOT) com> wrote

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Jonathan wrote:
Greetings,

This is not a Detroit-only or Big Three-only issue. Almost all of
the
vehicles I've seen built in the past several years have a
fuel-tank-mounted
fuel pump and even the asian cars and trucks suffer from the same
issues.
In fact, my wife's non-domestic SUV uses an in-tank fuel pump that
has an
integrated fuel filter that is non-replaceable (talk about cheap!),
but it's
waranted for 100k miles.

The units that have replaceable fuel filters I believe have a better
filtering ability, but that just emphasizes the need for regular
filter
changes. A combination of letting the filter go too long between
replacements and running the tank low will wear out any fuel pump
regardless
of maker.


My blazer has a replaceable fuel filter along the underside of vehicle
by driver door, as well as a filter at the pump assembly. It eats
fuel
pumps at least 1 every other year since 95. Lifetime warranty came in
handy, but install fee has kicked my ass. I would have liked that
blazer if it wasnte for fuel pumps and brakes.

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man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes
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The Adams Family
 
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Default Re: Why are GM fuel pumps so short lived? - 02-03-2006 , 08:15 PM



It is typical on a Blazer I had one too, and it went through fuel pumps like
crazy. Even with a clean tank!
"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote

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My blazer has a replaceable fuel filter along the underside of vehicle
by driver door, as well as a filter at the pump assembly. It eats fuel
pumps at least 1 every other year since 95. Lifetime warranty came in
handy, but install fee has kicked my ass. I would have liked that
blazer if it wasnte for fuel pumps and brakes.


Ho-ly cow! That's crazy. Did you ever replace the gas tank or have it
cleaned of sediment? Fuel pumps are usually good for 60,000 on the very
low
side, but more commonly, 100,000 miles. I can't blame your for not liking
that maintenance record, but I'd be looking deeper into the causes.
That's
*not* typical.

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GLitwinski
 
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Default Re: Why are GM fuel pumps so short lived? - 02-03-2006 , 08:26 PM



Uh, the one in my 2000 Yukon XL failed at 20,000 miles. Cost $400 to repair.
Shop that replaced it said they see lots of broken ones. GM has no business
putting such trash in a $40,000 truck.


"Repairman" <repairman54 (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote

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Because people don't change their fuel filters at the 30k interval like
they should.
Add running the tank down to fumes to the mix and voila.........
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Default Re: Why are GM fuel pumps so short lived? - 02-03-2006 , 08:52 PM



Message from Repairman written on 2/3/2006 7:26 AM:
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Because people don't change their fuel filters at the 30k interval like they
should.
Add running the tank down to fumes to the mix and voila.........
I can see the fuel filter causing strain on the pump, but low fuel
levels causing failure? I run for days on fumes. Been doing so for
decades. Haven't had fuel pump fail yet (knock on wood)!


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Jonathan
 
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Default Re: Why are GM fuel pumps so short lived? - 02-03-2006 , 11:31 PM




"Steve W." <Dugdug56 (AT) what (DOT) com> wrote

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Where are you getting your pumps? Never seen them fail that fast unless
they are junk out of the box. Might be time to look at other issues,
like bad ground to the pump or low voltage, also do a flow rate test and
see if there is something else as a contributing factor.
--
Steve Williams
I agree. A crimped or bent fuel line can act the same as a clogged filter
and may not be easily found. Only a flow rate test will tell you one way or
the other, but I would also check fuel pressure as well. A dirty ground is
also a possibility, or perhaps a dirty harness connector as well.

Cheers - Jonathan




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Repairman
 
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Default Re: Why are GM fuel pumps so short lived? - 02-04-2006 , 08:24 AM



Fuel cools and lubes the pump internally. Pump running dry on the curves and
turns, even for a split second, will shorten it's life.
Running out of gas is the worst for the pump.
"jcr" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote

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I can see the fuel filter causing strain on the pump, but low fuel levels
causing failure? I run for days on fumes. Been doing so for decades.
Haven't had fuel pump fail yet (knock on wood)!



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jcr
 
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Default Re: Why are GM fuel pumps so short lived? - 02-04-2006 , 11:31 AM



Message from Repairman written on 2/4/2006 8:24 AM:
Quote:
Fuel cools and lubes the pump internally. Pump running dry on the curves and
turns, even for a split second, will shorten it's life.
Running out of gas is the worst for the pump.
"jcr" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message
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I can see the fuel filter causing strain on the pump, but low fuel levels
causing failure? I run for days on fumes. Been doing so for decades.
Haven't had fuel pump fail yet (knock on wood)!


Guess I've been lucky for a very long time.


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Default Re: Why are GM fuel pumps so short lived? - 02-04-2006 , 02:05 PM




What engineer would spec a component
with such fragile operating characteristics ?

Who would approve it ?


On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 13:24:27 GMT, "Repairman" <repairman54 (AT) earthlink (DOT) net>
wrote:

Quote:
Fuel cools and lubes the pump internally. Pump running dry on the curves and
turns, even for a split second, will shorten it's life.
Running out of gas is the worst for the pump.
"jcr" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message
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