Dear Tuckus Leker:

That's over the whole family. Dad owned the 72 Carina, then had the 77
Corolla 22 years, until almost the day he died. The Carina we drove 36,000
miles a year. All of these mileages are total vehicle miles. Many of these
were USED when we bought them. My sister owns 2 of them. and there are two
drivers at her house. My sister-in-law has sort of taken over the Previa.

Case in point: The 93 we bought in the fall of 1994 with 27,000 miles on
it, and just retired it in January. It was my sister's first car, I bought
it off her after the Chevy S-10 fiasco in 1999 at 72,000 miles. For a while
I was driving it a minimum of 90 miles a day. That's how it ended up with
238,000 miles.

So kiss the mistletoe, I wear it on my belt loop the same place Mayor Dailey
used to wear his!

Charles of Schaumburg
"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote

If the price of fuel was really the only factor in ones buying decision,
Toyota would be selling more Corollas than Camrys and GM and Ford would not
be selling far more trucks than Toyotas sells Camrys. LOL

mike


"BoobooBear" <Boo (AT) yahaa (DOT) com> wrote

Dear Tuckus Leker:

I see you are doing the same thing to me that you're accusing me of doing.

You don't belive my experience at all.

You've earned a special spot on my blocked senders list, and I won't be
posting to the brainwashed GM group again.

I don't read posts from liberals, and people that call me a liar. Now go to
hell. Or to San Fag Cisco, which amounts to the same thing.

Charles of Schaumburg

PS I'm top posting this as a special favor to you so you can read it, since
you live in some sort of alternate reality where Toyotas rust and GM's
don't.

And I beat one of your GM mid 80 Chevy Caprice lead sleds with the 77
Corolla about a year before we drove it to the breaker's yard off the light
after the punk kids driving it started laughing at my dad's little old
Corolla. Actually we had some problem with rust after 21 years with that
car because it was repainted by an American after the deer hit it in 1990.
Still took 6 years to start rusting after that.

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote

Reminicent of the performance I got out of the Corvair, with the 80 hp
engine and Power-slide tranny. My S-10 in 1995 wasn't much better. My
sister's 95 Corolla could do LOTS better. Plus they put in 2-wheel ABS
which made stopping very tricky on slick roads. Typical General
Maintenance.

And the 93, when it was new, could get 39 mpg on the highway fairly
steadily. This new one finally hit 31 mpg the other day, doesn't have the
overdrive or the big engine.

I've had less trouble out of my 93 in the 7 years I drove it almost 150,000
miles than the S-10, 4 years and 50,000 miles.

Charles of Schaumburg

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote

I'm not exactly a big guy, and the current body iteration, which came out in
1995, I kept bumping my head on the back glass when I hit bumps cause I had
to drive with the seat that far back. I'm only 5-10.

Again, I could have bought the identical truck with the identical options
from GMC and had the privilege of paying 1,000 more for it. If they're
still running with the same engine sets they had in 1995, they're not very
good. They had the 2.2 4 that had a wierd torque curve. Then they had the
4.3 that only put out a measly 40 more horsepower than the 4 and weighed so
much more that the overall performace was actually WORSE. Then they had
some sort of boosted 4.3 that put out about another 40 horses, but you had
to pay almost twice as much for that one, since it only came in the extended
cab and with a lot of gegaws.

Typical stupid GM thinking. Lowball Toyota, but then require the buyer to
actually pay a lot more to get something decent and get a lot of things they
may not want.

Charles of Schaumburg

"Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958DieSpammersDie (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

If I were in the market for a Jeep, I'd want something more like the old
CJ-2's and 3's. Those things you couldn't kill.

Charles of Schaumburg

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote

Really. Bet Mr 80Knight owned a VW Beetle in his past, too.

The Brainwashed over in the GM forum don't get it. Why people bought Model
T's in the early 1920's, VW's in the 60's and started buying Toyotas in the
1970's is something GM and its cohorts will never understand. We celebrate
the absence of fancy options. WE DON'T WANT THEM. We want a basic
machine that will get up, go and keep going.

GM has always had a structure where you often had to get certain options
packages to get stuff you wanted, but you got stuff you didn't want, too.
For instance, when I bought my S-10 in 1995, I wanted a 5 speed, so I had to
get the 2.2 engine and the short cab. Had I wanted the 4.3 engine, I would
have had to get the longer cab and an auto tranny, which added so much
weight that the performance was actually worse than my little 2.2. And in
order to get the 4.3 that actually had any get up and go, I would have had
to pay over 20,000, when the base S-10 with the 5 speed actually cost just
over 10,000. We had similar problems trying to buy a new Chevy in 1973, so
GM is still practicing its same old tricks.

Charles of Schaumburg

Charles,

All the picture books I got that have 66 Chevelle SS's in them do not
show them with "SS" badges on the sides of the vehicle. The crossed flag
badge is on the tip of the front fender. These is a Super Sport script
on the rear quarter panels and an SS badge on the grille.

I don't doubt a 4 door Chevelle could of been ordered with a 396 V8. But
Chevy didn't build an SS 4 door to sell to the general public. Some
Chicagoland dealers in the 60's did modifications to cars to lure people
into buying them. Grand Spaulding Dodge was one of them. They would take
a Dart GTS stuff a 440 V8 in it and put GSS badges on it In reference to
Grand Spaulding Special.

An Olds dealer near me put stripes & decals on Cutlass's the last year
of the RWD coupe and put JTO badges on the front fenders...ooo! Look at
that.. Whats a JTO Cutlass? JTO were the dealer initial's. haha very
funny.

Perhaps your 4 door SS was a dealership special? Back in 1982 A kid on
our street had the only 1973 Impala SS 4-door , thanks in parts to the
mirrored finish letters he bought at the auto part store.

Also your reference to Mayor Dailey was wrong - its Daley.

Sounds like your family got high miles out of their Toyota's. A Jewsih
lawyer I know had many Corolla's. A 92 had 253,000 when the transmission
died on a trip to Allentown, PA. He had it towed in. They quoted
$2600.00 to repair it, he declined to pay that much money due to the
high mileage but instead bought a new 2001 Corolla on the spot then
droveit back to Chicago. The 01 he traded in in 2006 with 155,000 miles
for a 2006 Corolla.

Happy Motoring


harryface
05 Park Avenue 55,546
91 Bonneville 309,620

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote

nothing but problems. She got fed up with it and sold it to her mechanic
with less than 80k miles on it. God knows I am not a marketer for GM or
other US autos, but my experiences as well as other family members have had
no problems with the products. I have owned several chrysler, 1 ford and 1
GM.

"n5hsr" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote