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Why Toyota is kicking GM's ass
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Re: Why Toyota is kicking GM's ass -
05-20-2007
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"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" <DwightSchrute (AT) DunderMifflin (DOT) com> wrote in message news:vv31539tkecfrqglv18vuch3eh20bugn0u (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Sun, 20 May 2007 11:04:12 -0500, "n5hsr" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: In 1966 Chevelle made a 4-door vehicle. Check it out: http://www.chevelles.com/wagons/4-doors.html =8^0 Ooops! The one I was talking about was a 4 door sedan, in metalic mint green, the same color as the cars in My Cousin Vinnie. Missouri license plates, registered in Sedalia. I still have the 1975 plates. Charles of Schaumburg |
According to this:
<http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z7045/default.aspx>
"Chevrolet was catching up in the horsepower battle. In 1966, the 283
and 327 cubic-inch engines were no longer being offered. Rather, the
396 became the standard engine with the horsepower outputting between
325 to 375 depending on the configuration. The greater the horsepower
the vehicles received, the greater the need to modify the other
components of the vehicle. All Chevelles were outfitted with stiffer
springs and shocks to counter handling problems."
It wasn't an SS, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a 396.
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Once again I say BS! Nobody will 'give you your car back' after you traded it. All taxes, transfer fees, commissions. insurance coverage costs etc., must be paid on every transaction or the dealership is committing fraud. mike "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message news:VB93i.7553$vu2.5005 (AT) trndny01 (DOT) .. On Thu, 17 May 2007 18:43:55 -0400, Mike Hunter wrote: BS! Nobody will 'give you your car back' after you traded it. mike In 50 years, we bought over a dozen cars from them. Yeah, they gave me the car back. And then sold me, personally 4 more. "Vash The Stampede" <Trigun (AT) 2AM (DOT) cn> wrote in message news:Ey43i.6698$R97.4409 (AT) trndny03 (DOT) .. On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:21:33 +0000, 6forPizza wrote: I kept the Nova for 5 or six weeks, and when gas hit $0.75 a gallon, I traded it back! Luckily, they went for it and gave me my Corolla back! A good dealer will take a hit for a good customer. There just isn't |
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Well, as of right now, Toyota/Lexus is kicking everyones ass and making billions. People want cars that last now. They want a car they can hand down to their son or daughter when they purchase a new one. They want something stylish, classy, affordable. Something that gets decent gas mileage. Something that, if it breaks, it is easier and cheaper to fix. gee, sounds like my Town Car. |
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 20:16:05 -0500, n5hsr wrote: Remember, Hachi, I bought most of these vehicles USED and the mileage is the last mileage on the odometer when we sold it. And there were at one time 5 people driving Toyotas in our extended family. Right now there are 4. Charles of Schaumburg And I bought most of mine new with 8-12 miles. When I say I've gone about 1,000,000 miles, I *MEAN* I've gone 1,000,000 miles!!!  |
Charles of Schaumburg
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Dear Tuckus Leker: I see you are doing the same thing to me that you're accusing me of doing. You don't belive my experience at all. |
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You've earned a special spot on my blocked senders list, and I won't be posting to the brainwashed GM group again. |
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"80 Knight" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message > At least that outta save time! Seriously though, I remember when my sister leased her last Grand Am, before she bought the one she has now. They offered us an electronic rust protection module, for around $300 (if memory serves), which we declined at the time, thinking it was brand new technology, which was unproven, and made no sense (at least, according to the not-so-informed salesperson). Then, last year, our Canadian Tire (equivalent to USA's AutoZone, from what I hear) starts selling them at $199 like hot-cakes. Had any experience with these? No direct experience with these, Knight, but I have experience in 'cathodic protection' which is the same principle applied to industrial structures, tanks, etc. The technology works only where there is uniform contact with the electrolyte involved... Just being wet doesnt mean the surface will be exposed to the protective current. IMO, they have a basis in truth, but I dont believe they would be effective in many places that are susceptible to corrosion. |
ever had one, but I have heard it is the same unit they put on the
snow-plows up here, and I have never seen a snow plow with rust on it. ;-)
Still, IMHO, rust proofing is the way to go.
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"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message news:BRY3i.4454$ns.537 (AT) trndny05 (DOT) .. On Sat, 19 May 2007 15:44:00 -0400, BoobooBear wrote: HLS (AT) nospam (DOT) nix> wrote in message news:quC3i.21236$YL5.7526 (AT) newssvr29 (DOT) news.prodigy.net... "80 Knight" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message The Japanese attacking us apparently doesn't mean much to some either. Are you talking about the successful economics of modern day Japan, or their day of infamy in 1941? We gave them a heck of a defeat back then. It wasnt brag, just fact. If we want to win economically, it will again have to be no brag, just fact. Well it looks like another war is on, all traitors will be rewarded with a brand new Toyota. Where do I sign up? Really. Bet Mr 80Knight owned a VW Beetle in his past, too. |
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The Brainwashed over in the GM forum don't get it. Why people bought Model T's in the early 1920's, VW's in the 60's and started buying Toyotas in the 1970's is something GM and its cohorts will never understand. We celebrate the absence of fancy options. WE DON'T WANT THEM. We want a basic machine that will get up, go and keep going. |
I can understand you having problems trying to figure out such complex
options as power windows and locks. Don't get those power mirrors, they are
a real bitch to work!
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GM has always had a structure where you often had to get certain options packages to get stuff you wanted, but you got stuff you didn't want, too. For instance, when I bought my S-10 in 1995, I wanted a 5 speed, so I had to get the 2.2 engine and the short cab. Had I wanted the 4.3 engine, I would have had to get the longer cab and an auto tranny, which added so much weight that the performance was actually worse than my little 2.2. And in order to get the 4.3 that actually had any get up and go, I would have had to pay over 20,000, when the base S-10 with the 5 speed actually cost just over 10,000. We had similar problems trying to buy a new Chevy in 1973, so GM is still practicing its same old tricks. |
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 02:58:43 -0400, 80 Knight wrote: | 'better'? To some people, just having the word "Toyota" on the front grill | means the car is wonderful, regardless of how often it breaks down. | Nope - I'd love to drive an American car again. I really would like to see them rebound. Me too, Natalie, me too. Sorry, guys. I am more than happy with my Toyotas. After 10-12 of them, it's tough to even consider anything else. Even the $200 beaters have been bulletproof, with 'repairs' cheap and easy. |
would GM going under help you to own a Toyota?
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"80 Knight" ... |
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| > Okies! How are ya? | | I'm doing alright these days, thanks for asking.  How have you been| doing? | | Pretty good. The kids are really different from our old NG days. Craig will be 20 in November, Katie will be 17 in July. Time flies, huh? |
April...Hard to believe, very hard. They grow up so fast. She keeps saying
"I'm going to stop aging when I hit 25", and we all look at her and remind
her she's only 14 and shouldn't be thinking of such things! But, she's a
damned good kid, and I couldn't be prouder of her.
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I haven't been on the geek NGs in quite some time. The trolls took over, and I lost interest in talking about the shows, so... |
the BSG NG every once in a while, just to see who's bitching about what, but
thats about it.
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I just hang out on this NG and watch the car talk in-between the political rhetoric LOL |
but, like any group, the Trolls show up every now and then. But, that's
Usenet for ya!
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Natalie |
was, so feel free to drop me a line anytime :-)
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