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I have a 1990 honda crx dx 1.5 auto The car is stock with no modifications I have done a lot trying to get it to run so I will list all I can. The car died on me while driving it ... sputtered to a stop. After putting a new coil in it I did get it to start for about 2 minutes running really rough I am not sure if I fried the new coil but it will not restart. |
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CrxChicken (AT) anonamoo (DOT) com> wrote in news:hbu14s$21fs$1 (AT) news (DOT) telesweet.net: I have a 1990 honda crx dx 1.5 auto The car is stock with no modifications I have done a lot trying to get it to run so I will list all I can. The car died on me while driving it ... sputtered to a stop. After putting a new coil in it I did get it to start for about 2 minutes running really rough I am not sure if I fried the new coil but it will not restart. When you crank and the engine will not start, does the tach needle jiggle ever so slightly, or is it dead-still? -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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"Tegger" <invalid (AT) invalid (DOT) inv> wrote in message news:Xns9CAE567D5F92tegger (AT) 208 (DOT) 90.168.18... CrxChicken (AT) anonamoo (DOT) com> wrote in news:hbu14s$21fs$1 (AT) news (DOT) telesweet.net: I have a 1990 honda crx dx 1.5 auto The car is stock with no modifications I have done a lot trying to get it to run so I will list all I can. The car died on me while driving it ... sputtered to a stop. After putting a new coil in it I did get it to start for about 2 minutes running really rough I am not sure if I fried the new coil but it will not restart. When you crank and the engine will not start, does the tach needle jiggle ever so slightly, or is it dead-still? When I turn the ignition to On the tach goes to 500 rpm When the engine is cranking I don't see any real movement Ignitor is new |
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I have a 1990 honda crx dx 1.5 auto The car is stock with no modifications I have done a lot trying to get it to run so I will list all I can. The car died on me while driving it ... sputtered to a stop. After putting a new coil in it I did get it to start for about 2 minutes running really rough I am not sure if I fried the new coil but it will not restart. And aftermarket, I'll bet. I'll also bet your new igniter is bad. When cranking you don't see any "real" movement of the needle, or you don't see **ANY** movement? Does the tach drop to 0 when you start to crank? Please be precise. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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"Tegger" wrote: I'll also bet your new igniter is bad. When cranking you don't see any "real" movement of the needle, or you don't see **ANY** movement? Does the tach drop to 0 when you start to crank? Just went out and tried starting it RPM guage goes to just over 500 with key on stays there while cranking Think the cam position sensor is bad? |
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ALSO the other day just before i put the Coil in I had the Main Relay out to test it It tested ok with battery voltage but do you think it could be an intermitant failure? |
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I get no spark but do get fuel Think direct battery voltage to it or bumping it may have got it to work once and then fail again? Does the main relay give a signal to the ecu -> then ecu to the ignitor to tell it to fire? |
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also i put the heat sink jell between the ignitor and the small metal part that it attaches (Heatsink i guess) to did i need to put any between the metal part and the distributor housing? |
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Yes its a aftermarket borgwarner ignitor I believe i replaced it for no good reason and the old one was good but i dont know |
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"Tegger" wrote: No. The igniter has failed and was likely defective out-of-the-box, which is common for aftermarket garbage. The tach gets its signal from the igniter's blue wire. That wire gets a pulse every time the igniter produces a coil-trigger signal. If your tach gets stuck at 500, then the igniter is putting out spurious signals. Go to a wrecking yard and pick up an OEM igniter for much cheaper than your crappy aftermarket one. |
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"Tegger" wrote: No. The igniter has failed and was likely defective out-of-the-box, which is common for aftermarket garbage. The tach gets its signal from the igniter's blue wire. That wire gets a pulse every time the igniter produces a coil-trigger signal. If your tach gets stuck at 500, then the igniter is putting out spurious signals. Go to a wrecking yard and pick up an OEM igniter for much cheaper than your crappy aftermarket one. Ok thats kinda hard to believe but you seem to know about these things have been reading your howtos |
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Is there a way I can bench test the igniter? |
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Is there something that would burn out an ignitor that i should check for? |
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There is really no good junkyards here most places just send cars off to be crushed but maybe i can find something... Could a parts place or dealer test it. I got a dealer about 40 miles away I could probably scam a ride down there but the closest decent junkyard is well over 100 |
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THEN PUT YOUR OLD IGNITER BACK IN AS A TEST. Or did you toss it already? -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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CrxChicken (AT) anonamoo (DOT) com> wrote in news:hbvggm$e00$1 (AT) news (DOT) telesweet.net: "Tegger" wrote: I'll also bet your new igniter is bad. When cranking you don't see any "real" movement of the needle, or you don't see **ANY** movement? Does the tach drop to 0 when you start to crank? Just went out and tried starting it RPM guage goes to just over 500 with key on stays there while cranking Think the cam position sensor is bad? No. The igniter has failed and was likely defective out-of-the-box, which is common for aftermarket garbage. The tach gets its signal from the igniter's blue wire. That wire gets a pulse every time the igniter produces a coil-trigger signal. If your tach gets stuck at 500, then the igniter is putting out spurious signals. Go to a wrecking yard and pick up an OEM igniter for much cheaper than your crappy aftermarket one. |
| ALSO the other day just before i put the Coil in I had the Main Relay out to test it It tested ok with battery voltage but do you think it could be an intermitant failure? Not in this case. The tach's behavior is the giveaway here. I get no spark but do get fuel Think direct battery voltage to it or bumping it may have got it to work once and then fail again? Does the main relay give a signal to the ecu -> then ecu to the ignitor to tell it to fire? No. The igniter is totally separate from the Main Relay. In your car, fuel delivery is totally separate from ignition. also i put the heat sink jell between the ignitor and the small metal part that it attaches (Heatsink i guess) to did i need to put any between the metal part and the distributor housing? You put heat-sink compound under the igniter before bolting it in place. Yes its a aftermarket borgwarner ignitor I believe i replaced it for no good reason and the old one was good but i dont know If you still have the old igniter, then put it back in as an experiment. -- |
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