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2003 EX V6 Transmission concerns -
01-02-2005
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Hello All Hoping to get some opinions on something that troubles me about my car's behavior . It's a 2003 Accord EX V6 Automatic. It's been through the transmission recall repair on the 2nd gear on 12/11/04 (reason for recall - the gear didn't get enough lubrication and was prone to breakage and seizing) where they installed an oil jet kit to provide extra lubrication for the 2nd gear. Driving in usual 'light to light' suburban traffic, I started noticing a rather jerky shift from 1st to 2nd. Usually it happens when I am stuck behind somebody in traffic, and can't rapidly accelerate, so this specific shift occurs around 2,000 RPMs. Seems like my not applying more gas, creates an 'unclean' shift that causes the car to kinda jerk and leap forward a bit as shifting occurs. When I am able to accelerate more rapidly, shifting is smoother. I also noticed that this is more symptomatic in cold weather when the car has been sitting out for a while. If the car ran for a while and is warmed up, it doesn't seem to happen. Level of transmission fluid is as it should be. I don't remember this being the case when I originally got this car almost 2 yrs ago. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised by how smooth the shifting was compared to my 1995 Accord LX V6 which I replaced with the car in question. It had 17k miles on it at the time of recall repair and when I asked the service advisor if required inspection of the gear revealed any damage, he didn't answer my question directly, but rather said it's only a problem on cars with 70-80k miles and with mine it's more of a preventive measure. Maybe it's my perception, but I think the jerky shift began after the recall work. Chicago's cold temperature also seems to be a factor, but I am fairly certain it hasn't happened in previous 2 winters. Before I go back to the dealer and ask them to check it out, I wanted to get some feedback from the experts in the group and see if anyone noticed anything similar or can give me some advice on what to try or what to arm myself with against what dealer might call 'normal' behavior. Any feedback is much appreciated. Thank you, Sergey |
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My '01 TL behaved like that until the transmission failed with a burned clutch pack at 48,000 kms (30K miles). Wasn't your warranty extended to 7 years or 100K miles? "Sergey" <aaa (AT) bbb (DOT) com> wrote in message news bsGdnVFKdJ83NUrcRVn-tA (AT) comcast (DOT) com... Hello All Hoping to get some opinions on something that troubles me about my car's behavior . It's a 2003 Accord EX V6 Automatic. It's been through the transmission recall repair on the 2nd gear on 12/11/04 (reason for recall - the gear didn't get enough lubrication and was prone to breakage and seizing) where they installed an oil jet kit to provide extra lubrication for the 2nd gear. Driving in usual 'light to light' suburban traffic, I started noticing a rather jerky shift from 1st to 2nd. Usually it happens when I am stuck behind somebody in traffic, and can't rapidly accelerate, so this specific shift occurs around 2,000 RPMs. Seems like my not applying more gas, creates an 'unclean' shift that causes the car to kinda jerk and leap forward a bit as shifting occurs. When I am able to accelerate more rapidly, shifting is smoother. I also noticed that this is more symptomatic in cold weather when the car has been sitting out for a while. If the car ran for a while and is warmed up, it doesn't seem to happen. Level of transmission fluid is as it should be. I don't remember this being the case when I originally got this car almost 2 yrs ago. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised by how smooth the shifting was compared to my 1995 Accord LX V6 which I replaced with the car in question. It had 17k miles on it at the time of recall repair and when I asked the service advisor if required inspection of the gear revealed any damage, he didn't answer my question directly, but rather said it's only a problem on cars with 70-80k miles and with mine it's more of a preventive measure. Maybe it's my perception, but I think the jerky shift began after the recall work. Chicago's cold temperature also seems to be a factor, but I am fairly certain it hasn't happened in previous 2 winters. Before I go back to the dealer and ask them to check it out, I wanted to get some feedback from the experts in the group and see if anyone noticed anything similar or can give me some advice on what to try or what to arm myself with against what dealer might call 'normal' behavior. Any feedback is much appreciated. Thank you, Sergey |
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Hello All Hoping to get some opinions on something that troubles me about my car's behavior . It's a 2003 Accord EX V6 Automatic. It's been through the transmission recall repair on the 2nd gear on 12/11/04 (reason for recall - the gear didn't get enough lubrication and was prone to breakage and seizing) where they installed an oil jet kit to provide extra lubrication for the 2nd gear. Driving in usual 'light to light' suburban traffic, I started noticing a rather jerky shift from 1st to 2nd. Usually it happens when I am stuck behind somebody in traffic, and can't rapidly accelerate, so this specific shift occurs around 2,000 RPMs. Seems like my not applying more gas, creates an 'unclean' shift that causes the car to kinda jerk and leap forward a bit as shifting occurs. When I am able to accelerate more rapidly, shifting is smoother. I also noticed that this is more symptomatic in cold weather when the car has been sitting out for a while. If the car ran for a while and is warmed up, it doesn't seem to happen. Level of transmission fluid is as it should be. I don't remember this being the case when I originally got this car almost 2 yrs ago. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised by how smooth the shifting was compared to my 1995 Accord LX V6 which I replaced with the car in question. It had 17k miles on it at the time of recall repair and when I asked the service advisor if required inspection of the gear revealed any damage, he didn't answer my question directly, but rather said it's only a problem on cars with 70-80k miles and with mine it's more of a preventive measure. Maybe it's my perception, but I think the jerky shift began after the recall work. Chicago's cold temperature also seems to be a factor, but I am fairly certain it hasn't happened in previous 2 winters. Before I go back to the dealer and ask them to check it out, I wanted to get some feedback from the experts in the group and see if anyone noticed anything similar or can give me some advice on what to try or what to arm myself with against what dealer might call 'normal' behavior. Any feedback is much appreciated. Thank you, Sergey |
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Ghislain: not that I am aware of. That would be nice though. And sorry, I meant to say the recall work was done on 11/11/2004. Sergey "Ghislain" <ghislaing@teksavvyDOTcom> wrote in message news:41d80715$1_1 (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1... My '01 TL behaved like that until the transmission failed with a burned clutch pack at 48,000 kms (30K miles). Wasn't your warranty extended to 7 years or 100K miles? "Sergey" <aaa (AT) bbb (DOT) com> wrote in message news bsGdnVFKdJ83NUrcRVn-tA (AT) comcast (DOT) com... Hello All Hoping to get some opinions on something that troubles me about my car's behavior . It's a 2003 Accord EX V6 Automatic. It's been through the transmission recall repair on the 2nd gear on 12/11/04 (reason for recall - the gear didn't get enough lubrication and was prone to breakage and seizing) where they installed an oil jet kit to provide extra lubrication for the 2nd gear. Driving in usual 'light to light' suburban traffic, I started noticing a rather jerky shift from 1st to 2nd. Usually it happens when I am stuck behind somebody in traffic, and can't rapidly accelerate, so this specific shift occurs around 2,000 RPMs. Seems like my not applying more gas, creates an 'unclean' shift that causes the car to kinda jerk and leap forward a bit as shifting occurs. When I am able to accelerate more rapidly, shifting is smoother. I also noticed that this is more symptomatic in cold weather when the car has been sitting out for a while. If the car ran for a while and is warmed up, it doesn't seem to happen. Level of transmission fluid is as it should be. I don't remember this being the case when I originally got this car almost 2 yrs ago. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised by how smooth the shifting was compared to my 1995 Accord LX V6 which I replaced with the car in question. It had 17k miles on it at the time of recall repair and when I asked the service advisor if required inspection of the gear revealed any damage, he didn't answer my question directly, but rather said it's only a problem on cars with 70-80k miles and with mine it's more of a preventive measure. Maybe it's my perception, but I think the jerky shift began after the recall work. Chicago's cold temperature also seems to be a factor, but I am fairly certain it hasn't happened in previous 2 winters. Before I go back to the dealer and ask them to check it out, I wanted to get some feedback from the experts in the group and see if anyone noticed anything similar or can give me some advice on what to try or what to arm myself with against what dealer might call 'normal' behavior. Any feedback is much appreciated. Thank you, Sergey |
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Have you checked with Honda? Ghislain "Sergey" <aaa (AT) bbb (DOT) com> wrote in message news cqKdnVfiF9wSo0XcRVn-pQ (AT) comcast (DOT) com... Ghislain: not that I am aware of. That would be nice though. And sorry, I meant to say the recall work was done on 11/11/2004. Sergey "Ghislain" <ghislaing@teksavvyDOTcom> wrote in message news:41d80715$1_1 (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1... My '01 TL behaved like that until the transmission failed with a burned clutch pack at 48,000 kms (30K miles). Wasn't your warranty extended to 7 years or 100K miles? "Sergey" <aaa (AT) bbb (DOT) com> wrote in message news bsGdnVFKdJ83NUrcRVn-tA (AT) comcast (DOT) com... Hello All Hoping to get some opinions on something that troubles me about my car's behavior . It's a 2003 Accord EX V6 Automatic. It's been through the transmission recall repair on the 2nd gear on 12/11/04 (reason for recall - the gear didn't get enough lubrication and was prone to breakage and seizing) where they installed an oil jet kit to provide extra lubrication for the 2nd gear. Driving in usual 'light to light' suburban traffic, I started noticing a rather jerky shift from 1st to 2nd. Usually it happens when I am stuck behind somebody in traffic, and can't rapidly accelerate, so this specific shift occurs around 2,000 RPMs. Seems like my not applying more gas, creates an 'unclean' shift that causes the car to kinda jerk and leap forward a bit as shifting occurs. When I am able to accelerate more rapidly, shifting is smoother. I also noticed that this is more symptomatic in cold weather when the car has been sitting out for a while. If the car ran for a while and is warmed up, it doesn't seem to happen. Level of transmission fluid is as it should be. I don't remember this being the case when I originally got this car almost 2 yrs ago. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised by how smooth the shifting was compared to my 1995 Accord LX V6 which I replaced with the car in question. It had 17k miles on it at the time of recall repair and when I asked the service advisor if required inspection of the gear revealed any damage, he didn't answer my question directly, but rather said it's only a problem on cars with 70-80k miles and with mine it's more of a preventive measure. Maybe it's my perception, but I think the jerky shift began after the recall work. Chicago's cold temperature also seems to be a factor, but I am fairly certain it hasn't happened in previous 2 winters. Before I go back to the dealer and ask them to check it out, I wanted to get some feedback from the experts in the group and see if anyone noticed anything similar or can give me some advice on what to try or what to arm myself with against what dealer might call 'normal' behavior. Any feedback is much appreciated. Thank you, Sergey |
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My wife's low mileage (18,000 at time of recall) '03 V-6 displays the exact symptoms you describe after the recall work. Before that I thought this was an amazingly smooth transmission. Not any more. A co-worker hasn't taken his in for the recall because of the experience with my wife's. We need to take it back to the dealer, but the inconvenience of doing so has caused us to procrastinate. Tom T. "Sergey" <aaa (AT) bbb (DOT) com> wrote in message news:bsGdnVFKdJ83NUrcRVn-tA (AT) comcast (DOT) com... Hello All Hoping to get some opinions on something that troubles me about my car's behavior . It's a 2003 Accord EX V6 Automatic. It's been through the transmission recall repair on the 2nd gear on 12/11/04 (reason for recall - the gear didn't get enough lubrication and was prone to breakage and seizing) where they installed an oil jet kit to provide extra lubrication for the 2nd gear. Driving in usual 'light to light' suburban traffic, I started noticing a rather jerky shift from 1st to 2nd. Usually it happens when I am stuck behind somebody in traffic, and can't rapidly accelerate, so this specific shift occurs around 2,000 RPMs. Seems like my not applying more gas, creates an 'unclean' shift that causes the car to kinda jerk and leap forward a bit as shifting occurs. When I am able to accelerate more rapidly, shifting is smoother. I also noticed that this is more symptomatic in cold weather when the car has been sitting out for a while. If the car ran for a while and is warmed up, it doesn't seem to happen. Level of transmission fluid is as it should be. I don't remember this being the case when I originally got this car almost 2 yrs ago. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised by how smooth the shifting was compared to my 1995 Accord LX V6 which I replaced with the car in question. It had 17k miles on it at the time of recall repair and when I asked the service advisor if required inspection of the gear revealed any damage, he didn't answer my question directly, but rather said it's only a problem on cars with 70-80k miles and with mine it's more of a preventive measure. Maybe it's my perception, but I think the jerky shift began after the recall work. Chicago's cold temperature also seems to be a factor, but I am fairly certain it hasn't happened in previous 2 winters. Before I go back to the dealer and ask them to check it out, I wanted to get some feedback from the experts in the group and see if anyone noticed anything similar or can give me some advice on what to try or what to arm myself with against what dealer might call 'normal' behavior. Any feedback is much appreciated. Thank you, Sergey |
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My '00 TL also started doing this after the 2nd gear recall work. Resetting the transmission computer smoothed it back out. Look for a 7.5 amp fuse labeled "backup" and pull it for 10 seconds. It clears the learned behavior from the computer and it starts fresh. On the '00 TL the fuse is in the passenger side in-car fuse block. On some other models it is in the under-hood fuse block. I don't know where you will find it on the '03, but it won't hurt anything to give it a try. rtolman (AT) woh (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message news:uO1Cd.919$gb3.487 (AT) fe1 (DOT) columbus.rr.com... My wife's low mileage (18,000 at time of recall) '03 V-6 displays the exact symptoms you describe after the recall work. Before that I thought this was an amazingly smooth transmission. Not any more. A co-worker hasn't taken his in for the recall because of the experience with my wife's. We need to take it back to the dealer, but the inconvenience of doing so has caused us to procrastinate. Tom T. "Sergey" <aaa (AT) bbb (DOT) com> wrote in message news:bsGdnVFKdJ83NUrcRVn-tA (AT) comcast (DOT) com... Hello All Hoping to get some opinions on something that troubles me about my car's behavior . It's a 2003 Accord EX V6 Automatic. It's been through the transmission recall repair on the 2nd gear on 12/11/04 (reason for recall - the gear didn't get enough lubrication and was prone to breakage and seizing) where they installed an oil jet kit to provide extra lubrication for the 2nd gear. Driving in usual 'light to light' suburban traffic, I started noticing a rather jerky shift from 1st to 2nd. Usually it happens when I am stuck behind somebody in traffic, and can't rapidly accelerate, so this specific shift occurs around 2,000 RPMs. Seems like my not applying more gas, creates an 'unclean' shift that causes the car to kinda jerk and leap forward a bit as shifting occurs. When I am able to accelerate more rapidly, shifting is smoother. I also noticed that this is more symptomatic in cold weather when the car has been sitting out for a while. If the car ran for a while and is warmed up, it doesn't seem to happen. Level of transmission fluid is as it should be. I don't remember this being the case when I originally got this car almost 2 yrs ago. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised by how smooth the shifting was compared to my 1995 Accord LX V6 which I replaced with the car in question. It had 17k miles on it at the time of recall repair and when I asked the service advisor if required inspection of the gear revealed any damage, he didn't answer my question directly, but rather said it's only a problem on cars with 70-80k miles and with mine it's more of a preventive measure. Maybe it's my perception, but I think the jerky shift began after the recall work. Chicago's cold temperature also seems to be a factor, but I am fairly certain it hasn't happened in previous 2 winters. Before I go back to the dealer and ask them to check it out, I wanted to get some feedback from the experts in the group and see if anyone noticed anything similar or can give me some advice on what to try or what to arm myself with against what dealer might call 'normal' behavior. Any feedback is much appreciated. Thank you, Sergey |
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Interesting idea. Thanks! Though before I do that, any clue what else will be "forgotten" with removal and placing back of that fuse? Sergey "E. Meyer" <e54.meyer (AT) ieee (DOT) org> wrote in message news:Co-dnaAHDvK2gUHcRVn-gA (AT) comcast (DOT) com... My '00 TL also started doing this after the 2nd gear recall work. Resetting the transmission computer smoothed it back out. Look for a 7.5 amp fuse labeled "backup" and pull it for 10 seconds. It clears the learned behavior from the computer and it starts fresh. On the '00 TL the fuse is in the passenger side in-car fuse block. On some other models it is in the under-hood fuse block. I don't know where you will find it on the '03, but it won't hurt anything to give it a try. rtolman (AT) woh (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message news:uO1Cd.919$gb3.487 (AT) fe1 (DOT) columbus.rr.com... My wife's low mileage (18,000 at time of recall) '03 V-6 displays the exact symptoms you describe after the recall work. Before that I thought this was an amazingly smooth transmission. Not any more. A co-worker hasn't taken his in for the recall because of the experience with my wife's. We need to take it back to the dealer, but the inconvenience of doing so has caused us to procrastinate. Tom T. "Sergey" <aaa (AT) bbb (DOT) com> wrote in message news:bsGdnVFKdJ83NUrcRVn-tA (AT) comcast (DOT) com... Hello All Hoping to get some opinions on something that troubles me about my car's behavior . It's a 2003 Accord EX V6 Automatic. It's been through the transmission recall repair on the 2nd gear on 12/11/04 (reason for recall - the gear didn't get enough lubrication and was prone to breakage and seizing) where they installed an oil jet kit to provide extra lubrication for the 2nd gear. Driving in usual 'light to light' suburban traffic, I started noticing a rather jerky shift from 1st to 2nd. Usually it happens when I am stuck behind somebody in traffic, and can't rapidly accelerate, so this specific shift occurs around 2,000 RPMs. Seems like my not applying more gas, creates an 'unclean' shift that causes the car to kinda jerk and leap forward a bit as shifting occurs. When I am able to accelerate more rapidly, shifting is smoother. I also noticed that this is more symptomatic in cold weather when the car has been sitting out for a while. If the car ran for a while and is warmed up, it doesn't seem to happen. Level of transmission fluid is as it should be. I don't remember this being the case when I originally got this car almost 2 yrs ago. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised by how smooth the shifting was compared to my 1995 Accord LX V6 which I replaced with the car in question. It had 17k miles on it at the time of recall repair and when I asked the service advisor if required inspection of the gear revealed any damage, he didn't answer my question directly, but rather said it's only a problem on cars with 70-80k miles and with mine it's more of a preventive measure. Maybe it's my perception, but I think the jerky shift began after the recall work. Chicago's cold temperature also seems to be a factor, but I am fairly certain it hasn't happened in previous 2 winters. Before I go back to the dealer and ask them to check it out, I wanted to get some feedback from the experts in the group and see if anyone noticed anything similar or can give me some advice on what to try or what to arm myself with against what dealer might call 'normal' behavior. Any feedback is much appreciated. Thank you, Sergey |
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