We purchased our Honda Civic this past January. We had the dealer do
a 1,000 mile check, and we have brought it in to Jiffy Lube for oil
and filter changes and fluid checks. I cannot figure out what the
regular maintenance schedule should be. I used to bring our old 1998
Civic in to the dealer for pre-winter and post-winter routine
maintenance. Should I still be doing this, or do I just wait for a
warning light to flash?



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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

Especially for going to Jiffy Lube for that matter.

There is no 1,000 mile check for an '06 Civic. The computer tells you
when the car needs maintenance. I just brought mine in for its first
oil change at 7,800 miles and 7 months.

Keep your Honda AWAY from lube places, unless you really dislike the car
and want a reason to get rid of it.

oakparker wrote:

Interesting replys.

1. Why are people so upset with Jiffy Lube and the other lube places?

2. I have read the manual and cannot figure out what the maintenance
schedule is. In the old days there was a schedule that had a grid
indicating what maintenance needed to be performed at various milles.
Where in the 2006 manual is the new grid?



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oakparker wrote:

Those places tend to use the wrong fluids (e.g. generic instead of
manufacturer-specific) and overcharge for their services. In fact, there
was a news story recently about some of these places charging for services
that were never even performed.

"oakparker" <sholomg (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

the oil, but there is a real risk they will do some nasty damage.
Cross-threaded oil plugs are legion with the Quickie-lube shops and
replacing the oil pan to fix that will set you back a couple hundred
dollars. I don't know if anybody has succeeded in getting the JL places to
pay for that. More rarely they will put the entirely wrong fluids in or fail
to put oil in the crankcase at all. Those cases often show up on the TV news
"consumer advocate" spots. There have also been lots of complaints about
shops that claim to change the filter but clearly don't.

Personally, I do my own work and keep cars long past the point they have any
trade-in value. But if you expect to trade the car in when it is still new
enough to have value, you may find yourself many dollars ahead to have the
dealership or your regular mechanic change the oil and routine maintenance.
Verifiable service records are a crucial part of the difference between a
car that is in "good" condition and one that is in "excellent" condition,
and that can mean a thousand dollars or more in Blue Book value. Beyond
that, establishing a relationship with a shop before major trouble comes
along can pay off in many ways. Also, if they *do* cross-thread the drain
plug you can be sure they will make good on it without being asked. Shops
protect their business a whole lot more than fast lube places do.

Although... a bunch of years ago I heard about a place (in redneckland IIRC)
that offered topless oil changes (yes - women doing the work topless). It
was called "Boob and Lube." Kind of a specialty thing, I guess. Dunno how
that would look in the old service record.

Mike

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop (AT) nastydesigns (DOT) com> wrote in news:elmop-
F4CA0E.18340223092006 (AT) nntp1 (DOT) usenetserver.com:

I can be lenient with noobs on almost any subject, except this one. You
don't know to read the manual? The salesman should have gone over the
maintenance stuff at delivery.

High Tech Misfit <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in
news:1hd2k9ld2xsch$.dlg (AT) hightech (DOT) misfit:

"Manufacturer-specific fluids"...what are those again?

Gee, an auto service business overcharging/ripping off the customer?

"oakparker" <sholomg (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

15% oil life you get an indication of the service needed which is
cross-referenced in the manual. The "maintenance minder" apparently will
keep bugging you as your "oil life" decreases. In the end, it would seem
that you should have had a service done arounf 7500 miles. In my Accord, I
am at 20% oil life at 6300 miles, so I would think that I should have it
serviced at my Honda dealer at 7000-7500.

"Nobody" <nobody (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote

pump and rack. The same applies to the automatic transmission or manual
transmission, but the destruction goes deeper there. Honda coolant is
compatible with some others, but it isn't hard to get ahold of coolant that
will kill your water pump which could lead to engine destruction through
overheating or timing belt failure. The trend to manufacturer-specific
fluids is growing; Hondas and Toyotas will last a long time, but won't last
long at all if care isn't taken in ensuring the right fluids are used.

Maybe I should call it a resurgence. In the 60s several parts manufacturers
(notably Girling) used natural rubber seals that would not last long if
generic brake or hydraulic fluid was used. I killed the brakes in my Lotus
because I listened to a parts guy in a store and used DOT 3 fluid. Duh!

Anyway, I've taken to getting all my fluids except motor oil at the dealer.
It's cheaper in the long run.

Mike