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Matt Ion
 
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Default Re: Civic hesitation problem... - 05-12-2007 , 02:13 AM






Dave and Trudy wrote:
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"Matt Ion" <soundy106 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Buddy of mine just rebuilt (with all OEM parts!) a D16A6 with PGM-FI for
his '89 Civic (including the appropriate computer and wiring harness). Got
it installed, turned the key, engine turned 3 times... and fired right up.
Very nice. Idles smoooooth and quiet...

But when he gives it any gas, even just sitting in neutral, it bogs and
hesitates. Hit the gas too fast, and it just sputters and dies. Do it
carefully, and once it gets 1800rpm or so, it works fine. It also seems
to idle a little bit rich.

Thoughts? Ideas? He's checked for error codes, but it's not giving any.

TIA
Just a thought...Some of these systems take a bit of time for the various
processors to synch and get a baseline established. I don't know about the
Honda Civic but I do know that the Chrysler takes a day or so to get
completely normal.
Yeah, don't think that's an issue in an '89 with OBD-0.


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Default Re: Civic hesitation problem... - 05-12-2007 , 08:25 AM






"Matt Ion" <soundy106 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Buddy of mine just rebuilt (with all OEM parts!) a D16A6 with PGM-FI for
his '89 Civic (including the appropriate computer and wiring harness). Got
it installed, turned the key, engine turned 3 times... and fired right up.
Very nice. Idles smoooooth and quiet...

But when he gives it any gas, even just sitting in neutral, it bogs and
hesitates. Hit the gas too fast, and it just sputters and dies. Do it
carefully, and once it gets 1800rpm or so, it works fine. It also seems
to idle a little bit rich.

Thoughts? Ideas? He's checked for error codes, but it's not giving any.

TIA

It would really help to separate mixture trouble from ignition trouble. How
about a timing light to see what the timing does when the throttle is opened
a bit? The timing should advance a few degrees, but not jump fifteen degrees
or retard a lot. (It may retard some based on the rise in MAP.) Similarly he
can try adding a squirt of starting fluid into the air cleaner a second
before he opens the throttle to see if that improves the response - which
would point to a lean mixture on throttle opening.

Mike





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Matt Ion
 
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Default Re: Civic hesitation problem... - 05-12-2007 , 10:20 AM



Michael Pardee wrote:
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"Matt Ion" <soundy106 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:NE21i.173204$DE1.115546 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
Buddy of mine just rebuilt (with all OEM parts!) a D16A6 with PGM-FI for
his '89 Civic (including the appropriate computer and wiring harness). Got
it installed, turned the key, engine turned 3 times... and fired right up.
Very nice. Idles smoooooth and quiet...

But when he gives it any gas, even just sitting in neutral, it bogs and
hesitates. Hit the gas too fast, and it just sputters and dies. Do it
carefully, and once it gets 1800rpm or so, it works fine. It also seems
to idle a little bit rich.

Thoughts? Ideas? He's checked for error codes, but it's not giving any.

TIA

It would really help to separate mixture trouble from ignition trouble. How
about a timing light to see what the timing does when the throttle is opened
a bit? The timing should advance a few degrees, but not jump fifteen degrees
or retard a lot. (It may retard some based on the rise in MAP.) Similarly he
can try adding a squirt of starting fluid into the air cleaner a second
before he opens the throttle to see if that improves the response - which
would point to a lean mixture on throttle opening.
Ignition timing has already been checked, but I'll pass on the other
suggestion.



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