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Default Disabling the power antenna - 12-28-2004 , 11:11 PM






In freezing temperatures the power antenna on my '94 Accord LX is
often stuck because of the plastic strip that moves the antenna telescop
is just not able to handle the extra friction. Since I still want to use
my mp3 player through the radios FM band under those conditions, I'd
like to splice in a toggle switch in the line that sends the "radio-on"
signal to the antenna servo.
From what I see in the wiring diagram, the servo motor gets both a
constant +12V voltage and a "radio-on" 12V (?) on two separate lines (in
addition of Ground) and from that I gather that the radio-on voltage
supplies low signal power only to a relay that then applies the constant
12V power to the motor. So, it's pretty obvious that the toggle switch
should be installed serially in the radio-on line. What is not obvious
to me is from the wiring diagram just where the best place in that line
would be because I can't see where that line originates under the
dashboard. Has any of you installed such a switch and can lend me a hand
in this?

Rudy


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Default Re: Disabling the power antenna - 12-28-2004 , 11:47 PM






"R. P." <r_pol12gar (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
In freezing temperatures the power antenna on my '94 Accord LX is often
stuck because of the plastic strip that moves the antenna telescop is just
not able to handle the extra friction. Since I still want to use my mp3
player through the radios FM band under those conditions, I'd like to
splice in a toggle switch in the line that sends the "radio-on" signal to
the antenna servo.
From what I see in the wiring diagram, the servo motor gets both a
constant +12V voltage and a "radio-on" 12V (?) on two separate lines (in
addition of Ground) and from that I gather that the radio-on voltage
supplies low signal power only to a relay that then applies the constant
12V power to the motor. So, it's pretty obvious that the toggle switch
should be installed serially in the radio-on line. What is not obvious to
me is from the wiring diagram just where the best place in that line would
be because I can't see where that line originates under the dashboard. Has
any of you installed such a switch and can lend me a hand in this?

Rudy

Another thing others have done is to wipe the antenna (while it is extended)
with silicone spray on a cloth. It may not do the job for you, but it is
easy to try... once you get the darned thing extended!

Mike




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Default Re: Disabling the power antenna - 12-29-2004 , 12:53 AM



"Randolph" <trash (AT) junkmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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I have no particular knowledge of the '94 Accord, but I would think
the
least painful would be to remove the stereo and tap into the wiring
harness that plugs in at the back of the stereo.

http://tinyurl.com/3wh3a (leads to http://www.installdr.com) will tell
you how to remove the stereo. It also says the wire is brown with
white
stripe, same as right rear speaker negative. I believe this is wrong,
the factory manual says YEL/WHT for the antenna trigger (and BRN/WHT
for
the right rear speaker negative).
I do have the '94 Accord service manual and using that I've already
replaced the radio once, so I know how to do it. However, I'm not sure
the best place is at that wiring harness to make the splice for the
toggle switch. Oh, and yes, you're right about the color coding of the
antenna trigger wire: it is YEL/WHT at the antenna end. WHT/BLU is for
the constant battery voltage there.

Rudy



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Default Re: Disabling the power antenna - 12-29-2004 , 01:16 AM




"R. P." wrote:
Quote:
"Randolph" <trash (AT) junkmail (DOT) com> wrote:
I have no particular knowledge of the '94 Accord, but I would think
the
least painful would be to remove the stereo and tap into the wiring
harness that plugs in at the back of the stereo.

I do have the '94 Accord service manual and using that I've already
replaced the radio once, so I know how to do it. However, I'm not sure
the best place is at that wiring harness to make the splice for the
toggle switch. Oh, and yes, you're right about the color coding of the
antenna trigger wire: it is YEL/WHT at the antenna end. WHT/BLU is for
the constant battery voltage there.
If you put in an after-market stereo, you probably used an adapter
harness that plugs in between the stereo and the original plug on the
car wiring harness. If so, I would splice the toggle switch into this
adapter harness.


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Default Re: Disabling the power antenna - 12-29-2004 , 03:32 AM



One solution is to replace the antenna with an inexpensive manual
aftermarket antenna.....costs about $12. They are easy to install,
easier than installing a switch in the dash..
Keep the automatic antenna, then in the springtime reinstall it.
I have installed the automatic antenna in a Saab, a switch in a Datsun
and now both my present cars have manual antennas.


On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 04:11:09 GMT, "R. P." <r_pol12gar (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>
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Quote:
In freezing temperatures the power antenna on my '94 Accord LX is
often stuck because of the plastic strip that moves the antenna telescop
is just not able to handle the extra friction. Since I still want to use
my mp3 player through the radios FM band under those conditions, I'd
like to splice in a toggle switch in the line that sends the "radio-on"
signal to the antenna servo.
From what I see in the wiring diagram, the servo motor gets both a
constant +12V voltage and a "radio-on" 12V (?) on two separate lines (in
addition of Ground) and from that I gather that the radio-on voltage
supplies low signal power only to a relay that then applies the constant
12V power to the motor. So, it's pretty obvious that the toggle switch
should be installed serially in the radio-on line. What is not obvious
to me is from the wiring diagram just where the best place in that line
would be because I can't see where that line originates under the
dashboard. Has any of you installed such a switch and can lend me a hand
in this?

Rudy


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Default Re: Disabling the power antenna - 12-29-2004 , 11:58 AM



"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull (AT) cybertrails (DOT) com> wrote in
news:qsidnat8cMtvq0_cRVn-og (AT) sedona (DOT) net:

Quote:
"R. P." <r_pol12gar (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:w7qAd.297722$HA.67247 (AT) attbi_s01 (DOT) ..
In freezing temperatures the power antenna on my '94 Accord LX is
often
stuck because of the plastic strip that moves the antenna telescop is
just not able to handle the extra friction. Since I still want to use
my mp3 player through the radios FM band under those conditions, I'd
like to splice in a toggle switch in the line that sends the
"radio-on" signal to the antenna servo.
From what I see in the wiring diagram, the servo motor gets both a
constant +12V voltage and a "radio-on" 12V (?) on two separate lines
(in addition of Ground) and from that I gather that the radio-on
voltage supplies low signal power only to a relay that then applies
the constant 12V power to the motor. So, it's pretty obvious that
the toggle switch should be installed serially in the radio-on line.
What is not obvious to me is from the wiring diagram just where the
best place in that line would be because I can't see where that line
originates under the dashboard. Has any of you installed such a
switch and can lend me a hand in this?

Rudy

Another thing others have done is to wipe the antenna (while it is
extended) with silicone spray on a cloth. It may not do the job for
you, but it is easy to try... once you get the darned thing extended!

Mike



Radio Shack makes a teflon lube gel that works in VERY low temps.
Silicone spray doesn't last.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net


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Default Re: Disabling the power antenna - 12-29-2004 , 02:50 PM



"Randolph" <trash (AT) junkmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
If you put in an after-market stereo, you probably used an adapter
harness that plugs in between the stereo and the original plug on the
car wiring harness. If so, I would splice the toggle switch into this
adapter harness.
Actually, I installed the same model AM/FM radio as the original
was, so I needed no adapter harness. I got the replacement radio from a
junked car.

Rudy



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Default Re: Disabling the power antenna - 12-29-2004 , 04:25 PM



"Jim Yanik" <jyanik (AT) abuse (DOT) gov.> wrote

Quote:
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull (AT) cybertrails (DOT) com> wrote in

Another thing others have done is to wipe the antenna (while it is
extended) with silicone spray on a cloth. It may not do the job for
you, but it is easy to try... once you get the darned thing extended!

Mike




Radio Shack makes a teflon lube gel that works in VERY low temps.
Silicone spray doesn't last.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
Great! Thanks, Jim.

Mike




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Default Re: Disabling the power antenna - 12-29-2004 , 10:44 PM



"Jim Yanik" <jyanik (AT) abuse (DOT) gov.> wrote:
Quote:
Radio Shack makes a teflon lube gel that works in VERY low temps.
Silicone spray doesn't last.
I looked for it at a local Radio Shack store and what I found was
something called "All-Purpose Lube Gel" but there was no indication on
the tube that it contained teflon. However, from its general properties,
I suspected that was it and bought a tube. Sure enough, on the receipt
it was described as "Lube Gel w teflon," so I figured I got that one
right. Too bad that not even their Web page mentions teflon at:
http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...5Fid=64%2D2326

The above Web address is supposed to be a single line, BTW.

Anyway, thanks for the tip, Jim, I'll try it. If this does not do the
job at cold temps, I still might install an SPDT switch in the antenna
trigger line, so it would allow normal, always retracted and always
extracted antenna operation. The latter one by applying the battery
voltage to the trigger wire in place of the radio-on signal.

Rudy



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Default Re: Disabling the power antenna - 01-06-2005 , 06:03 AM




"R. P." <r_pol12gar (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> schreef in bericht
news:w7qAd.297722$HA.67247 (AT) attbi_s01 (DOT) ..
Quote:
In freezing temperatures the power antenna on my '94 Accord LX is
often stuck because of the plastic strip that moves the antenna telescop
is just not able to handle the extra friction. Since I still want to use
my mp3 player through the radios FM band under those conditions, I'd
like to splice in a toggle switch in the line that sends the "radio-on"
signal to the antenna servo.
From what I see in the wiring diagram, the servo motor gets both a
constant +12V voltage and a "radio-on" 12V (?) on two separate lines (in
addition of Ground) and from that I gather that the radio-on voltage
supplies low signal power only to a relay that then applies the constant
12V power to the motor. So, it's pretty obvious that the toggle switch
should be installed serially in the radio-on line. What is not obvious
to me is from the wiring diagram just where the best place in that line
would be because I can't see where that line originates under the
dashboard. Has any of you installed such a switch and can lend me a hand
in this?

Rudy

Have the same problem with my '98 accord...
found a solution to if one removes the radio you will see a white wire that
goes to the radio
if you disconect it the antenna will not work anymore...
maybe this helps....




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