Hello all.

I've noticed some discussion on this topic, but it seems to have been a
bit dated.

I have a 2004 Accord EX coupe V6MT. I previously owned a 2003 Accord
EX coupe V6Auto.

In both cars I have experienced a problem with the drivers seat moving
ever so slightly while stopping, starting, or turning. I traded in my
2003 Accord, because Honda did not want to fix the seat, so i figured,
I'd get a new one and all would be fine. This was not the case.

I have taken my Honda Accord to 3 different dealers. Mahway, NJ;
Paramus, NJ; and Nanuet, NY. All three have told me that the drivers
seat moving is "Normal Operation". Basically, the service technician
at the Nanuet, NY service department told me that if he swaped out the
seat rails, that the parts would cost $1,000 and labor would be 6
hours. He also mentioned that the dealership would probably not recoup
the money because Honda does not recognized the problem with the seat
rails.

I also had previously contacted Honda of America and talked to customer
service representitive. He was very unhelpful, and told me that he
couldn't find anything in his system on this subject. He also asked me
if I "TEST DROVE" the car. I said, of course i test drove it, but the
seat in that car didn't move when i drove.

To me, this is not only a quality control issue, but a saftey issue.

At this point, i will most likely be selling or trading in my Accord
for a better built Toyota or Nissan. It's unfortunate that a car that
would be fun to drive, becomes something I dread on getting into
everyday.

If anyone is willing to sign and send a peition together please let me
know. I'd be willing to put a petition and a letter together.

kirk.malajian (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

Toyota has had some quality issues too. And Nissan is even worse.

I had this in a 91 Taurus. It was replaced several times before I gave up.
My current Hondas don't do this. My chrysler 300M did slightly. Don't
remember whether my Avalon did. Basically I think it is a function of
plastic gears used in power seat mechanisms and slight slop that develops.


<kirk.malajian (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

<kirk.malajian (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

It's just a little play in the track. What makes you think it is a safety
issue? Mine's been exactly the same for 168,000 miles and has not gotten
any worse.

kirk.malajian (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
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Here's a TSB about the Civic having a similar problem . . . . Shame to
throw out the whole car for such a simple problem . .

http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/tsb/civic/x01-057e.pdf

'Curly'

My 1994 Toyota Celica does the same thing. It moves just a little
forwards and backwards. Maybe a few mm or so. Never thought of it as
a safety issue, though. Sometimes if I adjust my seat, the first stop
I come to the seat moves a half inch or so and locks in place. But it
still has that few mm of play in it.

My 97 Camry with power seats did the same thing. It bothered me so much I
gave the car to my wife to drive. (I bought a 98 accord) It didnt bother
her.
Then she was rear ended on the highway. Some rear end damagen minor injury
to my wife.
The seat motor made a grinding sound now.. The repair guy said it was normal
untill I showed him that the passenger side did not make the noise.
He called the insurance adjuster out and they repaired the drivers seat. Not
sure what they did but it fixed the problem.

I found the movement to be very annoying every time I started and stopped I
would feel the seat move slightly....

I wouldnt recomend going out and getting rear ended but it did fix the
problem with my seat..

Steve


<kirk.malajian (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

kirk.malajian (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

I had this problem on my '03 and the dealer eventually fixed it by
replacing the seat track. I had to be persistent, but they finally
sorted it out.

John

kirk,

If the power seat mechanism was a tight as you think it should be. The
electric motors would have to be as big as starter motors to get the job
done.

If a little play in the seat track is such a life altering problem, you're
a lucky man.




kirk.malajian (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

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No Lawsuit Ever Fixed A Moron...

Kirk,

don't listen to those he think it's nothing. What you describe is one of
the most annoying little things you can experience in a car just because it
is such a tiny thing and you can't get anyone to fix it.

Norm

kirk.malajian (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: