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Default Re: Hard gear change 1st to 2nd - 05-17-2007 , 06:34 AM






On May 16, 8:57 am, "~misfit~" <misfit6... (AT) hooya (DOT) com.au> wrote:
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Michael Pardee wrote:
"~misfit~" <misfit6... (AT) hooya (DOT) com.au> wrote in message
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steven.scir... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
On May 12, 1:37 am, "~misfit~" <misfit6... (AT) hooya (DOT) com.au> wrote:
steven.scir... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

I've also noticed that if Ichangegear(1st ->2nd) at slower
speeds < 10 km/h it changes ok....only when at speeds approaching
20 km/h does it gethard....

Steve

That indicates to me that you need to adjust your clutch cable.
It's cheap (you can do it yourself) and if it doesn't fix it then
you can look elsewhere. It sounds to me like it's not de-clutching
sufficiently.

I would expect the effect of the clutch dragging to be approximately
the same at all speeds.

IME if the clutch is not disengaging properly it's more noticable at higher
revs.

My last work truck was doing the same thing -hard1-2 upshift, worse
at higher speeds and always worse than the downshift - but I couldn't
get the garage to bother with it. After a few months the gears
started howling, and I was nearly a hundred miles from home. After
the tranny was filled the shifting was much more normal.

Ok, handy to know.
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Well....Today i made sure the clutch is ok....I made the slipping test
where you put the car into 4th, handbrake on and let out the clutch
with the engine dying as soon as I let it out...so at least it isnt
slipping. Still need to take the car to the mechanic for the oil/cable
check....Also to clarify...the problem I have is changing to 2nd gear
at higher speeds..ex. coasting...(not ideal i know i know ) ...not
revs...actually with the car at high revs the problem seems to be less
(i.e. w/ choke engaged)....Thanks for your guys help

Steve



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Default Re: Hard gear change 1st to 2nd - 05-17-2007 , 11:16 PM






"Stevoo" <ElStevoo (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Well....Today i made sure the clutch is ok....I made the slipping test
where you put the car into 4th, handbrake on and let out the clutch
with the engine dying as soon as I let it out...so at least it isnt
slipping. Still need to take the car to the mechanic for the oil/cable
check....Also to clarify...the problem I have is changing to 2nd gear
at higher speeds..ex. coasting...(not ideal i know i know ) ...not
revs...actually with the car at high revs the problem seems to be less
(i.e. w/ choke engaged)....Thanks for your guys help

Steve


The test for the opposite - a dragging clutch - can be done by engaging
first or second gear with the clutch in and the car stationary, then
shifting out of gear and right back in without releasing the clutch. If the
shift back in gear is effortless, the clutch isn't dragging. If the shifter
resists going right back into gear, the clutch is dragging.

Mike





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Default Re: Hard gear change 1st to 2nd - 05-18-2007 , 02:40 AM



Michael Pardee wrote:
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"Stevoo" <ElStevoo (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Well....Today i made sure the clutch is ok....I made the slipping
test where you put the car into 4th, handbrake on and let out the
clutch with the engine dying as soon as I let it out...so at least
it isnt slipping. Still need to take the car to the mechanic for
the oil/cable check....Also to clarify...the problem I have is
changing to 2nd gear at higher speeds..ex. coasting...(not ideal i
know i know ) ...not revs...actually with the car at high revs
the problem seems to be less (i.e. w/ choke engaged)....Thanks for
your guys help Steve


The test for the opposite - a dragging clutch - can be done by
engaging first or second gear with the clutch in and the car
stationary, then shifting out of gear and right back in without
releasing the clutch. If the shift back in gear is effortless, the
clutch isn't dragging. If the shifter resists going right back into
gear, the clutch is dragging.
Yeah, what Mike said. (With the engine running of course)

You tested for the wrong clutch problem.
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Default Re: Hard gear change 1st to 2nd - 05-21-2007 , 04:56 AM



On May 18, 9:40 am, "~misfit~" <misfit6... (AT) hooya (DOT) com.au> wrote:
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Michael Pardee wrote:
"Stevoo" <ElSte... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1179401655.196255.94170 (AT) e65g2000hsc (DOT) googlegroups.com...

Well....Today i made sure the clutch is ok....I made the slipping
test where you put the car into 4th, handbrake on and let out the
clutch with the engine dying as soon as I let it out...so at least
it isnt slipping. Still need to take the car to the mechanic for
the oil/cable check....Also to clarify...the problem I have is
changing to 2ndgearat higher speeds..ex. coasting...(not ideal i
know i know ) ...not revs...actually with the car at high revs
the problem seems to be less (i.e. w/ choke engaged)....Thanks for
your guys help Steve

The test for the opposite - a dragging clutch - can be done by
engaging first or secondgearwith the clutch in and the car
stationary, then shifting out ofgearand right back in without
releasing the clutch. If the shift back ingearis effortless, the
clutch isn't dragging. If the shifter resists going right back into
gear, the clutch is dragging.

Yeah, what Mike said. (With the engine running of course)

You tested for the wrong clutch problem.
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Ok did the test...seems clutch isn't dragging neither...thanks for
your help guys!!

Steve



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