03 Pilot transmission failing

In 04, had it in for a recall for a problem with 2nd gear. Now at
54,000 miles, 2nd gear is failing and needs a new trans. Should Honda
cover this?

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mollea wrote:

In 04, had it in for a recall for a problem with 2nd gear. Now at
54,000 miles, 2nd gear is failing and needs a new trans. Should Honda
cover this?

I am not sure of the 03, but most current Hondas have a powertrain warranty
that goes 6 years, 60,000 miles, so it MAY be covered.

Check your manual.

If it is not under warranty, call American Honda, and see what they will do,
based on service history.

mollea wrote:

In 04, had it in for a recall for a problem with 2nd gear. Now at
54,000 miles, 2nd gear is failing and needs a new trans. Should Honda
cover this?

I also forgot to mention: If the recall you are talking about is the same
one that covered the Accords and Odysseys, your warranty has been boosted
to 108,000 miles for the Tranny. I don't know if the Pilot was one of
them, and I am too lazy to check right now, but call your dealer, and they
will know.

"Joe LaVigne" <jlavigne (AT) hits-buffalo (DOT) com> wrote

mollea wrote:

In 04, had it in for a recall for a problem with 2nd gear. Now at
54,000 miles, 2nd gear is failing and needs a new trans. Should Honda
cover this?


I also forgot to mention: If the recall you are talking about is the same
one that covered the Accords and Odysseys, your warranty has been boosted
to 108,000 miles for the Tranny. I don't know if the Pilot was one of
them, and I am too lazy to check right now, but call your dealer, and they
will know.

We have an 03 with 57k miles. There is no extended warranty. It expires at
36k miles or 3 years whichever comes first. 54k is a little early for
transmission failure, most of the ones I have read about go at around 100k.
The best he can do is talk to his dealer and see if HOnda will at least go
50% on a new or rebuilt transmission. The transmission in the Pilot is it's
weak point.

tww1491 wrote:

"Joe LaVigne" <jlavigne (AT) hits-buffalo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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mollea wrote:

In 04, had it in for a recall for a problem with 2nd gear. Now at
54,000 miles, 2nd gear is failing and needs a new trans. Should
Honda cover this?


I also forgot to mention: If the recall you are talking about is the
same one that covered the Accords and Odysseys, your warranty has
been boosted to 108,000 miles for the Tranny. I don't know if the
Pilot was one of them, and I am too lazy to check right now, but
call your dealer, and they will know.


We have an 03 with 57k miles. There is no extended warranty. It
expires at 36k miles or 3 years whichever comes first. 54k is a
little early for transmission failure, most of the ones I have read
about go at around 100k. The best he can do is talk to his dealer and
see if HOnda will at least go 50% on a new or rebuilt transmission. The
transmission in the Pilot is it's weak point.

The recall for the 2nd gear issue also included a 100K 7 mi year warranty
coverage on the tranny..

"L Alpert" <alpertl (AT) xxgmail (DOT) com> wrote

tww1491 wrote:
"Joe LaVigne" <jlavigne (AT) hits-buffalo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:ev5bd4$i0t$4 (AT) news (DOT) datemas.de...
mollea wrote:

In 04, had it in for a recall for a problem with 2nd gear. Now at
54,000 miles, 2nd gear is failing and needs a new trans. Should
Honda cover this?


I also forgot to mention: If the recall you are talking about is the
same one that covered the Accords and Odysseys, your warranty has
been boosted to 108,000 miles for the Tranny. I don't know if the
Pilot was one of them, and I am too lazy to check right now, but
call your dealer, and they will know.


We have an 03 with 57k miles. There is no extended warranty. It
expires at 36k miles or 3 years whichever comes first. 54k is a
little early for transmission failure, most of the ones I have read
about go at around 100k. The best he can do is talk to his dealer and
see if HOnda will at least go 50% on a new or rebuilt transmission. The
transmission in the Pilot is it's weak point.

The recall for the 2nd gear issue also included a 100K 7 mi year warranty
coverage on the tranny..

We received absolutely nothing from Honda indicating that there was a
warranty extension. I will have to write them -- I doubt the dealer will be
willing to own up.

-- I doubt the dealer will be

willing to own up.

Why?

My dealership is great about these kinds of things--but, as with
everything in life, you have to ask.

Why wouldn't your dealer want to warrant your trans? He can either get paid
by the consumer or Honda to do the trans replacement. What Honda pays is not
that much less than the consumer pays. Who cares who pays the bill when you
get paid.
Would you say the Technician, the Service Advisor, the Service Manager, the
Parts counterperson, the Parts Manager, the General Manager and the dealer
principal (owner) all have too much money to turn down such a high price job
no matter who pays?

Howard

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop (AT) nastydesigns (DOT) com> wrote

In article <JoURh.248504$ia7.64746 (AT) newsfe14 (DOT) lga>,
"tww1491" <twaugh5 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote:

The recall for the 2nd gear issue also included a 100K 7 mi year
warranty
coverage on the tranny..

We received absolutely nothing from Honda indicating that there was a
warranty extension. I will have to write them -- I doubt the dealer will
be
willing to own up.

Why?

My dealership is great about these kinds of things--but, as with
everything in life, you have to ask.

I tend to get answers like -- "I don't know" or in this case "no it does
not," which I'll bet is the answer. In the end, I will likely have to write
to Honda for an answer. At this point, we have had no problems with our
Pilot's transmission. Heck, when I looked at the 06 I4 last year, it
seemed to me that Honda had gone to a chain vs a belt for the cams. When I
asked the service type, the answer was he did not know, but did not think
so.

tww1491 wrote:

"L Alpert" <alpertl (AT) xxgmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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tww1491 wrote:
"Joe LaVigne" <jlavigne (AT) hits-buffalo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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mollea wrote:

In 04, had it in for a recall for a problem with 2nd gear. Now at
54,000 miles, 2nd gear is failing and needs a new trans. Should
Honda cover this?


I also forgot to mention: If the recall you are talking about is
the same one that covered the Accords and Odysseys, your warranty
has been boosted to 108,000 miles for the Tranny. I don't know if
the Pilot was one of them, and I am too lazy to check right now,
but call your dealer, and they will know.


We have an 03 with 57k miles. There is no extended warranty. It
expires at 36k miles or 3 years whichever comes first. 54k is a
little early for transmission failure, most of the ones I have read
about go at around 100k. The best he can do is talk to his dealer
and see if HOnda will at least go 50% on a new or rebuilt
transmission. The transmission in the Pilot is it's weak point.

The recall for the 2nd gear issue also included a 100K 7 mi year
warranty coverage on the tranny..

We received absolutely nothing from Honda indicating that there was a
warranty extension. I will have to write them -- I doubt the dealer
will be willing to own up.

I believe you should have gotten a notification of the extended warranty
with your recall notice. There are a couple of numbers supplied below (from
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov)
-----------------

Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
ACURA / 3.2CL 2001-2003

ACURA / 3.2TL 2000-2004

ACURA / MDX 2001-2002

HONDA / ACCORD 2003-2004

HONDA / ODYSSEY 2002-2004

HONDA / PILOT 2003-2004

Recall Number: 04V176000
Summary:
ON SOME MINI VANS, SPORT UTILITY AND PASSENGER VEHICLES, CERTAIN
OPERATING CONDITIONS CAN RESULT IN HEAT BUILD-UP BETWEEN THE COUNTERSHAFT
AND SECONDARY SHAFT SECOND GEARS IN THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION, EVENTUALLY
LEADING TO GEAR TOOTH CHIPPING OR GEAR BREAKAGE.
Consequence:
GEAR FAILURE COULD RESULT IN TRANSMISSION LOCKUP, WHICH COULD RESULT
IN A CRASH.
Remedy:
ON VEHICLES WITH 15,000 MILES OR LESS, THE DEALER WILL UPDATE THE
TRANSMISSION WITH A SIMPLE REVISION TO THE OIL COOLER RETURN LINE TO
INCREASE LUBRICATION TO THE SECOND GEAR. ON VEHICLES WITH MORE THAN 15,000
MILES, THE DEALER WILL INSPECT THE TRANSMISSION TO IDENTIFY GEARS THAT HAVE
ALREADY EXPERIENCED DISCOLORATION DUE TO OVERHEATING. IF DISCOLORATION
EXISTS, THE TRANSMISSION WILL BE REPLACED IF DISCOLORATION IS NOT PRESENT,
THE DEALER WILL PERFORM THE REVISION TO THE OIL COOLER RETURN LINE. THE
RECALL BEGAN ON APRIL 21, 2004, FOR PILOT, ODYSSEY, AND MDX OWNERS. OWNERS
OF THE ACCORD VEHICLES WILL START RECEIVING LETTERS ON JUNE 28, 2004, AND ON
JUNE 29, 2004, FOR OWNERS OF THE TL AND CL VEHICLES. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT
HONDA AT 1-800-999-1009 OR ACURA AT 1-800-382-2238.
Notes:
HONDA RECALL NOS. P30 (ODYSSEY AND PILOT), P31 (MDX), P38 (ACCORD) AND
P39 (ACURA). CUSTOMERS CAN ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY
ADMINISTRATION?S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT (1-888-327-4236).

"L Alpert" <alpertl (AT) xxgmail (DOT) com> wrote

tww1491 wrote:
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tww1491 wrote:
"Joe LaVigne" <jlavigne (AT) hits-buffalo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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mollea wrote:

In 04, had it in for a recall for a problem with 2nd gear. Now at
54,000 miles, 2nd gear is failing and needs a new trans. Should
Honda cover this?


I also forgot to mention: If the recall you are talking about is
the same one that covered the Accords and Odysseys, your warranty
has been boosted to 108,000 miles for the Tranny. I don't know if
the Pilot was one of them, and I am too lazy to check right now,
but call your dealer, and they will know.


We have an 03 with 57k miles. There is no extended warranty. It
expires at 36k miles or 3 years whichever comes first. 54k is a
little early for transmission failure, most of the ones I have read
about go at around 100k. The best he can do is talk to his dealer
and see if HOnda will at least go 50% on a new or rebuilt
transmission. The transmission in the Pilot is it's weak point.

The recall for the 2nd gear issue also included a 100K 7 mi year
warranty coverage on the tranny..

We received absolutely nothing from Honda indicating that there was a
warranty extension. I will have to write them -- I doubt the dealer
will be willing to own up.

I believe you should have gotten a notification of the extended warranty
with your recall notice. There are a couple of numbers supplied below
(from http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov)
-----------------
The letter to the owners says nothing about an extended warranty -- just the

recall. From what I have read, Honda felt that it could solve the problem
with the oil injector kit and that an extended warranty was unnecessary.

Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
ACURA / 3.2CL 2001-2003

ACURA / 3.2TL 2000-2004

ACURA / MDX 2001-2002

HONDA / ACCORD 2003-2004

HONDA / ODYSSEY 2002-2004

HONDA / PILOT 2003-2004

Recall Number: 04V176000
Summary:
ON SOME MINI VANS, SPORT UTILITY AND PASSENGER VEHICLES, CERTAIN
OPERATING CONDITIONS CAN RESULT IN HEAT BUILD-UP BETWEEN THE COUNTERSHAFT
AND SECONDARY SHAFT SECOND GEARS IN THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION, EVENTUALLY
LEADING TO GEAR TOOTH CHIPPING OR GEAR BREAKAGE.
Consequence:
GEAR FAILURE COULD RESULT IN TRANSMISSION LOCKUP, WHICH COULD RESULT
IN A CRASH.
Remedy:
ON VEHICLES WITH 15,000 MILES OR LESS, THE DEALER WILL UPDATE THE
TRANSMISSION WITH A SIMPLE REVISION TO THE OIL COOLER RETURN LINE TO
INCREASE LUBRICATION TO THE SECOND GEAR. ON VEHICLES WITH MORE THAN 15,000
MILES, THE DEALER WILL INSPECT THE TRANSMISSION TO IDENTIFY GEARS THAT
HAVE ALREADY EXPERIENCED DISCOLORATION DUE TO OVERHEATING. IF
DISCOLORATION EXISTS, THE TRANSMISSION WILL BE REPLACED IF DISCOLORATION
IS NOT PRESENT, THE DEALER WILL PERFORM THE REVISION TO THE OIL COOLER
RETURN LINE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON APRIL 21, 2004, FOR PILOT, ODYSSEY, AND
MDX OWNERS. OWNERS OF THE ACCORD VEHICLES WILL START RECEIVING LETTERS ON
JUNE 28, 2004, AND ON JUNE 29, 2004, FOR OWNERS OF THE TL AND CL VEHICLES.
OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT HONDA AT 1-800-999-1009 OR ACURA AT 1-800-382-2238.
Notes:
HONDA RECALL NOS. P30 (ODYSSEY AND PILOT), P31 (MDX), P38 (ACCORD)
AND P39 (ACURA). CUSTOMERS CAN ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC
SAFETY ADMINISTRATION?S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-DASH-2-DOT
(1-888-327-4236).