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Question re first 3 month service
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Re: Question re first 3 month service -
05-07-2007
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I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light came on, on the dashboard? Correct. In fact, your manual specifically advises you to NOT change your oil early, for your first oil change. i could not see how it could hurt as long as you don't put synthetics |
me thinks no point to change the oil filter though.
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You'll get service reminders all the time. Just ignore them until your vehicle tells you it needs service. |
a toaster on wheels with a slushbox anyway :^)
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Dano58 wrote: This whole 'Maintenance Minder' thing is still a struggle for me! We have about 4700 miles on our '07 Odyssey and the 'oil life' is still at 20%! I'm taking it in this week, just can't wait any longer..... Besides, I have 4 free oil change coupons that the dealer gave me as part of the sale of the car. I've always changed the oil at 1500 miles then every 3k after that (5k with the synthetic in my Audi). So this is new territory for me. OTOH the car is leased, so in 2.5 years Honda is getting it back, so..... i don't mean this to be facetious, even though it sounds it, but why are you abandoning science and research for tradition and superstition? put another way, why can't you trust the engineers that poured millions of dollars and years of research into developing this stuff? if it's fear of the unknown, what do you know about metal fatigue and do you still fly in planes? |
am - just that I'm having a hard time adjusting to it. My last new
car, a 2004 Audi A4, has a traditional schedule of oil changes and
service, especially with it's turbo 1.8T engine.
And it may be 'science and research', but when Audi first came out
with the 1.8T engine, they recommended regular dino oil and 10k change
intervals. That changed in 2004 after having severe sludge issues -
they went to synthetic and a larger oil filter, along with decreased
change intervals. Those that maintained a 'traditional' 3k/5k oil
change schedule tend to have fewer sludge issues. So, sometimes in the
quest to cut maintenance costs, the manufacturers can get their
science and research messed up by bean counters.
Dan D
'07 Ody EX
Central NJ USA
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On May 7, 11:45 pm, jim beam <spamvor... (AT) bad (DOT) example.net> wrote: Dano58 wrote: This whole 'Maintenance Minder' thing is still a struggle for me! We have about 4700 miles on our '07 Odyssey and the 'oil life' is still at 20%! I'm taking it in this week, just can't wait any longer..... Besides, I have 4 free oil change coupons that the dealer gave me as part of the sale of the car. I've always changed the oil at 1500 miles then every 3k after that (5k with the synthetic in my Audi). So this is new territory for me. OTOH the car is leased, so in 2.5 years Honda is getting it back, so..... i don't mean this to be facetious, even though it sounds it, but why are you abandoning science and research for tradition and superstition? put another way, why can't you trust the engineers that poured millions of dollars and years of research into developing this stuff? if it's fear of the unknown, what do you know about metal fatigue and do you still fly in planes? I didn't say I was NOT following the Maintenance Minder - I actually am - just that I'm having a hard time adjusting to it. My last new car, a 2004 Audi A4, has a traditional schedule of oil changes and service, especially with it's turbo 1.8T engine. And it may be 'science and research', but when Audi first came out with the 1.8T engine, they recommended regular dino oil and 10k change intervals. That changed in 2004 after having severe sludge issues - they went to synthetic and a larger oil filter, along with decreased change intervals. Those that maintained a 'traditional' 3k/5k oil change schedule tend to have fewer sludge issues. So, sometimes in the quest to cut maintenance costs, the manufacturers can get their science and research messed up by bean counters. |
Another fine nail in the reliability coffin of Audi. I cannot imagine
in my wildest drunken side walk knuckle dragging episode of buying the
fact of a 10K change interval using dino oil in a turbo engine of any
kind...
Geeeeeeez..
JT
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On May 5, 8:26 am, Robert Barr <n... (AT) for (DOT) harvest> wrote: I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light came on, on the dashboard? Correct. In fact, your manual specifically advises you to NOT change your oil early, for your first oil change. i could not see how it could hurt as long as you don't put synthetics or a synthetic mix in. me thinks no point to change the oil filter though. You'll get service reminders all the time. Just ignore them until your vehicle tells you it needs service. wow. i'm glad i'm not buying a used honda not that i'd want a toaster on wheels with a slushbox anyway :^) |
maybe Hippies. Although the term "slushbox" has been applied wrongly to
automatic transmissions since I was a kid, it actually only fit the ancient
Buick Dynaflow... although the 2-speed GM Powerglide came close in
operation. Conceited stick jockies have used it to carelessly or mindlessly
denigrate the entire gamut of automatic transmissions, good, bad and ugly,
ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same as
modern manual transmissions but with controls (including lock-up torque
converters) built in.
Mike
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isquat (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1178599579.128945.288600 (AT) l77g2000hsb (DOT) googlegroups.com... On May 5, 8:26 am, Robert Barr <n... (AT) for (DOT) harvest> wrote: I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light came on, on the dashboard? Correct. In fact, your manual specifically advises you to NOT change your oil early, for your first oil change. i could not see how it could hurt as long as you don't put synthetics or a synthetic mix in. me thinks no point to change the oil filter though. You'll get service reminders all the time. Just ignore them until your vehicle tells you it needs service. wow. i'm glad i'm not buying a used honda not that i'd want a toaster on wheels with a slushbox anyway :^) Wow, are you out of date! Slushboxes were contemporary to the Beatniks and maybe Hippies. Although the term "slushbox" has been applied wrongly to automatic transmissions since I was a kid, it actually only fit the ancient Buick Dynaflow... although the 2-speed GM Powerglide came close in operation. Conceited stick jockies have used it to carelessly or mindlessly denigrate the entire gamut of automatic transmissions, good, bad and ugly, ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same as modern manual transmissions but with controls (including lock-up torque converters) built in. Mike |
My second car was a 1950 Buick Roadmaster. To increase fuel mileage,
one would start in low then shift into drive. Gotya about 11 instead of
the typical 10 mpg.
Even though, I love that biiiiiiig car! Wish I still had it..
JT
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| Wow, are you out of date! Slushboxes were contemporary to the Beatniks and maybe Hippies. Although the term "slushbox" has been applied wrongly to automatic transmissions since I was a kid, it actually only fit the ancient Buick Dynaflow... although the 2-speed GM Powerglide came close in operation. Conceited stick jockies have used it to carelessly or mindlessly denigrate the entire gamut of automatic transmissions, good, bad and ugly, ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same as modern manual transmissions but with controls (including lock-up torque converters) built in. My second car was a 1950 Buick Roadmaster. To increase fuel mileage, one would start in low then shift into drive. Gotya about 11 instead of the typical 10 mpg. Even though, I love that biiiiiiig car! Wish I still had it.. JT That's the thing! A manually shifted two speed meant to be used mostly as a |
Fluid Drive) when she and my brother first met. Doug said stepping on the
gas would cause the engine to roar to life, as the car started moving slowly
forward. Not the sort of transmission to mate with a small engine!
Roadmasters were supposed to be quite the ride, though. IIRC they had enough
power to make the Dynaflow useful.
Mike
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"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy (AT) ExtraGrumpyville (DOT) com> wrote in message news:Vr80i.117167$VU4.102189 (AT) bgtnsc05-news (DOT) ops.worldnet.att.net... Wow, are you out of date! Slushboxes were contemporary to the Beatniks and maybe Hippies. Although the term "slushbox" has been applied wrongly to automatic transmissions since I was a kid, it actually only fit the ancient Buick Dynaflow... although the 2-speed GM Powerglide came close in operation. Conceited stick jockies have used it to carelessly or mindlessly denigrate the entire gamut of automatic transmissions, good, bad and ugly, ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same as modern manual transmissions but with controls (including lock-up torque converters) built in. My second car was a 1950 Buick Roadmaster. To increase fuel mileage, one would start in low then shift into drive. Gotya about 11 instead of the typical 10 mpg. Even though, I love that biiiiiiig car! Wish I still had it.. JT That's the thing! A manually shifted two speed meant to be used mostly as a single speed. A sister-in-law had some lesser Buick with a Dynaflow (aka Fluid Drive) when she and my brother first met. Doug said stepping on the gas would cause the engine to roar to life, as the car started moving slowly forward. Not the sort of transmission to mate with a small engine! Roadmasters were supposed to be quite the ride, though. IIRC they had enough power to make the Dynaflow useful. Mike |
Yup... A huge overhead valve straight eight!
You could see the gas gauge go down as so did the gas pedal...
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JT
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If you got a letter from your dealer it is probably automatically generated based upon average mileage/usage to solicit or perhaps remind you that service may be imminent. Below is a copy/paste of what Honda interprets the codes on your maintenance minder system. Howard Where did you copy the maintenance info from? Please. |
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Michael Pardee wrote: isq... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1178599579.128945.288600 (AT) l77g2000hsb (DOT) googlegroups.com... On May 5, 8:26 am, Robert Barr <n... (AT) for (DOT) harvest> wrote: I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light came on, on the dashboard? Correct. *In fact, your manual specifically advises you to NOT change your oil early, for your first oil change. i could not see how it could hurt as long as you don't put synthetics or a synthetic mix in. me thinks no point to change the oil filter though. You'll get service reminders all the time. *Just ignore them until your vehicle tells you it needs service. wow. i'm glad i'm not buying a used honda not that i'd want a toaster on wheels with a slushbox anyway :^) Wow, are you out of date! Slushboxes were contemporary to the Beatniks and maybe Hippies. Although the term "slushbox" has been applied wrongly to automatic transmissions since I was a kid, it actually only fit the ancient BuickDynaflow... although the 2-speed GM Powerglide came close in operation. Conceited stick jockies have used it to carelessly or mindlessly denigrate the entire gamut of *automatic transmissions, good, bad andugly, ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same as modern manual transmissions but with controls (including lock-up torque converters) built in. Mike My second car was a 1950BuickRoadmaster. *To increase fuel mileage, one would start in low then shift into drive. *Gotya about 11 instead of the typical 10 mpg. Even though, I love that biiiiiiig car! *Wish I still had it.. JT- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On May 8, 8:19�pm, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru... (AT) ExtraGrumpyville (DOT) com wrote: Michael Pardee wrote: isq... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1178599579.128945.288600 (AT) l77g2000hsb (DOT) googlegroups.com... On May 5, 8:26 am, Robert Barr <n... (AT) for (DOT) harvest> wrote: I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light came on, on the dashboard? Correct. �In fact, your manual specifically advises you to NOT change your oil early, for your first oil change. i could not see how it could hurt as long as you don't put synthetics or a synthetic mix in. me thinks no point to change the oil filter though. You'll get service reminders all the time. �Just ignore them until your vehicle tells you it needs service. wow. i'm glad i'm not buying a used honda not that i'd want a toaster on wheels with a slushbox anyway :^) Wow, are you out of date! Slushboxes were contemporary to the Beatniks and maybe Hippies. Although the term "slushbox" has been applied wrongly to automatic transmissions since I was a kid, it actually only fit the ancient BuickDynaflow... although the 2-speed GM Powerglide came close in operation. Conceited stick jockies have used it to carelessly or mindlessly denigrate the entire gamut of �automatic transmissions, good, bad and ugly, ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same as modern manual transmissions but with controls (including lock-up torque converters) built in. Mike My second car was a 1950BuickRoadmaster. �To increase fuel mileage, one would start in low then shift into drive. �Gotya about 11 instead of the typical 10 mpg. Even though, I love that biiiiiiig car! �Wish I still had it.. JT- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I have a 1950 Roadmaster right now! |
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JT
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