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Default Re: Question re first 3 month service - 05-16-2007 , 03:05 AM






On May 8, 4:14 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn... (AT) cybertrails (DOT) com>
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isq... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message

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On May 5, 8:26 am, Robert Barr <n... (AT) for (DOT) harvest> wrote:
I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light
came on, on the dashboard?

Correct. In fact, your manual specifically advises you to NOT change
your oil early, for your first oil change.

i could not see how it could hurt as long as you don't put synthetics
or a synthetic mix in.
me thinks no point to change the oil filter though.

You'll get service reminders all the time. Just ignore them until your
vehicle tells you it needs service.

wow. i'm glad i'm not buying a used honda not that i'd want
a toaster on wheels with a slushbox anyway :^)

,
ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same as
modern manual transmissions
really??? I thought DSG is only found on certain VWs and even those
are far in between. Are you referring to the DSG clone in the upcoming
evo?
That car hasn't even been released to reviewers let alone the driving
public yet. Would you please be specific which technological
marvels you are referring to? found in which cars, specifically?
we're not marketing here and don't like things to me left to
imagination



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Default Re: Question re first 3 month service - 05-16-2007 , 02:09 PM






<isquat (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
On May 8, 4:14 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn... (AT) cybertrails (DOT) com
wrote:
,
ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same
as
modern manual transmissions

really??? I thought DSG is only found on certain VWs and even those
are far in between. Are you referring to the DSG clone in the upcoming
evo?
That car hasn't even been released to reviewers let alone the driving
public yet. Would you please be specific which technological
marvels you are referring to? found in which cars, specifically?
we're not marketing here and don't like things to me left to
imagination


"Slushboxes" were non-geared trannies. The venerable Dynaflow - the tranny
that gave rise to the term - was a fluid coupled torque converter with a
manual granny underdrive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynaflow); thus
"slushbox" to denote the coupling didn't involve gears. If you know of
things today that uses such an arrangement, please enlighten me. Even manual
trannies are lubricated, so having liquid in the gearbox isn't the issue.
Almost anything built in the last decade uses a lockup torque converter so
fluid coupling isn't normally going on there - the torque converter is
mostly a clutch.

Then there was Renault's powdered iron magnetic clutch on the electrically
shifted manual tranny to make it fully automatic, back in the '60s... as dry
as any manual tranny :-)

Mike





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Default Re: Question re first 3 month service - 05-16-2007 , 06:06 PM





Michael Pardee wrote:
Quote:
isquat (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1179302752.470075.82110 (AT) e65g2000hsc (DOT) googlegroups.com...

On May 8, 4:14 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn... (AT) cybertrails (DOT) com
wrote:
,

ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same
as
modern manual transmissions

really??? I thought DSG is only found on certain VWs and even those
are far in between. Are you referring to the DSG clone in the upcoming
evo?
That car hasn't even been released to reviewers let alone the driving
public yet. Would you please be specific which technological
marvels you are referring to? found in which cars, specifically?
we're not marketing here and don't like things to me left to
imagination



"Slushboxes" were non-geared trannies. The venerable Dynaflow - the tranny
that gave rise to the term - was a fluid coupled torque converter with a
manual granny underdrive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynaflow); thus
"slushbox" to denote the coupling didn't involve gears. If you know of
things today that uses such an arrangement, please enlighten me. Even manual
trannies are lubricated, so having liquid in the gearbox isn't the issue.
Almost anything built in the last decade uses a lockup torque converter so
fluid coupling isn't normally going on there - the torque converter is
mostly a clutch.

Then there was Renault's powdered iron magnetic clutch on the electrically
shifted manual tranny to make it fully automatic, back in the '60s... as dry
as any manual tranny :-)

Mike


I believe that Studebaker was the pioneer with regards to lock up
converters with the Automatic Drive introduced in 1950.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_Drive


JT



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Default Re: Question re first 3 month service - 05-17-2007 , 03:04 AM



On May 16, 12:09 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn... (AT) cybertrails (DOT) com>
wrote:
Quote:
isq... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message

news:1179302752.470075.82110 (AT) e65g2000hsc (DOT) googlegroups.com...

On May 8, 4:14 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn... (AT) cybertrails (DOT) com
wrote:
,
ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same
as
modern manual transmissions

really??? I thought DSG is only found on certain VWs and even those
are far in between. Are you referring to the DSG clone in the upcoming
evo?
That car hasn't even been released to reviewers let alone the driving
public yet. Would you please be specific which technological
marvels you are referring to? found in which cars, specifically?
we're not marketing here and don't like things to me left to
imagination

"Slushboxes" were non-geared trannies. The venerable Dynaflow - the tranny
that gave rise to the term - was a fluid coupled torque converter with a
manual granny underdrive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynaflow);thus
"slushbox" to denote the coupling didn't involve gears. If you know of
things today that uses such an arrangement, please enlighten me. Even manual
trannies are lubricated, so having liquid in the gearbox isn't the issue.
Almost anything built in the last decade uses a lockup torque converter so
fluid coupling isn't normally going on there - the torque converter is
mostly a clutch.

Then there was Renault's powdered iron magnetic clutch on the electrically
shifted manual tranny to make it fully automatic, back in the '60s... as dry
as any manual tranny :-)
i think you would've made one helluva flesh eating lawyer,
or at least some kind of a politician, did anyone tell you that
before?



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Marcia M
 
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Default Re: Question re first 3 month service - 05-17-2007 , 09:50 PM



I am a Service Advisor in a Honda dealership..We advise on the newer
vehicles to watch your oil life...at 15% you should call for a Service
appointment.This is by American Honda Standards.There are two schedules
for maintence for Honda Vehicles one for the older and one for the newer
vehicles..if you dont put a lot of miles on a new vehicle an oil change
should be done in at least 6 months..The older 3 months or 3,000
miles...We don't want to make any extra money off of you , we make our
money off of people who DON'T take care of their cars.


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Michael Pardee
 
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Default Re: Question re first 3 month service - 05-17-2007 , 11:20 PM



<isquat (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
On May 16, 12:09 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn... (AT) cybertrails (DOT) com
wrote:

i think you would've made one helluva flesh eating lawyer,
or at least some kind of a politician, did anyone tell you that
before?


Sorry... engineer, not lawyer. I do get wound up in pointless discussions,
though :-}

Mike





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Default Re: Question re first 3 month service - 05-18-2007 , 10:50 AM





Michael Pardee wrote:
Quote:
isquat (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1179389076.318197.130640 (AT) o5g2000hsb (DOT) googlegroups.com...

On May 16, 12:09 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn... (AT) cybertrails (DOT) com
wrote:

i think you would've made one helluva flesh eating lawyer,
or at least some kind of a politician, did anyone tell you that
before?



Sorry... engineer, not lawyer. I do get wound up in pointless discussions,
though :-}

Mike



Heh... Engineers often can be held in contempt too!

Don'tcha think that them thar' guys that design things, (and the process
guys that follow), where you hafta take apart half the car to replace an
alternator whould be tied spread eagled across a Texas fire ant mound maybe?

<G>

JT

(A retired process engineer (mfg) who tried to minimize product service
issues)


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Default Re: Question re first 3 month service - 05-21-2007 , 08:09 AM



On May 17, 10:50 pm, Dancing_Feathe... (AT) webtv (DOT) net (Marcia M) wrote:
Quote:
I am a Service Advisor in a Honda dealership..We advise on the newer
vehicles to watch your oil life...at 15% you should call for a Service
appointment.This is by American Honda Standards.There are two schedules
for maintence for Honda Vehicles one for the older and one for the newer
vehicles..if you dont put a lot of miles on a new vehicle an oil change
should be done in at least 6 months..The older 3 months or 3,000
miles...We don't want to make any extra money off of you , we make our
money off of people who DON'T take care of their cars.
The little wrench in my Odyssey lit up the other day, when the oil
life indicator turned to 15%, so you're right on, Marcia! Time for the
oil change, I guess.....

Dan D
'07 Ody EX
Central NJ USA



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