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Re: Honda airbags that impale you with shards of metal
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Re: Honda airbags that impale you with shards of metal -
10-16-2009
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blythe b wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/31/honda.recall/index.html Maybe you should Shut your eyes upon impact? ;-) Also, remember to put your hands at 9:00 and 3:00. If you put your hands at the old 10-2 and the airbag fires off it has happened that the driver's thumbs were broken! |
from the wheel.
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Hands now go at 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock if you drive with airbags. |
Although I have always driven my race cars "hands on" because you can
"lose" them. Now I drive my Fit that way at speeds greater than about
6 mph to keep the fingers on the paddles.
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| I was told that insurance companies up here have mixed feelings about airbags. Bags are very expensive to replace after a collision, and there's often collateral damage when the bags break windshields and damage interiors, plus they cause a lot of minor (and sometimes not so minor) injuries when they deploy. All that's very expensive for the insurance companies. Up here there are neither rewards for having airbags nor penalties for disabling them. |
One of my son's friends ran into a parked car...not much body damage,
but the bags on both sides deployed. The insurance co. totalled the
car based on the cost of replacing the airbags, the windshield, as
well as the body damage.
I saw the car...would have been an easy fix as far as the actual crash
damage...oh, well...
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My wife's low speed accident resulted in some surprising structural damage, but a goodly chunk went to replacing the bags, seatbelts, pretnesioners and front windshield, which was totalled on the pax side but not the driver's side, which the body shop said is quite typical of airbag deployment. |
(this is also a reply to J.L.Hemmer's post)
There are a couple of wrecking yards not far from my house. I regularly see
trailers loaded with late-model wrecked cars going there.
What I've noticed the last ten years or so is that most of those late-model
cars being taken to the wreckers appear to have very little body damage, at
least much less body damage than what I used to see in years past.
I wonder if the cost of fixing SRS systems is resulting in far more
vehicles being "totalled" with damage that would have been considered
relatively cheap to repair before airbags came along?
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Tegger
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:7k6fl9F3910cjU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net: Tegger wrote: A new vehicle cannot be imported into the US without a present and functioning SRS system. It isnt technically a new vehicle if it was bought in Canada. OK, then let me be more precise: A vehicle manufactured after about 1988 (not certain of exact year) for the non-US market may not be imported into the US for the purpose of US registration without a complete and functioning SRS system. |
requirements present at the time of its manufactor. If a car is being
brought into the US "for off-road use only", a bond has to be posted.
Mssrs Gates, Leno and Ellison have multiple cars that fall under this
law, as do/did every Formula One team.
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Patrick Swayze, now there was talent
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John David Galt <jdg (AT) diogenes (DOT) sacramento.ca.us> wrote in news:hbl9t3$ic7$1 (AT) blue (DOT) rahul.net: Dave D wrote: In a word. NO! While it is not illegal to remove the bombs in Canada, it is in the US, I believe, and I am sure that California, based on that state's past record, will not register such a modified car....I would check the laws in Ca and the Feds before doing such. In the US you can get federal permission to disable airbags; I'm not sure what the requirements are or whether they've even been formalized. This is technically correct. The last I read, permission must be obtained in writing from the NHTSA. Permission is predicated upon the presence of some definite and specific factor that would, in the opinion of the NHTSA's bureacrats, place the applicant in some special danger from airbags that ordinary people would not face. These factors would include advanced age, unusually small adult body size, or some sort of physical infirmity, such as advanced osteoporosis. I imagine the number of officially-permitted SRS disablements must be vanishingly tiny. |
Miata. Miata provided a "disable" switch, which was approved by DOT.
He had to start the car, press the button and then she could get in.
And the disable was switched off whenever he turned off the ignition.
I think many cars with only a front row were equipped with this prior
to the weight disabler.
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- dillon I am not invalid
Patrick Swayze, now there was talent
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Thus spake Tegger <invalid (AT) invalid (DOT) inv> : I imagine the number of officially-permitted SRS disablements must be vanishingly tiny. I have a friend who was driving his 6 year old daughter in his 95 Miata. Miata provided a "disable" switch, which was approved by DOT. He had to start the car, press the button and then she could get in. And the disable was switched off whenever he turned off the ignition. I think many cars with only a front row were equipped with this prior to the weight disabler. |
Regular-cab pickups had the same thing.
Here's the text of an article by Car and Driver's Patrick Bedard on that
subject:
<http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26327>
The actual article was up on C and D's site until very recently, but it
seems to be gone now. This is all I can find.
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Tegger <invalid (AT) invalid (DOT) inv> wrote in news:Xns9CA5E7F826F79tegger (AT) 208 (DOT) 90.168.18: blythe b <mbowman155 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:8e13a836-cfb6-4fb4-a6c0- 24e9291e3b81 (AT) l2g2000yqd (DOT) googlegroups.com: http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/31/honda.recall/index.html The USA remains the only country in the world that has a wacky legal requirement that bombs be installed in car's interior, aimed directly at the occupants. A bit dramatic, don't you think? They also require a highly flammable liquid to be put in a tank in the back... gallons of it!! Oh the humanity! |
of ignition.
And, contrary to the movies, gasoline is actually a little hard to set
off. Yes, match. No, cigarette. No, bullet.
Air bags have been confirmed to have killed stupid mechanics, car
theives and junk yard scroungers. Note the word "stupid".
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- dillon I am not invalid
"Always shoot first. At the very least you'll
distract the guy enough to make the second one count"
-- Lazurus Long
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