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Default Re: TOTAL Loss of Oil: Car is OK...for now, anyway - 04-17-2007 , 08:41 PM






On 17 Apr 2007 10:58:21 -0700, Thom <thomcasey (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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There isnt anything wqrong with Lucas additives. Racers trust them in
their mega expensive motors, it will be fine in yours. It works great
in older engines, as does the Tranny additive. 16oz of tranny
additive got me an extra 40K out of my F150, though I wouldnt try it
in a HOnda tranny, it is guaranteed.

I hear what you're saying, I'm just too scared to be experimental at
the moment. Staring at 4 litres of fresh oil all over your garage
floor is sort of like "Apocalypse Now"....it's enough to give one a
bad case of post-traumatic stress syndrome. On an affirmative note,
though, I have tried the Lucas fuel injection additive (upper cylinder
cleaner) in my '92 accord and LOVED it. What a difference, both in
terms of power and stability. - Paul S.






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Joe LaVigne
 
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Default Re: TOTAL Loss of Oil: Car is OK...for now, anyway - 04-17-2007 , 11:48 PM






Paul S wrote:

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:17:01 -0500, Gordon McGrew
RgEmMcOgVrEew (AT) mindspring (DOT) com> wrote:


Also, check the oil level at each fill-up for a while. If it doesn't
burn any then it is OK, though I have to think you took a few thousand
miles off its life with this adventure.

That is my fear as well....some sort of subtle damage that may not be
overtly or immediately apparent, but which nevertheless could come
back to haunt later on. I did drive the car (an '04 Accord LX) up to
the local DIY carwash tonight, and it really seemed fine as long as it
was moving. While idling in the driveway, though, my wife and I
noticed what sounded like a slight, intermittent metallic "squeal",
although it could just be my paranoid imagination. Later on (after the
car had warmed up) I didn't hear it anymore. Personally, I really
don't feel the quality of this '04 is relatively as good as it was
even in my '92 accord, even though the '04 is more comfortable. The
newer Hondas just seem cheaper and cheaper every year, and sometimes I
think of jumping ship and trying a Toyota next time around. But since
I'm only at 30,000 miles right now, I hopefully won't have to worry
about that any time soon. - Paul S.
If you were hearing a squeal, you may very well have gotten oil on the belt.
It might be worthwhile to replace it if it continues.

As for the quality, my opinion is the opposite. I always stayed away from
Hondas and Toyotas in the past, because while they had a good reputation,
they felt very cheap to me. Very lightweight, and many were just cheap
looking.

The new ones seem to have maintained exceptional quality in the engine
components, while also beefing up the car to feel more sound. Note: The
old ones may have been sound, but they didn't look or feel it to me, and
that matters.

Also, the older ones seemed to rust pretty quickly in my northern climate
(Buffalo, NY) from the salt, etc. I have seen very few Hondas or Toyotas
from 2000+ that were showing any appreciable rust, unless they had been in
a crash.



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Default Re: TOTAL Loss of Oil: Car is OK...for now, anyway - 04-18-2007 , 06:17 AM



I am using AMSOIL XL7500 Oil, and Honda Filters. The filters are about
$4-$6.

G-Man


"Paul S" <pauls (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:10:06 -0400, "G-Man" <g_foreman (AT) yahoo (DOT) com
wrote:

Paul,

If it were me, after the next oil change after a 3K+ run, I'd send a
sample
to:

http://www.blackstone-labs.com

They will tell you how the engine is doing. I use their service. I only
change my oil avery 7,500 miles, but I use Full Synthetic rated for that
mileage.

They will send you a free kit to collect and mail the sample.

G-Man

Thanks, G-Man.....I will definitely try that service. Very glad to
konw about it. I'm running full synthetic now in my '04, though of
course it may not be "full" at all (Mobil-1 5W-20). I'm thinking of
trying Mobil's Extended Performance synthetic so I can go longer
between changes, like maybe 5,000 miles instead of 3,000.

Just curious....what brand and type of oil are you using? Also, what
brand of oil filter? I'd love to go 7,500 between oil changes if I
could. Just ordered an Amsoil oil filter today....at $16 bucks apiece,
this one will break the bank in short order if I have to keep changing
every 3,000 miles. - Paul.





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Michael Pardee
 
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Default Re: TOTAL Loss of Oil: Car is OK...for now, anyway - 04-18-2007 , 07:59 AM



"Thom" <thomcasey (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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There isnt anything wqrong with Lucas additives. Racers trust them in
their mega expensive motors, it will be fine in yours. It works great
in older engines, as does the Tranny additive. 16oz of tranny
additive got me an extra 40K out of my F150, though I wouldnt try it
in a HOnda tranny, it is guaranteed.

Lucas isn't ablte to sponsor an NFL Stadium because he sells junk.
They have been selling in the US forever.


I've had great results with Lucas auto tranny additive in a 20 year old
Volvo but haven't tried any oil additives.

Lucas has a spotty reputation in hardware, though. The tale that Brits drink
warm beer because they have Lucas refrigerators is still good for a chuckle.
Having had a British Leyland car with Lucas electrics I can relate!

Mike





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Paul S
 
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Default Re: TOTAL Loss of Oil: Car is OK...for now, anyway - 04-18-2007 , 09:54 AM




Hi - That's the second time someone has advised me to think about
changing the belts post my oil mishap. I'll at least have my mechanic
check the existing ones, and I'll certainly replace if necessary.
Regarding the quality issue, I have been in the western Toronto area
for three years with both my '92 and '04 accords, and have had a
thorough anti-rust oil spray on both vehicles every fall...so far with
no problems. Of course, you are only ninety minutes south of here but
you guys get a LOT more snow with that menacing lake just to the
north. Anyway, I'm glad to hear you affirm the quality of the newer
cars - that makes me feel a bit better about my '04. - Paul

Quote:
If you were hearing a squeal, you may very well have gotten oil on the belt.
It might be worthwhile to replace it if it continues.

As for the quality, my opinion is the opposite. I always stayed away from
Hondas and Toyotas in the past, because while they had a good reputation,
they felt very cheap to me. Very lightweight, and many were just cheap
looking.

The new ones seem to have maintained exceptional quality in the engine
components, while also beefing up the car to feel more sound. Note: The
old ones may have been sound, but they didn't look or feel it to me, and
that matters.

Also, the older ones seemed to rust pretty quickly in my northern climate
(Buffalo, NY) from the salt, etc. I have seen very few Hondas or Toyotas
from 2000+ that were showing any appreciable rust, unless they had been in
a crash.



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Paul S
 
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Default Re: TOTAL Loss of Oil: Car is OK...for now, anyway - 04-18-2007 , 10:00 AM



On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:17:07 -0400, "G-Man" <g_foreman (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:
I am using AMSOIL XL7500 Oil, and Honda Filters. The filters are about
$4-$6.

G-Man
One more question, G-Man...would it be OK to use the Amsoil synthetic
on my '92 accord, or should I stay with dino? I've heard about the
possibility of seals leaking with full synthetics on older vehicles,
and I had the cam seals on this car replaced a few months ago due to
leaks so I just want to make sure. Thanks. - Paul




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Paul S
 
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Default Re: TOTAL Loss of Oil: Car is OK...for now, anyway - 04-18-2007 , 10:07 AM




On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 05:59:03 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull (AT) cybertrails (DOT) com> wrote:

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"Thom" <thomcasey (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1176832701.700244.96830 (AT) q75g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com...
There isnt anything wqrong with Lucas additives. Racers trust them in
their mega expensive motors, it will be fine in yours. It works great
in older engines, as does the Tranny additive. 16oz of tranny
additive got me an extra 40K out of my F150, though I wouldnt try it
in a HOnda tranny, it is guaranteed.

Lucas isn't ablte to sponsor an NFL Stadium because he sells junk.
They have been selling in the US forever.


I've had great results with Lucas auto tranny additive in a 20 year old
Volvo but haven't tried any oil additives.

Lucas has a spotty reputation in hardware, though. The tale that Brits drink
warm beer because they have Lucas refrigerators is still good for a chuckle.
Having had a British Leyland car with Lucas electrics I can relate!

Mike
Interesting. My '92 accord has that "zone" thing with the
transmission, where it just seems to get stuck and delay shifting. So
I thought about using the lucas transmission fix but am still learning
more at this point. Do you happen to know anything about the "Auto RX"
tranny fix? Trying to determine if it's really helpful or just a bunch
of hype. If I knew for sure it was safe I might try it. Thanks. -
Paul.





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John Horner
 
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Default Re: TOTAL Loss of Oil: Car is OK...for now, anyway - 04-18-2007 , 10:14 AM



Paul S wrote:
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I hope this is OK, but I also added about 16 ounces of Lucas
synthtetic oil stabilizer.
Use a quality oil and stay away from the snake oil additives.



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G-Man
 
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Default Re: TOTAL Loss of Oil: Car is OK...for now, anyway - 04-18-2007 , 10:15 AM



It won't cause leaks. BUT, if you have a leak, it will be worse with the
Synthetic.

I'm using it in my '96 with 185k on it. No leaks!

I have a lot of Hondas,
06 EX-V6 NAV (mine)
06 EX-V6 6-Spd (#2 sons)
05 Pilot (wifes)
05 Accord LX 4-Cyl (#1 sons)
'95 Accord LX 4-Cyl (mine too!)

All are using synthetic. I do all the std. maintenance myself. About the
only thing I let someone else do is timing belt and water pump. I could
probaby do it, but it takes time.

G-Man

"Paul S" <pauls (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:17:07 -0400, "G-Man" <g_foreman (AT) yahoo (DOT) com
wrote:

I am using AMSOIL XL7500 Oil, and Honda Filters. The filters are about
$4-$6.

G-Man

One more question, G-Man...would it be OK to use the Amsoil synthetic
on my '92 accord, or should I stay with dino? I've heard about the
possibility of seals leaking with full synthetics on older vehicles,
and I had the cam seals on this car replaced a few months ago due to
leaks so I just want to make sure. Thanks. - Paul





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Paul S
 
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Default Re: TOTAL Loss of Oil: Car is OK...for now, anyway - 04-18-2007 , 10:45 AM



On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:14:56 GMT, John Horner <jthorner (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:
Paul S wrote:

I hope this is OK, but I also added about 16 ounces of Lucas
synthtetic oil stabilizer.

Use a quality oil and stay away from the snake oil additives.

"snake" oil additives.....very amusing. - Paul



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