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Default Re: Rear wiper on a sedan? - 10-23-2009 , 08:37 PM






Tegger wrote:
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HE's not dangerous, he's implying that YOU are.
That is a falsehood.

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And if you're using your side-view mirrors as rear-view mirrors, then
you've got them aimed wrongly.
There is nothing incorrect in the way in which I have my side mirrors
aimed. It only takes a bit of movement of my head to view everything
from curb to curb and to the rear in my mirrors. I have been driving
heavy trucks for decades and not one of them had a rear view mirror (or
window), no issues in any regards in those vehicles or smaller vehicles.

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Default Re: Rear wiper on a sedan? - 10-23-2009 , 08:40 PM






Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
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Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view mirror
is to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to rear end
you. In either case, there won't be much that you can do about it.
In both of those scenarios you mention, the side mirrors will show you
the vehicle approaching yours.

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I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent information.
They (when adjusted properly) give the driver 100% of the view behind
and to both sides of his vehicle.

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Default Re: Rear wiper on a sedan? - 10-23-2009 , 09:14 PM



"Brian Smith" <Halifax (AT) NovaScotia (DOT) Canada> wrote

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thomas wrote:

Blimey - don't you drive ?

I've been driving for almost forty years. I have never had a need to
look out the rear window of any vehicle I have driven over the
years. Side mirrors are far more accurate to use to keep track of
what is going on around any vehicle.
I've been driving for 35 years, and I'll never say never.

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Default Re: Rear wiper on a sedan? - 10-23-2009 , 09:16 PM



Brian Smith <Halifax (AT) NovaScotia (DOT) Canada> wrote in
news:hbti52$361$1 (AT) news (DOT) datemas.de:

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Tegger wrote:

HE's not dangerous, he's implying that YOU are.

That is a falsehood.


You said:
"Why are you dangerous?"
As posted, your question requested him to explain his dangerousness.
Nothing in the thread said anything about his behavior one way or the
other.

If you had instead punctuated your sentence this way:
"Why? Are you dangerous?"
that would have made more sense in the context of the thread.


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And if you're using your side-view mirrors as rear-view mirrors, then
you've got them aimed wrongly.

There is nothing incorrect in the way in which I have my side
mirrors aimed. It only takes a bit of movement of my head to view
everything from curb to curb and to the rear in my mirrors. I have
been driving heavy trucks for decades and not one of them had a rear
view mirror (or window), no issues in any regards in those vehicles or
smaller vehicles.


A heavy truck is not the same as a passenger car. A heavy truck's
mirrors are much larger, for one thing, and for another it's impossible
to provide a rear window in a 53' trailer (or in a sleeper-cab tractor).
Plus trucks cannot perform the sort of sudden maneuvers that cars can.

Passenger-car side mirrors are meant to be aimed into the side blind-spots
not covered by your forward peripheral vision or by the rear-view
mirror.
Here's a pretty good explanation of passenger-car side-view-mirror
aiming I found using Google:
<http://www.linquist.net/motorsports/tech/mirrors/>


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Default Re: Rear wiper on a sedan? - 10-23-2009 , 09:36 PM



Brian Smith <Halifax (AT) NovaScotia (DOT) Canada> wrote in
news:hbti9c$j9$2 (AT) news (DOT) datemas.de:

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Grumpy AuContraire wrote:

Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view
mirror is to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to
rear end you. In either case, there won't be much that you can do
about it.

In both of those scenarios you mention, the side mirrors will
show you the vehicle approaching yours.

I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent
information.

They (when adjusted properly) give the driver 100% of the view
behind and to both sides of his vehicle.


Passenger-car side mirrors are /far/ too small to provide a proper all-over
view. Heavy-truck side-view mirrows are much larger.

For work I frequently travel with sufficient cargo as to be unable to see
out the rear window of my Integra. My right-side mirror is -- trust me on
this -- wholly inadequate for anything close to complete comprehension of
the surrounding traffic.

I find myself changing lanes on the highway a bit the way a transport
driver does: Signal first, then wait a bit so I'm pretty sure everybody
sees it. As the signal flashes, I bob and weave about in my seat, studying
in detail the view out my tiny right-side mirror. Nobody apparently there?
Signal still on, I /slowly/ begin my lane change, waiting for a horn honk.
No horn honk? Then it's probably safe. I continue moving over. I've been
pretty careful over the last 18 years; only one horn-honk.


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Default Re: Rear wiper on a sedan? - 10-24-2009 , 07:25 AM



Tegger wrote:
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A heavy truck is not the same as a passenger car. A heavy truck's
mirrors are much larger, for one thing, and for another it's impossible
to provide a rear window in a 53' trailer (or in a sleeper-cab tractor).
Plus trucks cannot perform the sort of sudden maneuvers that cars can.
Trucks sometimes have to perform sudden maneuvers to avoid the idiots
that don't know how to operate their cars safely.

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Passenger-car side mirrors are meant to be aimed into the side blind-spots
not covered by your forward peripheral vision or by the rear-view
mirror.
Here's a pretty good explanation of passenger-car side-view-mirror
aiming I found using Google:
http://www.linquist.net/motorsports/tech/mirrors/
Side mirrors are the way to go when keeping track of what is going on
around your vehicle. That's the bottom line and people should be open to
learning more from the other's personal experience gained over the years.

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Default Re: Rear wiper on a sedan? - 10-24-2009 , 07:29 AM



Tegger wrote:
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Passenger-car side mirrors are /far/ too small to provide a proper all-over
view. Heavy-truck side-view mirrows are much larger.
I disagree on the first part of this paragraph and agree with the
second portion.

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For work I frequently travel with sufficient cargo as to be unable to see
out the rear window of my Integra. My right-side mirror is -- trust me on
this -- wholly inadequate for anything close to complete comprehension of
the surrounding traffic.
If you adjust your right side mirror properly, you will see that you
are able to see properly.

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I find myself changing lanes on the highway a bit the way a transport
driver does: Signal first, then wait a bit so I'm pretty sure everybody
sees it. As the signal flashes, I bob and weave about in my seat, studying
in detail the view out my tiny right-side mirror. Nobody apparently there?
Signal still on, I /slowly/ begin my lane change, waiting for a horn honk.
No horn honk? Then it's probably safe. I continue moving over. I've been
pretty careful over the last 18 years; only one horn-honk.
What you have described here is the proper (and legal) way to initiate
and safely complete a lane change. Congratulations, you are one a very
few drivers on the road that know how to do that one maneuver.

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Default Re: Rear wiper on a sedan? - 10-24-2009 , 07:31 AM



Stewart wrote:
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I've been driving for 35 years, and I'll never say never.
I did say "have never had", I can't see a need in the future to look at
the rear window either.

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Default Re: Rear wiper on a sedan? - 10-24-2009 , 12:00 PM



"Tegger" <invalid (AT) invalid (DOT) inv> wrote

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Such a thing actually exists. And I took a picture of it.

http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/skyline_wiper.jpg

This Nissan Skyline of unknown vintage lives across the street from where
I
work, and I discovered it just last week. What a cool car. I always
wondered why Nissan never sold it in Canada or the US.

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Often wondered too. When I was stationed in Japan in 1967-69, the Skyline
2000 was a great sports sedan with a 2.0 liter SOHC I6 with a 5 speed. The
versions I recall came with the dual Solex copy of the Weber carb with a
dual exhaust. They ran like stink and handled. The car was originally made
by the Prince Motor Car Co which was bought out by Datsun (Nissan). I used
to autocross against them with a modified Sunbean Tiger in Tokyo Sports Car
Club. I have a picture somewhere of the Skyline back then with the hood
open.

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Default Re: Rear wiper on a sedan? - 10-24-2009 , 12:17 PM



Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
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You are clearly trolling with this.
Not in the least, this practice has been proven over the years.

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