What's the great mystery about the Accord A/C Filter?

#1

The manual for my newly acquired '99 Accord describes replacing every
maintenance item but directs an owner to have Honda only replace the
A/C (ventilation) filter: Why?

Is it a situation like the Alfa 105series heater core: They laid that
one part down and built the car around it?

TIA

#2

Harold Adrain Russell Philby wrote:

Quote:

The manual for my newly acquired '99 Accord describes replacing every
maintenance item but directs an owner to have Honda only replace the
A/C (ventilation) filter: Why?

Is it a situation like the Alfa 105series heater core: They laid that
one part down and built the car around it?

TIA

--------------------

Read the post above about 'Odyssey A/C filter'

Same drill, basically. Do a google search and you'll find the full
directions.

'Curly'

#3

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 09:57:44 -0700, "motsco_ _" <"motsco_
_"@interbaun.com> wrote:

Quote:

Harold Adrain Russell Philby wrote:
The manual for my newly acquired '99 Accord describes replacing every
maintenance item but directs an owner to have Honda only replace the
A/C (ventilation) filter: Why?

Is it a situation like the Alfa 105series heater core: They laid that
one part down and built the car around it?

Read the post above about 'Odyssey A/C filter'

Same drill, basically. Do a google search and you'll find the full
directions.

Thanks, got it.

....Looks like I was right after all.

Looks like a three hour job? (Any idea what the Honda book rate night
be?)

After reviewing the manual it appears *every* other consumable in this
car can be serviced and maintained by a monkey with strong
fingernails: Do you have any idea why Honda made the servicing of
that one particular part so onerous?

....Perhaps a corporate pettifogger with a distorted understanding of
product liability?

#4

On 12/10/04 2:28 PM, in article 6q0kr0l2iipie91pnvnne29n84692k23m9 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com,
"Harold Adrian Russell Philby" <home.office (AT) kremlin (DOT) co.ru> wrote:

Quote:

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 09:57:44 -0700, "motsco_ _" <"motsco_
_"@interbaun.com> wrote:
Harold Adrain Russell Philby wrote:
The manual for my newly acquired '99 Accord describes replacing every
maintenance item but directs an owner to have Honda only replace the
A/C (ventilation) filter: Why?

Is it a situation like the Alfa 105series heater core: They laid that
one part down and built the car around it?

Read the post above about 'Odyssey A/C filter'

Same drill, basically. Do a google search and you'll find the full
directions.

Thanks, got it.

...Looks like I was right after all.

Looks like a three hour job? (Any idea what the Honda book rate night
be?)

After reviewing the manual it appears *every* other consumable in this
car can be serviced and maintained by a monkey with strong
fingernails: Do you have any idea why Honda made the servicing of
that one particular part so onerous?

...Perhaps a corporate pettifogger with a distorted understanding of
product liability?

Not sure what the "book" rate for it might be. But after doing it a couple
of times on my '00 TL, I can say that you have to take a beer break in the
middle of the job to stretch it to a half hour.

#5

E. Meyer wrote:

Quote:

Not sure what the "book" rate for it might be. But after doing it a couple
of times on my '00 TL, I can say that you have to take a beer break in the
middle of the job to stretch it to a half hour.

Standard practice in this man's garage...

;0)

a

#6

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 23:57:08 GMT, "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer (AT) ieee (DOT) org>
wrote:

Quote:

On 12/10/04 2:28 PM, in article 6q0kr0l2iipie91pnvnne29n84692k23m9 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com,
"Harold Adrian Russell Philby" <home.office (AT) kremlin (DOT) co.ru> wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 09:57:44 -0700, "motsco_ _" <"motsco_
_"@interbaun.com> wrote:
Harold Adrain Russell Philby wrote:
The manual for my newly acquired '99 Accord describes replacing every
maintenance item but directs an owner to have Honda only replace the
A/C (ventilation) filter: Why?

Is it a situation like the Alfa 105series heater core: They laid that
one part down and built the car around it?

Read the post above about 'Odyssey A/C filter'

Same drill, basically. Do a google search and you'll find the full
directions.

Thanks, got it.

...Looks like I was right after all.

Looks like a three hour job? (Any idea what the Honda book rate night
be?)

After reviewing the manual it appears *every* other consumable in this
car can be serviced and maintained by a monkey with strong
fingernails: Do you have any idea why Honda made the servicing of
that one particular part so onerous?

...Perhaps a corporate pettifogger with a distorted understanding of
product liability?

Not sure what the "book" rate for it might be. But after doing it a couple
of times on my '00 TL, I can say that you have to take a beer break in the
middle of the job to stretch it to a half hour.

Looking at http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=43307 it
appears it will take a half-hour just to label all the screws...

What's your tip?

#7

On 12/11/04 9:22 AM, in article d34mr0tpdebmc2otdn7f0kolf8lsuam56n (AT) 4ax (DOT) com,
"Harold Adrian Russell Philby" <home.office (AT) kremlin (DOT) co.ru> wrote:

Quote:

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 23:57:08 GMT, "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer (AT) ieee (DOT) org
wrote:
On 12/10/04 2:28 PM, in article 6q0kr0l2iipie91pnvnne29n84692k23m9 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com,
"Harold Adrian Russell Philby" <home.office (AT) kremlin (DOT) co.ru> wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 09:57:44 -0700, "motsco_ _" <"motsco_
_"@interbaun.com> wrote:
Harold Adrain Russell Philby wrote:
The manual for my newly acquired '99 Accord describes replacing every
maintenance item but directs an owner to have Honda only replace the
A/C (ventilation) filter: Why?

Is it a situation like the Alfa 105series heater core: They laid that
one part down and built the car around it?

Read the post above about 'Odyssey A/C filter'

Same drill, basically. Do a google search and you'll find the full
directions.

Thanks, got it.

...Looks like I was right after all.

Looks like a three hour job? (Any idea what the Honda book rate night
be?)

After reviewing the manual it appears *every* other consumable in this
car can be serviced and maintained by a monkey with strong
fingernails: Do you have any idea why Honda made the servicing of
that one particular part so onerous?

...Perhaps a corporate pettifogger with a distorted understanding of
product liability?

Not sure what the "book" rate for it might be. But after doing it a couple
of times on my '00 TL, I can say that you have to take a beer break in the
middle of the job to stretch it to a half hour.

Looking at http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=43307 it
appears it will take a half-hour just to label all the screws...

What's your tip?

Those pictures show how to take that whole side of the dash off. All you

have to do (at least on the TL of the same generation) is take out the glove
box itself - one screw in the damper piston on the right side, two on the
bottom holding the hinges, and the stoppers on the sides of the box slide
forward and pop out.

#8

"Harold Adrian Russell Philby" <home.office (AT) kremlin (DOT) co.ru> wrote

Quote:

Looks like a three hour job? (Any idea what the Honda book rate night
be?)

The dealer that I deal with charges .5 hour for the job. Well worth it in my
opinion.

Brian

#9

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 20:28:14 GMT, Harold Adrian Russell Philby
<home.office (AT) kremlin (DOT) co.ru> wrote:

Quote:

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 09:57:44 -0700, "motsco_ _" <"motsco_
_"@interbaun.com> wrote:
Harold Adrain Russell Philby wrote:
The manual for my newly acquired '99 Accord describes replacing every
maintenance item but directs an owner to have Honda only replace the
A/C (ventilation) filter: Why?

Is it a situation like the Alfa 105series heater core: They laid that
one part down and built the car around it?

Read the post above about 'Odyssey A/C filter'

Same drill, basically. Do a google search and you'll find the full
directions.

Thanks, got it.

...Looks like I was right after all.

Looks like a three hour job? (Any idea what the Honda book rate night
be?)

After reviewing the manual it appears *every* other consumable in this
car can be serviced and maintained by a monkey with strong
fingernails: Do you have any idea why Honda made the servicing of
that one particular part so onerous?

...Perhaps a corporate pettifogger with a distorted understanding of
product liability?

it's a 10 minute job at best.
Chip

#10

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop (AT) nastydesigns (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

For years, we did without. Mercedes started using them in the mid-80's
as a marketing-luxury thing. Now it's a necessity?

Take it out and leave it out, I say.

At least one manufacturer discovered the hard way they were necessary, under

some conditions. Volvo introduced the 850 model in 1992 (IIRC) and soon had
serious reliability problems. A/C evaporators were failing at an astonishing
rate, with pinholes appearing in them. At about $2000 to replace the
evaporator, customers were becoming disgruntled. It was also costing a
fortune in warranty repairs, so something had to be done. The cause was
traced to normal condensation on the evaporator turning pollen and dust into
a paste that caused cavities in the evaporator. Adding a pollen filter cured
the problem.

Mike

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