2007 Camry is an Accord Killer

#11

High Tech Misfit wrote:

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Art wrote:

From what I've read the Accord in '07 won't be much different than the
current model. Seems like Honda's best engineers were working the Civic,
minivan, and pickup truck.

Honda just gave the Accord a minor restyling for '06. Since the current
Accord came out for 2003, expect the next version for 2008.

yup. i like the new taillights. less asian looking.

#12

SoCalMike wrote:

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Honda just gave the Accord a minor restyling for '06. Since the
current Accord came out for 2003, expect the next version for 2008.

yup. i like the new taillights. less asian looking.

IMO, the new tail alone makes the '06 look much better than the '03-'05.

#13

"SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Art wrote:
From what I've read the Accord in '07 won't be much different than the
current model. Seems like Honda's best engineers were working the Civic,
minivan, and pickup truck.

the civic looks much improved, the minivan is equalled only byt he sienna,
and the "truck"...? well, 2 out of 3 aint bad!

has a ridgeline run at baja yet?

Yup, and was doing very well until about half way when the poorly chosen
tires gave out. Two Ridgelines were very near stock, had minimal
preparation, mostly to the safety regs of the race.

Regardless of the nay sayers and nit pickers, the Ridgeline is a truck and a
very good one in its class.

--
Kent Finnell
From the Music City USA

#14

"Regardless of the nay sayers and nit pickers, the Ridgeline is a truck
and a
very good one in its class."

Come on Kent; the Ridgeline is the perfect truck for people who need a
Civic. A load in the bed obstructs access to the spare, its V6 gets
similar fuel economy to GM's new V8s and it isn't cheap. No wonder
sales are barely meeting goal. Had Honda brought this thing to market 3
or 4 years ago it would have been a winner. Today, it's another
Element.

But regarding the next generation Accord - I expect some major platform
changes including an AWD option (probably starting with the Accord's
platform mate the Acura TL). Like the Camry, I expect the Accord to
grow in size a little. I'd sure like to see Honda offer a head's up
display. One of my cars has that and it works great. Honda's cloth
seats could stand some major improvement, too. A fully reclining
passenger seat with flip-up leg support (like the optional BMW seats)
would be nice.

#15

"All of this assumes you are looking for tire scorching performance --
and perhaps indifferent gas mileage. If I buy a sedan, I can't imagine
the need for anything more than Honda's I4. I alternately drive to
work an 03 Civic LX 5 spd and a 01 Prelude 5 spd. The Civic does just
fine on I 75 and gets 38-40 mpg. Heck, lets put a "hemi" in the Camry
or Accord next. "

I gotta agree with TWW. All our Accords have been I4s and they've all
been perfectly fine for the intended use. However, we do have a
V6-powered minivan for family outings and weeks-long vacations. I
wouldn't be surprised to see market segmentation between I4-FWD cars
and V6-AWD/RWD cars in the not too distant future. With V6s exceeding
250HP, FWD becomes less and less "user friendly."

#16

"SoCalMike" wrote

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yup. i like the new taillights. less asian looking.

And unlike the 2005-2006 Accords, their taillights still have amber turn
signals. ;-)

#17

<dimndsonmywndshld (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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"Regardless of the nay sayers and nit pickers, the Ridgeline is a truck
and a
very good one in its class."

Come on Kent; the Ridgeline is the perfect truck for people who need a
Civic. A load in the bed obstructs access to the spare, its V6 gets
similar fuel economy to GM's new V8s and it isn't cheap. No wonder
sales are barely meeting goal. Had Honda brought this thing to market 3
or 4 years ago it would have been a winner. Today, it's another
Element.

Let's see now, the above is in your never humble opinon, as opposed the the
Automotive Writers who gave it Truck of the Year in Detroit this year. I'll
not even mention the Motor Trend Truck of the Year since it is slightly
tainted with Motor Trend's tendency to go with the advertisers. No, it
isn't cheap, but when its competition is trimmed out to the Ridgeline's
level, it becomes a real value. If a Civic driver wants a truck, I'd
suggest the Element ... cheaper, lighter, and very versitile. Where would
you rather have a spare, in a locked compartment shielded from damage and
theft, or hanging under the bumper subject to both?

For what it's worth, I neither own nor desire a pickup or any other truck.

Quote:

But regarding the next generation Accord - I expect some major platform
changes including an AWD option (probably starting with the Accord's
platform mate the Acura TL). Like the Camry, I expect the Accord to
grow in size a little. I'd sure like to see Honda offer a head's up
display. One of my cars has that and it works great. Honda's cloth
seats could stand some major improvement, too. A fully reclining
passenger seat with flip-up leg support (like the optional BMW seats)
would be nice.

What's the price difference between Hondas and BMWs? Heads up displays?
Seen the new Civic dash? Close enough without the expense and visability
problems that some people have with HUDs.

Of course you have perfect knowledge of the auto industry and I should be
chanting, "I[m not worthy, I'm not worthy ..."

--
Kent Finnell
From the Music City USA

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#18

"Where would you rather have a spare, in a locked compartment shielded
from damage and theft, or hanging under the bumper subject to both?"

I'd like the spare where I could get to it when I needed it.

Have a nice day, Kent.

#19

You're a total cook. You're one of those cooks that drives on underinflated
tires, so you can spend you're day on the side road fixing a flat.

<dimndsonmywndshld (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

"Where would you rather have a spare, in a locked compartment shielded
from damage and theft, or hanging under the bumper subject to both?"

I'd like the spare where I could get to it when I needed it.

Have a nice day, Kent.

#20

Too many Toyota trolls. Camry is a grandpa car. Admit it. The new Avalon..
guess who is buying them?? It's a Buick but in a different skin.

"SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

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John Carpenter wrote:
I own both a new '06 Avalon and just sold an '05 Accord EX V6 - the new
Camry IS much better looking than the Accord and it's the SAME V6, same
HP (268 hp) as the Avalon. Remember, the HP ratings on all cars dropped
(Avalon from 280 to 268) with the new testing standards last fall. The V6
will run quite well on regular, as that's all I've used in the Avalon -
premium is required for "maximum performance". There's still a Civic in
the garage for use behind the RV. It does appear the Honda engineers have
their work cut out for the next generation.

wouldnt it also cannibalize sales from the lower end lexuses, as well?
seems a fine line to me between an avalon (stretched camry) and a lexus.

i glanced at the new lexuses at the LA auto show, and i miss the old
IS300/IS300sportback. im weird though.