97 accord stick-no start?

#11

On 12/18/07 12:35 PM, in article qpU9j.36279$D44.20155@trnddc04, "nick"
<nick (AT) NOSPAM (DOT) ORG> wrote:

Quote:

motsco_ wrote:

For a '97 with unknown mileage, you need to read up on starters:

http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=20252&highlight=stranded+sol
enoid

The wiggling around and pumping the clutch may be equal to the 'tapping'
of the hatchet. Follow the links in the thread too.

'Curly'

Thanks Curly. It's a 97 Accord LX with only about 65K miles and on
it's second battery. I do now get a loud click but no start below
maybe 40 degrees. I had already tried tapping the solenoid and the
clutch interlock switch. Probably the solenoid then??

nick

If you are still on only the second battery, I would take that battery and
get it checked before messing with anything else. I have experienced
batteries on the way out that had just enough power to make the solenoid
click.

#12

Updates:

Battery is great, alternator kicks out 14.5. Problem
is unrelated to temperature or duration of inactivity.
Can happen first thing in the morning, or after a
drive during the middle of the day. May not happen
at all.

This is a 97 accord. In 2004 it had (they tell me!) a
new ignition switch replaced as a recall.

Anyhow -- sometimes when I go to start it, all I get
is the solenoid click. No turnover at all.

But if I repeatedly flap the key to Off then start,
again and again quickly, the starter turns over and
the engine starts.

Now .. I ask you .. is this the ignition switch or
the starter solenoid????

nick

#13

nick wrote:

Quote:

Updates:

Battery is great, alternator kicks out 14.5. Problem
is unrelated to temperature or duration of inactivity.
Can happen first thing in the morning, or after a
drive during the middle of the day. May not happen
at all.

This is a 97 accord. In 2004 it had (they tell me!) a
new ignition switch replaced as a recall.

Anyhow -- sometimes when I go to start it, all I get
is the solenoid click. No turnover at all.

But if I repeatedly flap the key to Off then start,
again and again quickly, the starter turns over and
the engine starts.

Now .. I ask you .. is this the ignition switch or
the starter solenoid????

nick

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It's the contacts on the solenoid. They're replacable per the link I
already provided. You don't have a no-start problem . . you have a
no-turn problem. Nothing to do with the ignition switch since you always
here it click at the starter.

'Curly'

#14

motsco_ wrote:

Quote:

nick wrote:

Updates:

Battery is great, alternator kicks out 14.5. Problem
is unrelated to temperature or duration of inactivity.
Can happen first thing in the morning, or after a
drive during the middle of the day. May not happen
at all.

This is a 97 accord. In 2004 it had (they tell me!) a
new ignition switch replaced as a recall.

Anyhow -- sometimes when I go to start it, all I get
is the solenoid click. No turnover at all.

But if I repeatedly flap the key to Off then start,
again and again quickly, the starter turns over and
the engine starts.

Now .. I ask you .. is this the ignition switch or
the starter solenoid????

nick

-------------------------

It's the contacts on the solenoid. They're replacable per the link I
already provided. You don't have a no-start problem . . you have a
no-turn problem. Nothing to do with the ignition switch since you always
here it click at the starter.

'Curly'

Yep... I had an ol' '76 Civic that would do the same thing. I wacked
the starter with a jack handle for several months before having the
starter rebuilt..

JT

(I ain't cheeep, Ah's frugal!)

#15

Grumpy AuContraire wrote:

Quote:

It's the contacts on the solenoid. They're replacable per the link I
already provided. You don't have a no-start problem . . you have a
no-turn problem. Nothing to do with the ignition switch since you
always here it click at the starter.

'Curly'

Yep... I had an ol' '76 Civic that would do the same thing. I wacked
the starter with a jack handle for several months before having the
starter rebuilt..

JT
______________

.. . . . . Here's the link again. It involves a _HATCHET_ not a jack
handle. Same methodology:

http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=20252&

Enjoy.

'Curly'

#16

motsco_ wrote:

Quote:

Grumpy AuContraire wrote:

It's the contacts on the solenoid. They're replacable per the link I
already provided. You don't have a no-start problem . . you have a
no-turn problem. Nothing to do with the ignition switch since you
always here it click at the starter.

'Curly'

Yep... I had an ol' '76 Civic that would do the same thing. I wacked
the starter with a jack handle for several months before having the
starter rebuilt..

JT

______________

. . . . . Here's the link again. It involves a _HATCHET_ not a jack
handle. Same methodology:

http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=20252&

Enjoy.

'Curly'

Shades of Lizzy Borden??

<G>

JT

#17

OK, used the hatchet trick and am convinced. I will
order a $25 solenoid kit. When I complete the order
online will they eventually ask me the model/year of
the car?

Also, how difficult is it to get at the bottom bolt
on the starter??

#18

nick wrote:

Quote:

OK, used the hatchet trick and am convinced. I will
order a $25 solenoid kit. When I complete the order
online will they eventually ask me the model/year of
the car?

Also, how difficult is it to get at the bottom bolt
on the starter??

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If you need the hatchet, it's usually because the solenoid isn't getting
ground through the brushes / armature.

Read the thread again. I have edited it for clarity. If yours clicks,
but doesn't crank it is more likely the solenoid contacts mentioned by
the member 'Carbuff2'.

'Curly'

#19

How difficult is it to get at the bottom bolt
on the starter?? I do a lot of wrenching on our
old MG, but all the bolts and nuts are pretty simple
to get to. How's the 97 Accord 4 cyl starter to get
off??

Yes, mine clicks. Loud. If I repeatedly flick the key
from OFF to III and back eventually the solenoid contacts
come together and it starts. So I am planning to
order the Nippondenso starter SOLENOID contact repair
kit WITH plunger. Izzat OK??

#20

nick wrote:

Quote:

How difficult is it to get at the bottom bolt
on the starter?? I do a lot of wrenching on our
old MG, but all the bolts and nuts are pretty simple
to get to. How's the 97 Accord 4 cyl starter to get
off??

Yes, mine clicks. Loud. If I repeatedly flick the key
from OFF to III and back eventually the solenoid contacts
come together and it starts. So I am planning to
order the Nippondenso starter SOLENOID contact repair
kit WITH plunger. Izzat OK??

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Yes, you've got it!

Mine needs to come out soon because I've got the noisy gears / bushing
that go EEeewww when I let go of the key.I can't say about the
difficulty cuz I've never done one on a Honda.

Look in there with a mirror and a good flashlight. Parts diagrams are at
www.slhondaparts.com but they rarely help for what you need to know.
Search www.tegger.com and see if there's anything about starter removal.

'Curly'