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Default Best way to remove carbon deposits - 05-26-2008 , 08:37 PM






Short of removing cylinder heads and scraping the carbon deposit off the
combustion chamber surfaces, is there some gentler method that is also not
harmful to the CC? What are the profs using? The stores are full with
various additives but I don't know if one could trust their claims.

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Bill


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Default Re: Best way to remove carbon deposits - 05-27-2008 , 06:44 PM






"jim beam" <spamvortex (AT) bad (DOT) example.net> wrote:
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and still do the italian tune-up. it clears carbon deposits marvelously.
full throttle, steepest fastest longest uphill you can find. several
times. hondas love that.

i did some head work on my civic a couple of years ago. i'd been flogging
the poor thing to los angeles and las vegas from san francisco at high
speed for a year. it was so clean inside, you could see the metal of the
piston tops!
Thanks guys for the tip but here is my problem with your suggestions:
The main reason I want to get rid off the carbon build-up is the pinging in
the pistons when the engine runs hot and hard. What you are suggesting would
make the pinging probably intolerable during the "Italian tune-up".
Besides, wouldn't that also damage the catalytic converter (CC)? How about
any dark exhaust coming out of the muffler during the process? That might
almost invite the cops to pull me over, no? Back in '80s I once tried one
of those cleaning additives by pouring it in a 4-barrel carburator and boy,
what a smoke that created for a while behind my Cutlass! (That was before
CC.) I would not want to go through that experience again.

By the way, I usually fill up with Chevron gas that does contain the Techron
additive but I don't see any noticeable reduction in pinging. So what gives?

BF



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Default Re: Best way to remove carbon deposits - 05-27-2008 , 08:26 PM





Bill Forintos wrote:

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"jim beam" <spamvortex (AT) bad (DOT) example.net> wrote:

and still do the italian tune-up. it clears carbon deposits
marvelously. full throttle, steepest fastest longest uphill you can
find. several times. hondas love that.

i did some head work on my civic a couple of years ago. i'd been
flogging the poor thing to los angeles and las vegas from san
francisco at high speed for a year. it was so clean inside, you could
see the metal of the piston tops!


Thanks guys for the tip but here is my problem with your suggestions:
The main reason I want to get rid off the carbon build-up is the pinging
in the pistons when the engine runs hot and hard. What you are
suggesting would make the pinging probably intolerable during the
"Italian tune-up". Besides, wouldn't that also damage the catalytic
converter (CC)? How about any dark exhaust coming out of the muffler
during the process? That might almost invite the cops to pull me over,
no? Back in '80s I once tried one of those cleaning additives by
pouring it in a 4-barrel carburator and boy, what a smoke that created
for a while behind my Cutlass! (That was before CC.) I would not want
to go through that experience again.

By the way, I usually fill up with Chevron gas that does contain the
Techron additive but I don't see any noticeable reduction in pinging. So
what gives?


In the old days of carbureted vehicles, you could use water injection
which literally "steam cleans" the combustion chamber. I have no idea
whether you could do so in a modern fuel injected computerized engine
though.

JT



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Default Re: Best way to remove carbon deposits - 05-30-2008 , 08:39 PM



"jim beam" <spamvortex (AT) bad (DOT) example.net> wrote:
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if you're getting detonation, for a honda, the most likely cause is
excessive carbon build-up, the plugs are the wrong grade, or the timing is
out. it could be an excessively skimmed head if the head's been off, but
that's not so likely.
Well, the car has 264 K miles in it, so I assume carbon buildup is to be
expected after that much use, even with Chevron gas and proper tune-up.

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check timing, [with the timing reset jumper in place], make sure the plugs
are good, i.e. just change them anyway, use ngk or denso, then do the
italian thing. don't worry about the catalyst - it's made to withstand
that kind of treatment.
This car has been maintained per Honda's schedule, so I don't know ...

Bill



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Default Re: Best way to remove carbon deposits - 05-31-2008 , 10:09 PM



| is there some gentler method that is also not harmful to the CC?
Pump ozone in, to oxidise carbon to CO2.

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various additives but I don't know if one could trust their claims.
None approved by AAA ? Is Redex 1 of these ?


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