Life saving driving tips

#1

I saw a news report today related to a school bus. The driver of the bus
had a perfect driving record. He ran thru a stop light and caused a very
very serious accident. The news reporter was not able to determine why the
driver failed to stop at the light. Some people speculated that the gas
pedal stuck or that his brakes failed to work.

I realize that most people that subscribe to this newsgroup probably
already knows these secrets. Even if you do know these secrets, please
make sure that everyone in your family is informed of these secrets. I've
talked to several people and only one person knew both secrets.

The first secret:
If your brakes stop working, remove your foot from the gas pedal. Place
the gear shift in neutral. Use your signal light to let the driver behind
you know that you are going to turn right. Drift off the road. Use the
emerg. brakes to stop.

If your gas pedal sticks--follow the advice above. However, you should use
your regular brakes to come to a stop.

Don't do what the bus driver probably done which was to crash the vehicle
in order to bring it to a stop.

If anyone wants to comment--feel free to do so.

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#2

"Jason" <jason (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

If your gas pedal sticks--follow the advice above. However, you should use
your regular brakes to come to a stop.

You might want to just turn off the damn engine, instead of taking your
advice, and slipping a full throttled engine into NEUTRAL!

#3

"Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX (AT) rogers (DOT) com> wrote

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"Jason" <jason (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message
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If your gas pedal sticks--follow the advice above. However, you should
use
your regular brakes to come to a stop.

You might want to just turn off the damn engine, instead of taking your
advice, and slipping a full throttled engine into NEUTRAL!

Turning off the engine may deactivate the power steering and vacuum assisted

brakes.
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If it's got tits, tires, tubes, or transistors, it's trouble.

#4

bearman wrote:

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"Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX (AT) rogers (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"Jason" <jason (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message
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If your gas pedal sticks--follow the advice above. However, you should

use

your regular brakes to come to a stop.

You might want to just turn off the damn engine, instead of taking your
advice, and slipping a full throttled engine into NEUTRAL!

Turning off the engine may deactivate the power steering and vacuum assisted
brakes.

and depending on wheel angle and how flustered you are, it could lock
the wheel

#5

In article <jason-0905051640480001 (AT) pm4-broad-13 (DOT) snlo.dialup.fix.net>,
jason (AT) nospam (DOT) com (Jason) wrote:

Quote:

I saw a news report today related to a school bus. The driver of the bus
had a perfect driving record. He ran thru a stop light and caused a very
very serious accident. The news reporter was not able to determine why the
driver failed to stop at the light. Some people speculated that the gas
pedal stuck or that his brakes failed to work.

I realize that most people that subscribe to this newsgroup probably
already knows these secrets. Even if you do know these secrets, please
make sure that everyone in your family is informed of these secrets. I've
talked to several people and only one person knew both secrets.

The first secret:
If your brakes stop working, remove your foot from the gas pedal. Place
the gear shift in neutral. Use your signal light to let the driver behind
you know that you are going to turn right. Drift off the road. Use the
emerg. brakes to stop.

If your gas pedal sticks--follow the advice above. However, you should use
your regular brakes to come to a stop.

Don't do what the bus driver probably done which was to crash the vehicle
in order to bring it to a stop.

If anyone wants to comment--feel free to do so.

UPDATE:
My advice only applies to cars, SUVs, pickups and any vans. It does NOT
apply to dump trucks or tractor trailors carrying full loads going down a
grade. If you own or drive such a vehicle--ignore my advice and get your
advice from experts in that field. I have no experience related to driving
fully loaded large trucks traveling down grades. I only wish that the
school bus driver mentioned above knew the tips that I mentioned. I don't
know why everyone is not required to learn these two tips in order to get
a driver's license.

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#6

In article <jason-0905051640480001 (AT) pm4-broad-13 (DOT) snlo.dialup.fix.net>,
jason (AT) nospam (DOT) com says...

Quote:

I saw a news report today related to a school bus. The driver of the bus
had a perfect driving record. He ran thru a stop light and caused a very
very serious accident. The news reporter was not able to determine why the
driver failed to stop at the light. Some people speculated that the gas
pedal stuck or that his brakes failed to work.

These two scenarios are easily checked. Either one of these failures do
not miraculously fix themselves during an accident.

Quote:

I realize that most people that subscribe to this newsgroup probably
already knows these secrets. Even if you do know these secrets, please
make sure that everyone in your family is informed of these secrets. I've
talked to several people and only one person knew both secrets.

Secrets???? Why do you call them secrets? There is nothing about being
a safe driver that is a secret.

Quote:

The first secret:
If your brakes stop working, remove your foot from the gas pedal. Place
the gear shift in neutral. Use your signal light to let the driver behind
you know that you are going to turn right. Drift off the road. Use the
emerg. brakes to stop.

This is taught at all driver safety classes.

Quote:

If your gas pedal sticks--follow the advice above. However, you should use
your regular brakes to come to a stop.

The advice should not be the same. You should not shift into neutral as
you might damage your engine. Just hit the brakes. It may take longer,
but the car will eventually stop.

Quote:

Don't do what the bus driver probably done which was to crash the vehicle
in order to bring it to a stop.

Again, blind speculation with no basis on fact is plain stupid.
-------------
Alex

#7

Alex Rodriguez wrote:

Quote:

The advice should not be the same. You should not shift into neutral as
you might damage your engine. Just hit the brakes. It may take longer,
but the car will eventually stop.

gee- sorry i ran over ya. coulda stopped sooner but i was afraid of
blowing up my engine!

put it in neutral, and let the rev limiter do its thing.

#8

In article <d5qrfh$528$4 (AT) newsmaster (DOT) cc.columbia.edu>, Alex Rodriguez
<adr5 (AT) columbia (DOT) edu> wrote:

Quote:

In article <jason-0905051640480001 (AT) pm4-broad-13 (DOT) snlo.dialup.fix.net>,
jason (AT) nospam (DOT) com says...
I saw a news report today related to a school bus. The driver of the bus
had a perfect driving record. He ran thru a stop light and caused a very
very serious accident. The news reporter was not able to determine why the
driver failed to stop at the light. Some people speculated that the gas
pedal stuck or that his brakes failed to work.

These two scenarios are easily checked. Either one of these failures do
not miraculously fix themselves during an accident.

I realize that most people that subscribe to this newsgroup probably
already knows these secrets. Even if you do know these secrets, please
make sure that everyone in your family is informed of these secrets. I've
talked to several people and only one person knew both secrets.

Secrets???? Why do you call them secrets? There is nothing about being
a safe driver that is a secret.

The first secret:
If your brakes stop working, remove your foot from the gas pedal. Place
the gear shift in neutral. Use your signal light to let the driver behind
you know that you are going to turn right. Drift off the road. Use the
emerg. brakes to stop.

This is taught at all driver safety classes.

If your gas pedal sticks--follow the advice above. However, you should use
your regular brakes to come to a stop.

The advice should not be the same. You should not shift into neutral as
you might damage your engine. Just hit the brakes. It may take longer,
but the car will eventually stop.

Don't do what the bus driver probably done which was to crash the vehicle
in order to bring it to a stop.

Again, blind speculation with no basis on fact is plain stupid.
-------------
Alex

Alex,
You made some excellent points. You are right--perhaps I should not have
used the term "secrets". Whenever there is a serious accident like the bus
crash--it's fairly common for people to speculate as to the cause of the
accident. For example, if there was a major wind storm, and you saw three
tractor trailors that were lying on their sides--I have a feeling that the
typical driver that passed the trucks would speculate that the wind caused
the trucks to be lying on their sides.

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#9

Jason wrote:

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Quote:

--ignore my advice and get your
advice from experts in that field.

Best advice you have given so far.

#10

On Mon, 09 May 2005 16:40:47 -0700, jason (AT) nospam (DOT) com (Jason) wrote:

Quote:

If your brakes stop working, remove your foot from the gas pedal. Place
the gear shift in neutral. Use your signal light to let the driver behind
you know that you are going to turn right. Drift off the road. Use the
emerg. brakes to stop.

Your best action is dependent on circumstances in each case. If there
is plenty of room, an easy drift onto the shoulder and gentle
application of the e-brake may be all that is needed. However, if the
brakes fail at a critical time, I would start applying the e-brake
immediately and downshift into the lowest gear possible. Depressing
the service brake pedal will keep the brake lights lit if that is
important. If the situation is dire, sideswiping curbs, guard rails
or other vehicles may be necessary. Alternatively, steering to avoid
objects or at least pick the best object for impact may be the best
choice. It all depends on the circumstances.