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Ok, 4 dr Civic LX, only 6000 miles. We have had the car for 7 months and with the latest heat waves have observed the Air Conditioning acting weird. I know Honda's are not known for cranking out the coldest air, but that is not my complaint. Here is the situation, has anyone else observed this or hav input? Drive car (doesn't matter how long/fast) A/C on, coldest temp, max fan speed, recirc mode -- Blowing cold air as expected -- Come to a stop for at least 15 seconds -- Blowing still cold while idling in Drive at stop -- accelerate to drive off from stop -- Air begins to get warmer (not hot) and more humid (probably due to warmer air hitting wet evaporator) -- After 15-20 seconds air returns to cold. This will repeat at every semi-long stop. |
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Douglas Anderson <doug (AT) douglasanderson (DOT) net> wrote: Ok, 4 dr Civic LX, only 6000 miles. We have had the car for 7 months and with the latest heat waves have observed the Air Conditioning acting weird. I know Honda's are not known for cranking out the coldest air, but that is not my complaint. Here is the situation, has The air coming out of the vents on my 2003 Civic Hybrid is very cold. Sometimes it is so cold I adjust the temperature to just a little cooler than the cabin temperature. The old spec used to be 20 degrees cooler coming out of the vent than ambient cabin temp. I haven't measured the new one. Drive car (doesn't matter how long/fast) A/C on, coldest temp, max fan speed, recirc mode There's that recirc mode again... different thread going on in the last week or so. You might search Google. Subject: Re: 2003 Accord Air Conditioning (A/C) stops working (blows hot) intermittently http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&threadm=88f3023c.0307011751.6de12225%40 posting.google.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26safe%3Doff%26q%3D%2522accord%2Bair%2Bcondition ing%2522%26btnG%3DGoogle%2BSearch%26meta%3Dgroup%2 53Drec.autos.makers.honda accelerate to drive off from stop -- Air begins to get warmer (not hot) and more humid (probably due to warmer air hitting wet evaporator) -- How hard are you accelerating? There is a full throttle cutout for the A/C, to allow better acceleration. Maybe your are hitting that. This will repeat at every semi-long stop. I also have an 02 Accord Short stops don't do it? Sounds like it might be a vacuum leak. What about a long acceleration? Can you feel the effects of the cutout? I rarely do in my Civic, but I have felt it. I think this is unacceptable, on a 90+ degree day outside this temp rise is significant enough to be uncomfortable. |
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Douglas Anderson <doug (AT) douglasanderson (DOT) net> wrote: Ok, 4 dr Civic LX, only 6000 miles. We have had the car for 7 months and with the latest heat waves have observed the Air Conditioning acting weird. I know Honda's are not known for cranking out the coldest air, but that is not my complaint. Here is the situation, has The air coming out of the vents on my 2003 Civic Hybrid is very cold. Sometimes it is so cold I adjust the temperature to just a little cooler than the cabin temperature. The old spec used to be 20 degrees cooler coming out of the vent than ambient cabin temp. I haven't measured the new one. Drive car (doesn't matter how long/fast) A/C on, coldest temp, max fan speed, recirc mode There's that recirc mode again... different thread going on in the last week or so. You might search Google. Subject: Re: 2003 Accord Air Conditioning (A/C) stops working (blows hot) intermittently http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&threadm=88f3023c.0307011751.6de12225%40 posting.google.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26safe%3Doff%26q%3D%2522accord%2Bair%2Bcondition ing%2522%26btnG%3DGoogle%2BSearch%26meta%3Dgroup%2 53Drec.autos.makers.honda accelerate to drive off from stop -- Air begins to get warmer (not hot) and more humid (probably due to warmer air hitting wet evaporator) -- How hard are you accelerating? There is a full throttle cutout for the A/C, to allow better acceleration. Maybe your are hitting that. This will repeat at every semi-long stop. I also have an 02 Accord Short stops don't do it? Sounds like it might be a vacuum leak. What about a long acceleration? Can you feel the effects of the cutout? I rarely do in my Civic, but I have felt it. I think this is unacceptable, on a 90+ degree day outside this temp rise is significant enough to be uncomfortable. |
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Ok, 4 dr Civic LX, only 6000 miles. We have had the car for 7 months and with the latest heat waves have observed the Air Conditioning acting weird. I know Honda's are not known for cranking out the coldest air, but that is not my complaint. Here is the situation, has anyone else observed this or hav input? Drive car (doesn't matter how long/fast) A/C on, coldest temp, max fan speed, recirc mode -- Blowing cold air as expected -- Come to a stop for at least 15 seconds -- Blowing still cold while idling in Drive at stop -- accelerate to drive off from stop -- Air begins to get warmer (not hot) and more humid (probably due to warmer air hitting wet evaporator) -- After 15-20 seconds air returns to cold. This will repeat at every semi-long stop. I also have an 02 Accord and do not observe this. Also have taken Civic to dealer and they went on test drive with me and said that was "normal" and the system is belowing the correct temp at idle. I requested a further check at which point they took it in back and said A/C charge was correct and no other system problems could be found. I think this is unacceptable, on a 90+ degree day outside this temp rise is significant enough to be uncomfortable. |
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on? My guess is that the compressor just can't deliver enough liquified refrigerant at low idling rpms and the receiver gets low on liquid during the stop. IOW when you accelerate away, it takes a few secs to build up enough liquid refrigerant to work efficiently again. I remember in the old days, less stringent emissions standards, when A/C was on, the idle speed would get a boost to 1K or 1200rpms or so. Have you tried raising the engine speed, to say 1500rpm, when stopped to see if that makes a difference? If you have an auto-trans that would mean putting it in neutral of course - not very convenient but try a test just to see what happens. Others have mentioned the compressor cut-out at high throttle openings but are you actually accelerating that hard? |
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not an idleing a/c issue if you read the post, it's a performance under acceleration issue. If you read his other post, he says it doesn't happen when he stops for 1-2secs and then "goes". IMO it's a combination of circumstances. Rgds, George Macdonald "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me?? |
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