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Re: Cleaning Fuel Injectors in 2005 Honda Accord?
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Re: Cleaning Fuel Injectors in 2005 Honda Accord? -
01-18-2008
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Most of those mechanics carry a utility knife in their pocket for when they think they can sell you new boots. |
They don't need to. Nobody checks their CV joint boots, so it's only a
matter of time before the mechanic ends up making money changing the
shafts.
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There is no way a mechanic can determine the injectors need cleaning without opening up your engine. |
You remove the fuel rail from the manifold, injectors in place. Place clear
container under injectors. Crank engine. Observe spray pattern. They do it
all the time.
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If they need cleaning at 30k I would be jumping up and down on the dealer as there is no way they need cleaned that soon. |
That's correct. The only exception I can think of is if the OP let the car
run out of gas a number of times.
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Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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They don't need to. Nobody checks their CV joint boots, so it's only a matter of time before the mechanic ends up making money changing the shafts. There is no way a mechanic can determine the injectors need cleaning without opening up your engine. You remove the fuel rail from the manifold, injectors in place. Place clear container under injectors. Crank engine. Observe spray pattern. They do it all the time. If they need cleaning at 30k I would be jumping up and down on the dealer as there is no way they need cleaned that soon. That's correct. The only exception I can think of is if the OP let the car run out of gas a number of times. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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Most of those mechanics carry a utility knife in their pocket for when they think they can sell you new boots. |
these guys instead of going out to lunch while
they "work"!
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"Woody" <TheD... (AT) pond (DOT) net> wrote innews:Ejbkj.1199$EZ3.206 (AT) nlpi070 (DOT) nbdc.sbc.com: Most of those mechanics carry a utility knife in their pocket for when they think they can sell you new boots. They don't need to. Nobody checks their CV joint boots, so it's only a matter of time before the mechanic ends up making money changing the shafts. |
services, but yeah, other garages do.
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There is no way a mechanic can determine the injectors need cleaning without opening up your engine. You remove the fuel rail from the manifold, injectors in place. Place clear container under injectors. Crank engine. Observe spray pattern. They do it all the time. |
Thanks to all who kicked in 0.02.
S
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Yeah, what Elle said! ?I used to run Techron through my '89 Prelude from time to time. ?My '05 Accord has almost 34k miles and I never put any fuel cleaner in it. ?Just use name brand gas, such as Texaco (which also uses Techron). ?Used to use Exxon or BP an dno problems there either. ?Let's see - most of it will be "labor" and not really materials. ?$60 for 15 minutes that's $240/hr. ?I must be in the wrong line of work... Besides, I don't remember seeing it as a requirement in my owner's manual. Certainly not at 30k miles! |
read the owner's manual now and again, and never
remembered that. He bullsh**ed by saying Honda
recommends it every 20k or so.
There is a temptation to trust the so-called
"experts", and just do what they tell you out of
laziness, so i'm sure he gets a few suckers now and
again. Also, i had a previous oil-changer warn me
about my CV boots tearing, and i found out the hard
way that he was NOT lying! (had to get new axles, or something like
that)....so there was a historical temptation to believe this recent
liar.
By the way, this recent asshole was at a Jiffy-Lube, which over-
charges for an oil-change anyways!
Thanks much, Elle and Dave!!!
S
You're welcome! And you might want to do yourself another favor - either
find an independent shop, go to the dealer (yes they're often CHEAPER than
Jiffy Lube!) or do the oil changes yourself. They're not all bad, but
they've got more than their share of shady people there.
Back in the '87, my brother took his Mitsubishi there for an oil change.
Back when Mitsubishi wasn't as popular, they blew a fuse - only place to get
it was the dealership. The closer one didn't have it so they had get
someone to drive 30 minutes to pick up the part and bring it back. They
gave him a free oil change and apologized. I was with him when this
happened! Another example - they forgot to put the oil cap on his friend's
car - he drove home, popped the hood and it was covered in oil. He made
them pay for an engine cleaning, but don't remember what else happened.
More extreme example - an owner (older guy) of a small neighborhood hardware
store we used to go to took his pick-up truck to another J.L. my brother
used to go to sometimes. They forgot to put the drain bolt back in, so
after he drove off there was an oil trail following him from J.L. His
engine died on the parkway and he basically had them pay for a new engine.
These are all actual examples from the '80s.
Then I saw this last year:
http://mfile.akamai.com/12924/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2006/0503/9152183.200k.asx
Here's another one:
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/jiffy_lube.htm
I'm not saying things haven't changed since then, and I'm sure there are
good J.Lubes out there. However I won't go there unless it's a dire
emergency and still watch them like a hawk.
-Dave
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On Jan 19, 7:18�am, Tegger <teg... (AT) tegger (DOT) c0m> wrote: "Woody" <TheD... (AT) pond (DOT) net> wrote innews:Ejbkj.1199$EZ3.206 (AT) nlpi070 (DOT) nbdc.sb c.com: Most of those mechanics carry a utility knife in their pocket for when they think they can sell you new boots. They don't need to. Nobody checks their CV joint boots, so it's only a matter of time before the mechanic ends up making money changing the shafts. I don't believe Jiffy-Lube offers those services, but yeah, other garages do. |
You can check your own CV joint boots, and you don't even need to jack
the car up or take the wheel off.
Turn the steering wheel all the way to the left. Now go look inside the
front left wheel well. You'll be able to see the bellows of the boots,
already fully expanded, and any cracks very visible.
Turn the wheel the opposite way for the right side.
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| There is no way a mechanic can determine the injectors need cleaning without opening up your engine. You remove the fuel rail from the manifold, injectors in place. Place clear container under injectors. Crank engine. Observe spray pattern. They do it all the time. I really doubt my guy had the time to do this... |
That's the way to do it though.
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Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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You can check your own CV joint boots, and you don't even need to jack the car up or take the wheel off. Turn the steering wheel all the way to the left. Now go look inside the front left wheel well. You'll be able to see the bellows of the boots, already fully expanded, and any cracks very visible. Turn the wheel the opposite way for the right side. |
Peace,
Polfus
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They don't need to. Nobody checks their CV joint boots, so it's only a matter of time before the mechanic ends up making money changing the shafts. |
I have toytoa camry with torn boots - it happened long time ago.
Exchanging shafts for refurbished ones is $200 per each side.
How much is to just replace boots?
I know there is a lot of labor included in this repair anyway.
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