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Re: Ding King
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Re: Ding King -
07-16-2003
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"Sergey" <xxx (AT) xxx (DOT) xxx> wrote I have the displeasure of dealing with repairing damages on my 2003 Accord EX-V6 from a golf size hail storm that visited Chicago area last Sunday. I took my Accord to the insurance claims office to have it looked at. Got my repairs estimate and a check - all of the $5,264 ... the trunk and the hood are getting replaced; the roof, the doors, the fenders, and quarter panels are getting repaired. Their preferred method of repair is to fill in the dents, sand them, polish them out, apply the finish, restore rust protection, etc. I asked the adjuster among other things about the Ding King and alike, to which she said the PDR (Paintless Dent Repair) is not their preferred method of repairs because using suction or pulling instruments like the Ding King, even when done by a professional, may stretch the place of the dent to the extend of cracking the paint and causing it to chip off over time Sergey richard48 (AT) webtv (DOT) net> wrote in message news:25148-3F0ACE4E-597 (AT) storefull-2191 (DOT) public.lawson.webtv.net... Anyone used the "do it yourself" Ding King kits to remove dents from your car. Comments? Were you in the Buffalo Gorve/Wheeling area. That's where I lave and my 02 Accord got screwed up parked outside. I have appointment for estimate today and really would prefer PDR. Car was hit with golf ball sized hail and has damage to roof, hood, trunk lid, passenger front and rear fenders, and passenger roof/window pillars. |
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Quite possibly so. I was merely quoting what the insurance adjuster told me after she gave me the standard "State Farm ...", my ins. co., "... prefers not to use PDR methods" and the possibility of having a cracked paint after using suction or other PDR methods is one of the reasons she mentioned. The dealership's bodyshop manager said that when they use PDR, they drill holes on the sides of the surface (edge of the roof for example, where the upper part of the door meets the roof rail) and reach to the damaged spots with some sort of instruments and bang or massage the spots out. After this is done, he said they put color matched plugs in the holes they created, and according to him State Farm doesn't like that approach either. If what I read here about PDR is true and people are having good experiences with it, I would love to avoid having to paint. However, given that my car is brand new, and dealership's bodyshop says the paint manufacturer guarantees the paint job for as long as I own the car, I am thinking it makes sense for me to go that route. Sergey |
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Well, the dealer is very wrong - the process wouldn't be called PDR if they drilled holes and plugged them, the statement is ridiculous. |
fit the tool through. they dont have the time or knowlege to be taking off
door panels, breaking/replacing mounting clips, messing with window,
speaker, and mirror wiring... especially on an older car. any holes drilled
are not viewable from outside or inside the car. i *guess* you could have
the door jamb holes "leaded", primed, painted, whatever, but then youre
defeating the purpose. especially on an older car.
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I know for a fact that the "other" PDR methods do not use suction - the massage it from the inside of the panel. You can't suck out a hail stone ding. In article <pW4Pa.19033$GL4.5366@rwcrnsc53>, "Sergey" <xxx (AT) xxx (DOT) xxx> wrote: I have the displeasure of dealing with repairing damages on my 2003 Accord EX-V6 from a golf size hail storm that visited Chicago area last Sunday. I took my Accord to the insurance claims office to have it looked at. Got my repairs estimate and a check - all of the $5,264 ... the trunk and the hood are getting replaced; the roof, the doors, the fenders, and quarter panels are getting repaired. Their preferred method of repair is to fill in the dents, sand them, polish them out, apply the finish, restore rust protection, etc. I asked the adjuster among other things about the Ding King and alike, to which she said the PDR (Paintless Dent Repair) is not their preferred method of repairs because using suction or pulling instruments like the Ding King, even when done by a professional, may stretch the place of the dent to the extend of cracking the paint and causing it to chip off over time Sergey richard48 (AT) webtv (DOT) net> wrote in message news:25148-3F0ACE4E-597 (AT) storefull-2191 (DOT) public.lawson.webtv.net... Anyone used the "do it yourself" Ding King kits to remove dents from your car. Comments? |
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Yup, my car was parked in Wheeling at the time in my friend's driveway and I had to watch it happen. I had nowhere to move the car to and couldn't come outside without risking being nailed with a hail stone. I pretty much have the same type of damage you describe. I would be curious to find out what your insurance company told you and where are you taking your car to get fixed? I am taking mine to Muller Honda in Highland Park. The only other dealer who has the body shop in the are is O'Hare Honda. Sergey |
be getting a new hood and trunk, the rest will be repaired and
repainted. I am getting repaired at Gerber Auto Collision on
Milwaukee Ave in Buffalo Grove. I purchased my car at Pauly Honda and
will NEVER go to Muller Honda. Three years ago took my old Accord
there for service and someone ripped off my $100 radar detector, they
were a**holes and have since lost getting any money from me.
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Yup, my car was parked in Wheeling at the time in my friend's driveway and I had to watch it happen. I had nowhere to move the car to and couldn't come outside without risking being nailed with a hail stone. I pretty much have the same type of damage you describe. I would be curious to find out what your insurance company told you and where are you taking your car to get fixed? I am taking mine to Muller Honda in Highland Park. The only other dealer who has the body shop in the are is O'Hare Honda. Sergey |
dents it could not be repaired that way.
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If what I read here about PDR is true and people are having good experiences with it, I would love to avoid having to paint. However, given that my car is brand new, and dealership's bodyshop says the paint manufacturer guarantees the paint job for as long as I own the car |
will guarantee their work forever, against fading, acid rain, peeling,
etc...
you mention that the paint *manufacturer* will guarantee it, but whats the
cost of the paint? $200? will the bodyshop repaint it for free, or will you
be stuck with a $2000 labor bill?
no matter how good the paint, or the job, its going to fade, chip, peel the
clearcoat at some point in its life.
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The quality of the paint and the reputatation of the mfr is not the problem here. A properly done repaint job takes days of surface prep, masking and accessory removal/refitting - no paint/body shop can afford to do the job right and you *will* have overspray and finish problems at the seams. |
talking shit to get things moving along.
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"Sergey" <xxx (AT) xxx (DOT) xxx> wrote in message news:<iMoRa.79791$ye4.59426@sccrnsc01>... Yup, my car was parked in Wheeling at the time in my friend's driveway and I had to watch it happen. I had nowhere to move the car to and couldn't come outside without risking being nailed with a hail stone. I pretty much have the same type of damage you describe. I would be curious to find out what your insurance company told you and where are you taking your car to get fixed? I am taking mine to Muller Honda in Highland Park. The only other dealer who has the body shop in the are is O'Hare Honda. Sergey Also, I requested PDR but S. F. said since there were creases on the dents it could not be repaired that way. |
out waaay ahead.
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