Based on what you post everyday, YOU are obviously the most clever guy in
the US. LOL


"Gosi" <gosinn (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

On 11 Dec, 05:42, coachros... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote:


The best thing is to let them go into C11
Anything else is just plain stupid.
What else is there to be expected form Bush.
The question is if Bush is the most clever guy in the US?

The Chevy hybrid is the Malibu and unlike the Pruis it does not cost more
than a gasoline powered car of the same size.

Funny thing. when I was young ALL of the 'busses' were electric. We called
them trolleys and the were 'plugged in' all the time.


"Gosi" <gosinn (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

On 11 Dec, 12:33, "Jeff Findley" <jeff.find... (AT) ugs (DOT) nojunk.com> wrote:
There are a lot of electrical cars coming.
The dependency on oil is going down.
Even if some places need to burn somthing to create electicity it
needs not be oil.
It can be coal, there are also several other methods of creating
electricity in powerplants.

Chevy Volt: The future is electrifying.
The Extended-Range Electric Vehicle that is redefining the automotive
world is no longer just a rumor. In fact, its propulsion system is so
revolutionary, it's unlike any other vehicle or electric car that's
ever been introduced. And we're making this remarkable vision a
reality, so that one day you'll have the freedom to drive gas-free.

Chevy Volt is designed to move more than 75 percent of America's daily
commuters without a single drop of gas.(2) That means for someone who
drives less than 40 miles a day, Chevy Volt will use zero gasoline and
produce zero emissions.(1)

Unlike traditional electric cars, Chevy Volt has a revolutionary
propulsion system that takes you beyond the power of the battery. It
will use a lithium-ion battery with a gasoline-powered, range-
extending engine that drives a generator to provide electric power
when you drive beyond the 40-mile battery range.

Chevy Volt. Fully charged 2010.
http://www.chevrolet.com/electriccar/

http://venturebeat.com/2008/01/10/27-electric-cars-companies-ready-to-take-over-the-road/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_electric_vehicle

At 2008 fuel prices, battery powered buses are more economical than
diesel or gasoline powered buses. The additional cost of the batteries
is made up for[citation needed] by the low operating cost in the first
half of the typical million to two million mile (three million
kilometer) life of the bus.
Chattanooga, Tennessee operates nine free (no fares) electric buses,
which have been in operation since 1992 and have carried 11.3 million
passengers and covered a distance of 1.9 million miles. They were made
locally by Advanced Vehicle Systems. Two of these buses were used for
the 1996 Atlanta Olympics.[3][4]
Wrightbus has a new a hybrid-electric driveline for the StreetCar RTV
which has been developed in conjunction with the ISE Corporation of
California and incorporates Siemens ELFA traction components and a
Cummins ISL engine. The chassis is built to Wright Group
specifications by Swiss trolleybus specialists Carosserie Hess and is
powered by Valence Technology lithium phosphate batteries .
Beginning in the summer of 2000, Hong Kong airport began operating a
16-passenger Mitsubishi Rosa electric shuttle bus, and in the fall of
2000, New York City began testing a 66 passenger battery powered
school bus, an all electric version of the Blue-Bird TC2000.[5] A
similar bus was operated in Napa Valley, California for 14 months
ending in April, 2004.[6]
The 2008 Beijing Olympics used a fleet of 50 electric buses, which
have a range of 130 km (81 mi) with the air conditioning on. They use
Lithium-ion batteries, and consume about 1 kWh/mile. The buses were
designed by the Beijing Institute of Technology and built by the
Jinghua Coach Co. Ltd.[7] The batteries are replaced with fully
charged ones at the recharging station to allow 24 hour operation of
the buses.[8]

The major reason is Americans do not want to BUY small and midget cars.
Even those that can make small and midget cars off shore, for far less, do
not sell many of them in the US. The best selling cars are mid-size cars
including the number one selling car the Camry and the best selling vehicles
are TRUCKS not cars.

The imports did exactly the same thing domestics were doing. They were
offering ever larger and more powerful cars and trucks during the same time
period. Their small cars today are bigger and more powerful than the 'big'
cars just ten years ago. If one doubts that, compare a sixties Toyota or
Honda to what the sell today.

The only time Americans bought small cars was when the were forced to by
them by the government when Carter cause the gas supply problems. Once
Reagan did the right thing and let the market decide, they return to buying
the larger saver cars they want to buy.

Where the hell does the government, in a free society, get the right to tell
manufactures what they must produce and to tell the buyer what they must
buy, in any event?


"Jeff" <jeff.utz (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

On Dec 10, 7:27 pm, Nate Nagel <njna... (AT) roosters (DOT) net> wrote:
There is far more than GM should have done besides trying to make
electric cars practical. They should have figured out cost-efficient
ways to make small cars (instead of importing them from Korea),
implemented ways to make cars more efficient, make entry level cars
that consumers would want and that would last, and improved its
manufacturing capability to be more flexible.

Jeff

What our friend Joe really means is he can't afford a vehicle like that.

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

It was just a matter of time before Uncle Jemima came along and pulled one
of the 10 stupidest answers outta his ass.


"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote

See I told you so LOL

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Please tell us what if the color of the sky in YOUR world? LOL


"me" <noemail (AT) nothere (DOT) com> wrote

"SMS" <scharf.steven (AT) geemail (DOT) com> wrote

Just one problem: It's a Volkswagen.

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:07:15 -0500, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote:

It gains that authority by the will of the governed. Sane people
recognize that it is necessary to regulate what vehicles are allowed
on public roads and who can operate them and how they may be operated.
This prevents chaos. Sane people have managed to maintain some
modicum of control over the government in spite of the last 28 years
of ideology-driven deregulatory insanity.

Tell us, Mike, would you like food and drug companies to be able to
sell anything they like?

"Gordon McGrew" <gRmEcMgOrVeEw (AT) mindspring (DOT) com> wrote

Uh oh. A sane question.