Re: GM still out sells all others

#11

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote

Quote:

You are missing the point the auto manufacturers warrant the vehicle to
the DEALERSHIPS, not the purchaser.

READ your warranty policy manual!!!

I am not missing the point because you are wrong. There may be a warranty to
the dealer (because the dealer purchases the car from the manufacturer), but
there is also a warranty to the end consumer (assuming the car is sold as a
new vehicle).

#12

"CharlesTheCurmudgeon" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

Yes, I got hit in the face with that with my first Toyota.

I was in a job that kept moving me, and at each service interval I was in
a different community with a different dealer. Each one wanted me to take
it back to where I bought it to have it serviced, even the regular routine
maintenance. But 'tis true, all of them were also GM dealers. And
driving it back to where I bought it wasn't possible at that time with the
job I had then. But this was back in 1979-1981.

Sir Charles the Curmudgeon.

That is not the case anymore, at least not for Toyota or Honda. You can take
it to any authorized dealer for warranty repairs. Of course, they can give
regular customers some priority in scheduling if it is not unreasonable. The
dealer has the right to refuse non-warranty work if they really want to, but
unless they are under-staffed, they normally will not refuse work. Usually,
if any business continuously has more customers than they can handle, they
just raise their prices until an equilibrium is achieved.

If a dealer gives you a hard time about warranty repairs, I would call the
Toyota Motor immediately and get them to bust the balls of the dealership.

#13

What part of. 'READ your warranty policy manual,' did you not understand,
dummy? If you did you would ALSO discover the GM warranty passes on the
subsequent owners as well, dummy, up to the time, miles, WOF limit. LOL

"Mark A" <someone (AT) someone (DOT) com> wrote

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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote in message
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You are missing the point the auto manufacturers warrant the vehicle to
the DEALERSHIPS, not the purchaser.

READ your warranty policy manual!!!

I am not missing the point because you are wrong. There may be a warranty
to the dealer (because the dealer purchases the car from the
manufacturer), but there is also a warranty to the end consumer (assuming
the car is sold as a new vehicle).

#14

Try that! If you do you will discover Toyota, or every other manufacturer
will refer you back to your SELLING dealer for settlement of you warranty
problem(s).

You really should do more research before continuing to comment on a subject
of which you obviously have little or no knowledge. If you do, perhaps you
will not appear so foolish so often

"Mark A" <someone (AT) someone (DOT) com> wrote

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"CharlesTheCurmudgeon" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Yes, I got hit in the face with that with my first Toyota.

I was in a job that kept moving me, and at each service interval I was in
a different community with a different dealer. Each one wanted me to
take it back to where I bought it to have it serviced, even the regular
routine maintenance. But 'tis true, all of them were also GM dealers.
And driving it back to where I bought it wasn't possible at that time
with the job I had then. But this was back in 1979-1981.

Sir Charles the Curmudgeon.

That is not the case anymore, at least not for Toyota or Honda. You can
take it to any authorized dealer for warranty repairs. Of course, they can
give regular customers some priority in scheduling if it is not
unreasonable. The dealer has the right to refuse non-warranty work if they
really want to, but unless they are under-staffed, they normally will not
refuse work. Usually, if any business continuously has more customers than
they can handle, they just raise their prices until an equilibrium is
achieved.

If a dealer gives you a hard time about warranty repairs, I would call the
Toyota Motor immediately and get them to bust the balls of the dealership.

#15

On Jan 3, 1:18*pm, "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote:

Quote:

Try that! * *If you do you will discover Toyota, or every other manufacturer
will refer you back to your SELLING dealer for settlement of you warranty
problem(s).

Not necessarily. A car may be brought to any dealer for service.

Quote:

You really should do more research before continuing to comment on a subject
of which you obviously have little or no knowledge. * If you do, perhaps you
will not appear so foolish so often

You should know about appearing foolish. Just ask the commerce
department about VINs or about the role of Vice President in the
legislature.

Jeff

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"CharlesTheCurmudgeon" <n5... (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Yes, I got hit in the face with that with my first Toyota.

I was in a job that kept moving me, and at each service interval I wasin
a different community with a different dealer. *Each one wanted me to
take it back to where I bought it to have it serviced, even the regular
routine maintenance. *But 'tis true, all of them were also GM dealers.
And driving it back to where I bought it wasn't possible at that time
with the job I had then. * *But this was back in 1979-1981.

Sir Charles the Curmudgeon.

That is not the case anymore, at least not for Toyota or Honda. You can
take it to any authorized dealer for warranty repairs. Of course, they can
give regular customers some priority in scheduling if it is not
unreasonable. The dealer has the right to refuse non-warranty work if they
really want to, but unless they are under-staffed, they normally will not
refuse work. Usually, if any business continuously has more customers than
they can handle, they just raise their prices until an equilibrium is
achieved.

If a dealer gives you a hard time about warranty repairs, I would call the
Toyota Motor immediately and get them to bust the balls of the dealership.

#16

What does that have to do with a complaint to the manufacture? The point
of the thread was that the manufacturers warrant the vehicles to their
dealerships. Try to keep up, WBMA

"Jeff" <jeff.utz (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

On Jan 3, 1:18 pm, "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote:

Quote:

Try that! If you do you will discover Toyota, or every other manufacturer
will refer you back to your SELLING dealer for settlement of you warranty
problem(s).

Not necessarily. A car may be brought to any dealer for service.

Quote:

If a dealer gives you a hard time about warranty repairs, I would call
the
Toyota Motor immediately and get them to bust the balls of the
dealership.

#17

On Jan 7, 8:55*pm, me <noem... (AT) nothere (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:00:35 -0500, "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com
wrote:

What does that have to do with a complaint to the manufacture? * The point
of the thread was that the manufacturers warrant the vehicles to their
dealerships. * Try to keep up, WBMA

No they don't. The warranty is to the consumer who purchases the car.
That's Federal Law. *

Please provide ANY support AT ALL for your odd statements.

First, please don't call his statements "odd." Pot, meet kettle. Or,
please support your statements about the role of the Vice President or
the role of VINs.

However, in this case, you're correct (even a stopped clock is correct
twice a day).

From the Lincoln Warranty Guide (every car maker has a similar
statement): Ford Motor Company and your selling dealer thank you for
selecting
one of our quality products. Our commitment to you and your vehicle
begins with quality protection and service.

When you need warranty repairs, your selling dealer would like you to
return to it for that service, but you may also take your vehicle to
another Ford Motor Company dealership authorized to service Lincoln
vehicles.

You can take your vehicle to any dealer that is authorized for the
particular service. This is true for GM and and the other makers, as
well.

Jeff

#18

Thus spake Jeff <jeff.utz (AT) gmail (DOT) com> :

Quote:

On Jan 7, 8:55*pm, me <noem... (AT) nothere (DOT) com> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:00:35 -0500, "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com
wrote:

What does that have to do with a complaint to the manufacture? * The point
of the thread was that the manufacturers warrant the vehicles to their
dealerships. * Try to keep up, WBMA

No they don't. The warranty is to the consumer who purchases the car.
That's Federal Law. *

Please provide ANY support AT ALL for your odd statements.

First, please don't call his statements "odd." Pot, meet kettle. Or,
please support your statements about the role of the Vice President or
the role of VINs.

However, in this case, you're correct (even a stopped clock is correct
twice a day).

From the Lincoln Warranty Guide (every car maker has a similar
statement): Ford Motor Company and your selling dealer thank you for
selecting
one of our quality products. Our commitment to you and your vehicle
begins with quality protection and service.

When you need warranty repairs, your selling dealer would like you to
return to it for that service, but you may also take your vehicle to
another Ford Motor Company dealership authorized to service Lincoln
vehicles.

You can take your vehicle to any dealer that is authorized for the
particular service. This is true for GM and and the other makers, as
well.

Jeff

Service departments are totally seperate profit centers from sales.
Yes, the dealer would like you to get service from them, but I bought
my Honda from Howdy, but First Texas is much more convenient. And
they welcome me with open arms.

The manufactorer pays the service department a set amount for a
particular service. Yes, the service department would like to get
paid more (I WANT to get paid more), but money in is money in. It's
just less profit. But service is still a profit center. Sometimes
the only profit center.
--
- dillon I am not invalid

When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams come true.
Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which
will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no
matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor.

#19

So what's your point? Everyone who reads the warranty manual knows
manufactures warrant their vehicles to their dealers. You comment should
have been address to those that think differently

"Jeff" <jeff.utz (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

From the Lincoln Warranty Guide (every car maker has a similar
statement): Ford Motor Company and your selling dealer thank you for
selecting
one of our quality products. Our commitment to you and your vehicle
begins with quality protection and service.

When you need warranty repairs, your selling dealer would like you to
return to it for that service, but you may also take your vehicle to
another Ford Motor Company dealership authorized to service Lincoln
vehicles.

You can take your vehicle to any dealer that is authorized for the
particular service. This is true for GM and and the other makers, as
well.

Jeff

#20

See Jeff, this is the fellow you need to enlighten LOL

From the Lincoln Warranty Guide (every car maker has a similar
statement): Ford Motor Company and your selling dealer thank you for
selecting
one of our quality products. Our commitment to you and your vehicle
begins with quality protection and service.

When you need warranty repairs, your selling dealer would like you to
return to it for that service, but you may also take your vehicle to
another Ford Motor Company dealership authorized to service Lincoln
vehicles.

You can take your vehicle to any dealer that is authorized for the
particular service. This is true for GM and and the other makers, as
well.

Jeff

"me" <noemail (AT) nothere (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:00:35 -0500, "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com
wrote:

What does that have to do with a complaint to the manufacture? The point
of the thread was that the manufacturers warrant the vehicles to their
dealerships. Try to keep up, WBMA

No they don't. The warranty is to the consumer who purchases the car.
That's Federal Law.

Please provide ANY support AT ALL for your odd statements.