Thus spake me <noemail (AT) nothere (DOT) com> :

You, sir, have a strange sense of humor. Not Monty Python, not Benny
Hill. More like (prepare for Godwin's Law) Adolph Hitler.

Sorry dude, no knock on you. At this point, it's useless. He can't
see the truth, no matter how hard we push his face in to it.
--
- dillon I am not invalid

When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams come true.
Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which
will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no
matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor.

To which I ask, if the purchaser was warranted, don't you think that it
would be stated in the warranty manual?

You are free to believe whatever you wish, but the manufacture warrants the
vehicle to it dealer(s,) not the owners as I have tried to explain numerous
times.
LOL

"Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpyron (AT) austin (DOT) rr.com> wrote

Stop acting like a jerk (I am giving you the benefit of the doubt when I say
you are only *acting* like a jerk) and giving people information that YOU
BELIEVE to be true.

The auto warranty IS between the car makers and their DEALER(S!) If I am
incorrect, please provide real evidence.


"Jeff" <jeff.utz (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

On Jan 11, 4:44 pm, "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote:
If the warranty is to the dealer, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act
requires this fact to be stated in the warranty documents. It isn't.

Stop acting like a jerk (I am giving you the benefit of the doubt when
I sat that you are only *acting* like a jerk) and giving people
information that you make that is completely false.

The auto warranties are between the car makers and the buyers. If I am
incorrect, please provide real evidence.

Jeff

And where does it say that the OWNER is warranted here?

"In the United States (We Include U.S.
Possessions and Territories as Part of
the United States for Warranty Purposes):
Warranty service MUST be done by an AUTHORIZED
CHRYSLER, DODGE or JEEP DEALER. We strongly
RECOMMEND that you take your vehicle to your
SELLING DEALER. They know you and your vehicle
best, and are most concerned that you get
prompt and high quality service. If you MOVE
within the United States, warranty service may
be requested from any authorized Chrysler,
Dodge or Jeep dealer."


"Jeff" <jeff.utz (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

On Jan 11, 4:44 pm, "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote:
Then why does the warranties talk about transferring the warranty to
new owners of the car or truck? Why would there be any need to
transfer the warranty? And, if you were correct, wouldn't the wording
of the warranties reflect that the warranty is to the dealers?

And why does the Chrysler warranty have this language? "You are
covered by the Basic Limited Warranty if
you are a purchaser for use of the vehicle."

And where does it say that the dealer is warranted here?

"In the United States (We Include U.S.
Possessions and Territories as Part of
the United States for Warranty Purposes):
Warranty service must be done by an authorized
Chrysler, Dodge or Jeep dealer. We strongly
recommend that you take your vehicle to your
Selling Dealer. They know you and your vehicle
best, and are most concerned that you get
prompt and high quality service. If you move
within the United States, warranty service may
be requested from any authorized Chrysler,
Dodge or Jeep dealer."

If the selling dealer is warranted, don't you think that that would be
stated in the warranty manual?

And GM says that if you buy a GM car, *you* get a 100,000 mi
powertrain warranty. Not your dealer.

Get a clue, if you can old man.

Jeff

"Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpyron (AT) austin (DOT) rr.com> wrote

Or self-righteous arseholes like Mike Hunter who think that because he has
the gold, he can make the rules.

Sir Charles the Curmudgeon

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote

What you are saying makes no sense Mike. The warranty is to the
vehicle purchaser. The dealer acts as the agent for the manufacturer.
I can take my broken Ford, that is under warranty, to any Ford dealer
for repairs. They will do the work that Ford allows and then get
reimbursed by Ford. The warranty is granted by the manufacturer to the
purchaser of the vehicle and is transferable to subsequent purchasers.

Ed

As I said I could not care less what someone in a NG chooses to believe but
if you actually READ your new car Limited Warranty you will see it said;
Your (manufacturer) and (Brand) dealer(s) warrants etc. If the warranty
was between the buyer and the manufacturer it would be a contract, just like
the agreements between the buyer and his finance source, it is a contract
with the dealers

Call your attorney and ask him if ONE party of a contract can change ANY
part of a contract. If you actually READ your new car Limited Warranty,
under "Limitations and Disclaimers" you will see it said "With the exception
of implied warranty under federal and state laws (manufacturer) and (Brand)
dealer(s) reserves the right to make changes and or additions to vehicles
built and sold by them at any time etc.

You have a contract with your insurance company to repairer you damaged car.
If the insurance company wants to use less than new parts to repair it, you
can demand NEW parts on YOUR new car but a car warranty says otherwise.
The reason being the warranty is NOT a contract with you, it is with the
dealer(s.)


"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop (AT) nastydesigns (DOT) com> wrote

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:47:28 -0500, "C. E. White"
<cewhite3 (AT) removemindspring (DOT) com> wrote:

We should just let this thread die Ed. Mike either really enjoys
seeing people respond to what he says or he's so stupid that the facts
will never make an impression on him. I think it boosts his ego to
see his name in print and he will never acknowledge the facts if it
keeps the thread going.

Jack j

I'll say it again, I could not care less what someone in a NG chooses to
believe. I KNOW warranties are to the dealer(s,) not the owner.

I worked as a field Engineer at the Pa VW plant, as such was involved in
settling disputed warranty claims. In addition I processed thousand of
warranty claims, with mutable manufactures, doing the ten years I owned my
fleet service business. You and others are free to believe whatever you
wish, I'm done wasting my time on this



"me" <noemail (AT) nothere (DOT) com> wrote

Thus spake "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> :

Read this:

http://www.autosafety.org/the-magnuson-moss-warranty-act%E2%80%93-an-overview

Note, the warranty protects THE CONSUMER and is between THE CONSUMER
and the warrantor.

And "the consumer" is expressly listed as anyone who purchases the
product for other than resale.

Read the fucking law. For that matter, read the fucking contract. Or
at least the warranty disclosure. Little things like "you have
certain rights under Federal and State laws." Not the dealer, YOU!!!


- dillon I am not invalid

When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams come true.
Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which
will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no
matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor.