Re: Import owners are to blame for the recession

#11

"SMS" <scharf.steven (AT) geemail (DOT) com> wrote

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Dioclese wrote:

I guess we can assume you did not see the "L" or the little buton that

lowers the ratio?

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We rented a Chrysler mini-van last summer (because the size car we
reserved wasn't available), OMG. Cruising down the mountain from Idaho
into Wyoming I wanted to put it into 2nd gear so I didn't have to ride the
brakes, but guess what? There's no more PRNDL or PRND21. It's now PRND.
Talk about decontenting!

#12

Mike Hunter wrote:

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"SMS" <scharf.steven (AT) geemail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Dioclese wrote:

I guess we can assume you did not see the "L" or the little buton that
lowers the ratio?

Where is it? I looked around, certain that they must have some way to
lower the ratio, but I couldn't find it. If it is there, then it's just
one more example of the lack of human factors engineering and ergonomics
that Detroit has become famous for. I shouldn't have to look for how to
shift into low, or read a manual to figure it out, it should be an
obvious choice on the gear selector. G-d invented PRNDL, who is Chrysler
to take it away?

#13

Denial is not a river is Egypt

"C. E. White" <cewhite3 (AT) removemindspring (DOT) com> wrote

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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote in message
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You as an American taxpayer should consider the fact Japanese
corporations do not pay US federal Corporate income taxes on the profits
earned in the US.

This is not true. Saying it over and over again doesn't make it true
either.

Ed

#14

Since I bought my last of many import brands in 1997, I have not owned a
single domestic that had ANY problems.

"trailer" <dummy (AT) dum (DOT) com> wrote

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I would like to purchase an American car when I shop again.

However, I feel like, when buying American, 'You pays your money, you
takes
your chances'.

buydomestic (AT) usa (DOT) com> wrote in message
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If all Americans bought American cars, the US economy would be rockin
and rollin right now. Don't give me that stuff about Toyota and Honda
manufacturing over here either. GM employs 130,000 in the United
States. Toyota employs 30,000, Honda less than that. Most of the
import jobs are just blue collar jobs also, where GM has over 50,000
engineers. The Japanese automakers have brainwashed us into thinking
that buying their car is an investment in this country. I say we buy
from the Big Three and take our economy back.

#15

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote

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Denial is not a river is Egypt

My point exactly. You make up crap and when it is pointed out you run
and hide. Stand up, prove it for a change. I know you won't, becasue
it isn't true. You probably know that also. Next reply from you will
be something like - "I don't do research for others," or "based on my
ten million years of experience in all industries doing everythign I
am absolutely right". What you should say is - "I made this crap up
and I am too stubborn to admit it."

Ed

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"C. E. White" <cewhite3 (AT) removemindspring (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote in message
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You as an American taxpayer should consider the fact Japanese
corporations do not pay US federal Corporate income taxes on the
profits earned in the US.

This is not true. Saying it over and over again doesn't make it
true either.

Ed

#16

Some folks are not too bright I guess. Try driving a VW 'automatic.' We
had a lady customer who drove her import for nearly three years in 'D'
because as she said I never drive over the speed limit. LOL

"SMS" <scharf.steven (AT) geemail (DOT) com> wrote

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Mike Hunter wrote:
"SMS" <scharf.steven (AT) geemail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Dioclese wrote:

I guess we can assume you did not see the "L" or the little buton that
lowers the ratio?

Where is it? I looked around, certain that they must have some way to
lower the ratio, but I couldn't find it. If it is there, then it's just
one more example of the lack of human factors engineering and ergonomics
that Detroit has become famous for. I shouldn't have to look for how to
shift into low, or read a manual to figure it out, it should be an obvious
choice on the gear selector. G-d invented PRNDL, who is Chrysler to take
it away?

#17

You're making excuses for lousy design. Stop. It's stupid.

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote

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Some folks are not too bright I guess. Try driving a VW 'automatic.'
We had a lady customer who drove her import for nearly three years in 'D'
because as she said I never drive over the speed limit. LOL

"SMS" <scharf.steven (AT) geemail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Mike Hunter wrote:
"SMS" <scharf.steven (AT) geemail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Dioclese wrote:

I guess we can assume you did not see the "L" or the little buton that
lowers the ratio?

Where is it? I looked around, certain that they must have some way to
lower the ratio, but I couldn't find it. If it is there, then it's just
one more example of the lack of human factors engineering and ergonomics
that Detroit has become famous for. I shouldn't have to look for how to
shift into low, or read a manual to figure it out, it should be an
obvious choice on the gear selector. G-d invented PRNDL, who is Chrysler
to take it away?

#18

You must be referring to those intelligent people that prefer GM vehicles.
GM offers more vehicles that get 30 MPG or more than ANY other manufacturer.
The full size pickups from both GM and Ford get better fuel mileage than do
the Tundra and Triton, as well. I guess that is why today more buys chose
GM vehicles than from ANY other manufacture. LOL

acd" <power (AT) manlymail (DOT) net> wrote

Intelligent people buy quality. They don't buy irrelevant pieces of
shit that get bad gas mileage.

#19

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote

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You must be referring to those intelligent people that prefer GM vehicles.
GM offers more vehicles that get 30 MPG or more than ANY other
manufacturer.

For how many years has this been true?

#20

You seem to be confused, buyer have always CHOSEN to buy what they buy. The
Ford F150 has been, for thirty one years and is still today, the number one
selling vehicle in the US. The F150 has always sold for the most part at a
rate nearly twice that of the best selling car. While Toyota had to shut
down its brand new Tundra plant built by the taxpayers of Texas, because of
dismal sales, Ford had to add two shifts to one of its F150 plants and a
second shift to another.

"Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpyron (AT) austin (DOT) rr.com> wrote

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Thus spake buydomestic (AT) usa (DOT) com :

If all Americans bought American cars, the US economy would be rockin
and rollin right now. Don't give me that stuff about Toyota and Honda
manufacturing over here either. GM employs 130,000 in the United
States. Toyota employs 30,000, Honda less than that. Most of the
import jobs are just blue collar jobs also, where GM has over 50,000
engineers. The Japanese automakers have brainwashed us into thinking
that buying their car is an investment in this country. I say we buy
from the Big Three and take our economy back.

Right. Like I want a Burb or an F150. Detroit pissed away their
survival years ago when they decided that they could sell low mileage,
high margin trucks. Now they're paying the price for looking at today
and ignoring tomorrow.