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Re: Import owners are to blame for the recession -
12-23-2008
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DUH You are WRONG, again * Why do you keep talking so stupid? * *Ford did not take federal loans and Toyota sales have been dropping at a greater rate than Ford sales. * F150 sales are up and Tundra sales are in the dumper LOL |
market cap of Toyota is over $90 billion.
What does that tell you?
Jeff
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"Gosi" <gos... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:c0d39f56-0552-4c3a-96ca-f0862ab02d74 (AT) b41g2000pra (DOT) googlegroups.com... On 22 Dec, 15:03, me <noem... (AT) nothere (DOT) com> wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:27:48 -0500, "Derek Gee" dgeeSPAMSU... (AT) twmi (DOT) INVALID.rr.com> wrote: Also, I'd agree that Ford quality has increased dramatically in some areas. In fact, Ford was the only one of the Big-3 to adopt "total quality management" some time ago - albeit still 30 years too late. Ford brought Dr. Deming himself to Dearborn to teach quality in 1981! The Japanese started just after WWII ended. Ford was one of the companies that spurned his ideas back then and for decades. They were 30 years behind the Japanese, joining a program that only pays off long term. (But way ahead of GM, who still doesn't get it). This is exactly why they are dead today. Took amazingly long time but it is good fun to see them fall now because of their stupid arrogance |
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DUH You are WRONG, again Why do you keep talking so stupid? Ford did not take federal loans and Toyota sales have been dropping at a greater rate than Ford sales. F150 sales are up and Tundra sales are in the dumper LOL |
your own facts.
"Sales of the F-150 pickup trucks, including the F-Series Super Duty
trucks made at Kentucky Truck Plant, also continued to slide in
November.
Ford sold 37,911 units, down 18.6 percent from November 2007, when it
sold 46,568 units. That is an 18.6 percent decline. Ford combines
F-150 truck sales with Super Duty sales for reporting purposes."
http://www.bizjournals.com/louisville/stories/2008/12/01/daily22.html
Maybe Toyota will buy the pickup business from Ford and Jeep from
Chrysler. I can't even think of anything GM owns that Toyota or Honda
would want. The rest of the US auto industry is worth less than the
inventory rotting on dealer lots.
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| "Gosi" <gosinn (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:c0d39f56-0552-4c3a-96ca-f0862ab02d74 (AT) b41g2000pra (DOT) googlegroups.com... On 22 Dec, 15:03, me <noem... (AT) nothere (DOT) com> wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:27:48 -0500, "Derek Gee" dgeeSPAMSU... (AT) twmi (DOT) INVALID.rr.com> wrote: Also, I'd agree that Ford quality has increased dramatically in some areas. In fact, Ford was the only one of the Big-3 to adopt "total quality management" some time ago - albeit still 30 years too late. Ford brought Dr. Deming himself to Dearborn to teach quality in 1981! The Japanese started just after WWII ended. Ford was one of the companies that spurned his ideas back then and for decades. They were 30 years behind the Japanese, joining a program that only pays off long term. (But way ahead of GM, who still doesn't get it). This is exactly why they are dead today. Took amazingly long time but it is good fun to see them fall now because of their stupid arrogance |
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DUH You are WRONG, again Why do you keep talking so stupid? Ford did not take federal loans and Toyota sales have been dropping at a greater rate than Ford sales. F150 sales are up and Tundra sales are in the dumper LOL |
market cap of Toyota is over $90 billion.
What does that tell you?
Jeff
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"Gosi" <gos... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:c0d39f56-0552-4c3a-96ca-f0862ab02d74 (AT) b41g2000pra (DOT) googlegroups.com... On 22 Dec, 15:03, me <noem... (AT) nothere (DOT) com> wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:27:48 -0500, "Derek Gee" dgeeSPAMSU... (AT) twmi (DOT) INVALID.rr.com> wrote: Also, I'd agree that Ford quality has increased dramatically in some areas. In fact, Ford was the only one of the Big-3 to adopt "total quality management" some time ago - albeit still 30 years too late. Ford brought Dr. Deming himself to Dearborn to teach quality in 1981! The Japanese started just after WWII ended. Ford was one of the companies that spurned his ideas back then and for decades. They were 30 years behind the Japanese, joining a program that only pays off long term. (But way ahead of GM, who still doesn't get it). This is exactly why they are dead today. Took amazingly long time but it is good fun to see them fall now because of their stupid arrogance |
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:57:43 -0500, Starscream dead_decepticon (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: 80 Knight wrote: "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:giqfca$69s$1 (AT) news (DOT) motzarella.org... And I remembered something about the S-10 that I forgot. If you left the dome light on for 8 hours, your battery was dead, especially in winter. I had to get it jumped once because of that feature. Wow, what an awful feature. Who would've thought that leaving the interior lights on for several hours would kill the battery? I think I found the problem. Chuck, you are a fucking idiot. Please keep your Toyota. I feel better driving a GM knowing you aren't. Leaving the dome light on *SHOULD NOT* prevent the car from starting, unless there was a problem with the battery itself. Since batteries aren't manufactured by carmakers, GM is not to blame. Except GM owns AC Delco and also spec's the battery. The Chevy also likely has a brighter dome light? That said, the Jap batteries are among the best out there (yuasa in particular) and Delco among the worst (particularly the "freedom battery" |
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On domestic cars today the interior lights off automatically after a set period of time.  clare (AT) snyder (DOT) on.ca> wrote in message news  heil4t9g25ob7jfr5mb3u71b2a9otcpg8 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:57:43 -0500, Starscream dead_decepticon (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: 80 Knight wrote: "CharlesTheCurmudgeon" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:giqfca$69s$1 (AT) news (DOT) motzarella.org... And I remembered something about the S-10 that I forgot. If you left the dome light on for 8 hours, your battery was dead, especially in winter. I had to get it jumped once because of that feature. Wow, what an awful feature. Who would've thought that leaving the interior lights on for several hours would kill the battery? I think I found the problem. Chuck, you are a fucking idiot. Please keep your Toyota. I feel better driving a GM knowing you aren't. Leaving the dome light on *SHOULD NOT* prevent the car from starting, unless there was a problem with the battery itself. Since batteries aren't manufactured by carmakers, GM is not to blame. Except GM owns AC Delco and also spec's the battery. The Chevy also likely has a brighter dome light? That said, the Jap batteries are among the best out there (yuasa in particular) and Delco among the worst (particularly the "freedom battery" |
it did. It also had 2 wheel (rear-only) ABS, which was a total piece of
crap. There were many times I wasn't stopping in a straight line on a
slippery surface that the rear tried to pass the front! First time it did
that, I nearly drove it down to the dealer and put it through his front
window just to show him what a piece of worthless dung it was.
Sir Charles the Curmudgeon
OTOH, my Corolla doesn't either, but it's not trying to power a freeking
kleig light to illuminate the passenger compartment brighter than sunshine.
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