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Default Re: Never change your oil? You get what you deserve - 05-03-2009 , 10:59 PM






Thus spake Tegger <invalid (AT) invalid (DOT) inv> :

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jim beam <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in
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Tegger wrote:
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop (AT) nastydesigns (DOT) com> wrote in
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like this Saturn rental:

http://jalopnik.com/5235675/saturn-rental-car-never-gets-oil-change-e
ngin e-carnage-ensues-after-30000-miles




Let's fix that link up a bit...
http://jalopnik.com/5235675/saturn-rental-car-never-gets-oil-change-e
ngine-carnage-ensues-after-30000-miles


My own site has a few interesting pics:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/sludge/index.html
and
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/sludge/cleaning_sludge.html



the funny thing is though, neither of those two engines show signs of
extraordinary wear. sludge, yes. [typical of short trip stuff where
the motor doesn't warm up properly.] should they have changed their
oil, yes. but those cams are not distressed so no mechanical harm
done.




I was told (by more than one mechanic) that so long as the oil pickup
screen isn't plugged, engines can survive a lot of sludge. What ultimately
kills them is blockage of the oil pickup screen.
Or a plugged passage. All it takes is one to make a mess out of a
bearing, which ...
--

- dillon I am not invalid

The RMS Titanic sank on April 15th. US income taxes
are due on April 15th. Coincidence? I think not.



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Default Re: Never change your oil? You get what you deserve - 05-03-2009 , 11:24 PM








Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
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In article <wv2dne7lMa_TAGDUnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d (AT) speakeasy (DOT) net>,
jim beam <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote:


conclusion: 3k on synthetic is crazy.


well, he DID say it was recreational.

I think fishing is crazy, but...


Ahhhh, but fishing usually is therapy... For henpecked husbands!

Uddah din dat, I kompleatley agree.

<G>

JT


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Default Re: Never change your oil? You get what you deserve - 05-03-2009 , 11:28 PM





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"L Alpert" <alpertl (AT) xxgmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:syhLl.17728$D32.10787
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"Tegger" <invalid (AT) invalid (DOT) inv> wrote in message
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People who let their oil go that long are not the sort to pay much
attention to how well the engine is running. Or else they studiously
ignore
any evident problems, perhaps in the hopes that they will go away on
their
own.



When I was a kid, I had an old Rambler that leaked/burned so much oil,
it was in a state of perpetual change.....





My old '76 Coronet burned a quart between gas fillups. I don't think I ever
"changed the oil" in the traditional way the whole time I had the car.

Worse car for oil consumption for me was a $50 Torino that achieved a
whoppin' 50 miles per quart. Then came a '76 Civic that average between
1-2K per quart. Of course, that car cost me $500!

JT


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Default Re: Never change your oil? You get what you deserve - 05-04-2009 , 07:23 AM



Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy (AT) ExtraGrumpyville (DOT) com> wrote in
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Tegger wrote:

"L Alpert" <alpertl (AT) xxgmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:syhLl.17728$D32.10787
@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com:


When I was a kid, I had an old Rambler that leaked/burned so much
oil, it was in a state of perpetual change.....





My old '76 Coronet burned a quart between gas fillups. I don't think
I ever "changed the oil" in the traditional way the whole time I had
the car.


Worse car for oil consumption for me was a $50 Torino that achieved a
whoppin' 50 miles per quart. Then came a '76 Civic that average
between 1-2K per quart. Of course, that car cost me $500!



Well, you get what you pay for, as the saying goes...



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


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Default Re: Never change your oil? You get what you deserve - 05-04-2009 , 08:11 AM




"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy (AT) ExtraGrumpyville (DOT) com> wrote

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"L Alpert" <alpertl (AT) xxgmail (DOT) com> wrote in
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People who let their oil go that long are not the sort to pay much
attention to how well the engine is running. Or else they
studiously ignore
any evident problems, perhaps in the hopes that they will go away
on their
own.



When I was a kid, I had an old Rambler that leaked/burned so much
oil, it was in a state of perpetual change.....





My old '76 Coronet burned a quart between gas fillups. I don't
think I ever "changed the oil" in the traditional way the whole
time I had the car.


Worse car for oil consumption for me was a $50 Torino that achieved
a whoppin' 50 miles per quart. Then came a '76 Civic that average
between 1-2K per quart. Of course, that car cost me $500!

The old Rambler I had I got for $75. It was a combination of puke
green and primer.
Quote:
JT



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Default Re: Never change your oil? You get what you deserve - 05-05-2009 , 12:07 AM





Tegger wrote:
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Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy (AT) ExtraGrumpyville (DOT) com> wrote in
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Tegger wrote:


"L Alpert" <alpertl (AT) xxgmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:syhLl.17728$D32.10787
@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com:


When I was a kid, I had an old Rambler that leaked/burned so much
oil, it was in a state of perpetual change.....





My old '76 Coronet burned a quart between gas fillups. I don't think
I ever "changed the oil" in the traditional way the whole time I had
the car.


Worse car for oil consumption for me was a $50 Torino that achieved a
whoppin' 50 miles per quart. Then came a '76 Civic that average
between 1-2K per quart. Of course, that car cost me $500!





Well, you get what you pay for, as the saying goes...



....and the saga continues; One day I decided to manipulate the vacuum
lines and confident that I had improved things set off for work. On the
way, I noticed a nice plume of smoke in the rear view mirror.

Later that night, I fired it up for the return trip home and I had gone
no farther than a half mile or so when the oil light came on. I managed
to drive that turd all the way home with no apparant ill effect(s).

The next day, dipstick showed nothing/nada/zilch. Put some pit oil (from
changes in my Studebakers) in and brought it up to level and got another
month out of it when I sent it up to the local wrecking yard.

I only wish that I had tapped into my ample supply of pit oil much
earlier...

JT


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Default Re: Never change your oil? You get what you deserve - 05-05-2009 , 12:09 AM





L Alpert wrote:

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"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy (AT) ExtraGrumpyville (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Tegger wrote:


"L Alpert" <alpertl (AT) xxgmail (DOT) com> wrote in
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"Tegger" <invalid (AT) invalid (DOT) inv> wrote in message
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People who let their oil go that long are not the sort to pay much
attention to how well the engine is running. Or else they
studiously ignore
any evident problems, perhaps in the hopes that they will go away
on their
own.



When I was a kid, I had an old Rambler that leaked/burned so much
oil, it was in a state of perpetual change.....





My old '76 Coronet burned a quart between gas fillups. I don't
think I ever "changed the oil" in the traditional way the whole
time I had the car.


Worse car for oil consumption for me was a $50 Torino that achieved
a whoppin' 50 miles per quart. Then came a '76 Civic that average
between 1-2K per quart. Of course, that car cost me $500!



The old Rambler I had I got for $75. It was a combination of puke
green and primer.


I replaced the turdbox Torino with a $300 Gremlin which actually wasn't
a bad car. Had the 258 six cylinder with two barrel and it went down
the road nicely. Rest was the main issue with that car..

JT



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Dillon Pyron
 
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Default Re: Never change your oil? You get what you deserve - 05-05-2009 , 12:39 PM



Thus spake Tegger <invalid (AT) invalid (DOT) inv> :

Quote:
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop (AT) nastydesigns (DOT) com> wrote in news:elmop-
24A819.11363403052009 (AT) mara100-84 (DOT) onlink.net:

In article <wv2dne7lMa_TAGDUnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d (AT) speakeasy (DOT) net>,
jim beam <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote:

conclusion: 3k on synthetic is crazy.

well, he DID say it was recreational.

I think fishing is crazy,




So is skydiving.
Sky diving and scuba diving have something very important in common.

When you suddenly run out of air, the fun stops.
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- dillon I am not invalid

The RMS Titanic sank on April 15th. US income taxes
are due on April 15th. Coincidence? I think not.



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Default Re: Never change your oil? You get what you deserve - 05-05-2009 , 07:43 PM





Dillon Pyron wrote:
Quote:
Thus spake Tegger <invalid (AT) invalid (DOT) inv> :


"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop (AT) nastydesigns (DOT) com> wrote in news:elmop-
24A819.11363403052009 (AT) mara100-84 (DOT) onlink.net:


In article <wv2dne7lMa_TAGDUnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d (AT) speakeasy (DOT) net>,
jim beam <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote:


conclusion: 3k on synthetic is crazy.

well, he DID say it was recreational.

I think fishing is crazy,




So is skydiving.


Sky diving and scuba diving have something very important in common.

When you suddenly run out of air, the fun stops.

Yeah, but a well trained SCUBA diver has options...

JT


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Default Re: Never change your oil? You get what you deserve - 05-06-2009 , 12:46 AM




"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy (AT) ExtraGrumpyville (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

L Alpert wrote:

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy (AT) ExtraGrumpyville (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Tegger wrote:


"L Alpert" <alpertl (AT) xxgmail (DOT) com> wrote in
news:syhLl.17728$D32.10787
@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com:



"Tegger" <invalid (AT) invalid (DOT) inv> wrote in message
news:Xns9C005663F6B06tegger (AT) 208 (DOT) 90.168.18...



People who let their oil go that long are not the sort to pay
much
attention to how well the engine is running. Or else they
studiously ignore
any evident problems, perhaps in the hopes that they will go
away on their
own.



When I was a kid, I had an old Rambler that leaked/burned so much
oil, it was in a state of perpetual change.....





My old '76 Coronet burned a quart between gas fillups. I don't
think I ever "changed the oil" in the traditional way the whole
time I had the car.


Worse car for oil consumption for me was a $50 Torino that achieved
a whoppin' 50 miles per quart. Then came a '76 Civic that average
between 1-2K per quart. Of course, that car cost me $500!



The old Rambler I had I got for $75. It was a combination of puke
green and primer.



I replaced the turdbox Torino with a $300 Gremlin which actually
wasn't a bad car. Had the 258 six cylinder with two barrel and it
went down the road nicely. Rest was the main issue with that car..

JT

A regular Wayne's World, eh....at least the Gremlin was ugly enough to
be cooler than the AMC Hornet.

My brother has a cache of older cars. Last I recall, he has a '60
Rambler (flat head 6) American, 65 Marlin, 73 Ambassador (327 ragtop)
an American Eagle 4 wheel drive wagon of early 70's vintage and 2
Subaru 360cc 2 cycle mini's from I believe a late 60's or early 70's
vintage. All of them are well kept......




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