Re: ping tegger

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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop (AT) nastydesigns (DOT) com> wrote in
news:elmop-593244.20451012042009 (AT) mara100-84 (DOT) onlink.net:

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Dug around my system and found your instructions for replacing the
cabin air filter on the 02 Ody.

I loved the bit about "Using your common sense, remove the rollers
from the sides of the glove box."

I was going to give a more detailed description of that step, but it was
getting really wordy, so I just discarded the whole thing and shortened
it to what you read.

Plus I figured if an owner was so non-mechanical that he needed a
step-by-step on something like that, he shouldn't be doing this work in
the first place. Evidently you passed the test. :^)

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(Of course, you forgot to mention using said same common sense to
reinstall said same rollers, but I was able to work through that. ;-)
)

The next car I buy, I will make the salesman remove and replace the
cabin air filter prior to my signing any sales agreement. He will do
it out in the parking lot, on the asphalt--sunny and hot, cloudy,
drizzly, whatever--the same way I will have to do it. If he can't do
it in under 2 minutes from start to finish (even better, one minute)
then too bad, so sad, I don't want that car.

Either that, or else it's a complimentary service every 30K miles for
the life of the car--like it should have been for this Ody.

I mean, really, Honda. Some marketing type came in at the last minute
after the second gen Ody design was written in stone and insisted on a
replaceable cabin air filter

Which is what I suspect as well.

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--at which point the engineers should have
beaten him with socks filled with sand and given him a swirly or two,
because there was no reasonable way to satisfy that request.

So they did it unreasonably. Honda should be ashamed of themselves.

Honda's not the only car company to do that, though.

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Even worse, Joe Schmoe walking into the dealer and asking for that
service will walk out $110-$120 lighter. $70 for the filter??? And
half an hour (or more!) for the labor? The first time, I asked my
mechanic to do it for me so I could watch. I brought the aftermarket
filter in myself and threw him a $20, and he did it. Takes him about
5 minutes,

I'll bet your guy also replaces CV joint boots in ten minutes.
Experience counts with this stuff. He knew exactly where he was going
with every step.

First time I ever removed a Macpherson strut, it took me an hour. The
second time it took 20 minutes. By the third time, it was five minutes.

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and that was the first time with cutting the plastic brace.
Here it is a couple years later, and I've seen it, and I have
Tegger's instructions in front of me, and it still takes me half an
hour--

Took me about half-hour too, as I recall. And that was with me going
slowly because I'd never done it before. It may take me that same length
of time again if the issue ever comes up, since it's been so long since
that last one I did.

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and even then I had to grab another pair of hands to help me get
that last rightmost glovebox mounting screw in, because the idjits at
Honda ran that wire harness RIGHT underneath it.

Can't remember what I did with that screw, but I don't remember having
that much trouble with it...

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I'm thinking of altering the metal brace such that a center piece can
be removed from it to give access to the filter cover. That still
doesn't fix the stupid glovebox screw on the left, though. I'll think
about that some more.

If it hadn't been a chilly 15F when I did that filter, I'd have gone
more slowly and taken pictures for everyone's edification.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

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