Rear-Ended; New Bumper?

#21

Thus spake z <gzuckier (AT) snail-mail (DOT) net> :

Quote:

On Jul 7, 3:19*pm, Brian Smith <Hali... (AT) NovaScotia (DOT) Canada> wrote:
Elle wrote:
Postscript: On reflecting on this accident and preventing it in the
future, and from reading Dan's post, I think one of the lessons here
is when there is a green light yet people ahead of one's car are not
moving, glance at the rear-view mirror throughout and see what people
in the back are doing. Maybe scoot the car up a little until people
start moving.

* * * * Yes moving forward when the vehicles in front of your vehicle haven't
moved would increase the odds of having your vehicle pushed into the
vehicle ahead of yours. Increasing the amount of damage to your vehicle
and involving other vehicles and people in the collision.

good rule of thumb when stopped, always leave enough space in front of
your car that you can see at least the rear bumper of the car in front
of you, so that a rear impact won't totally squish your car. you might
even be able to duck sideways out of the way. practice in your
driveway at such things helps. stuff you need to know when you drive a
civic in a world of suvs.

I have been taught (for at least the last 20 years) to see the bottom
of the tires in front of you, and to keep your foot on the brakes
until the guy behind you is stopped.

The bumper thing went out with 2&10
--

- dillon I am not invalid

"Jimmy, I'm sorry your girlfriend turned out
to be a cylon."
-Special Agent Tim McGee, "NCIS"

#22

Elle wrote:

Quote:

93 Civic DX sedan. It was a collision hard enough that the drawer
beneath the radio opened and sent the coin change I keep there flying.
As I got out, I thought I would find the Civic's rear would be partly
flattened. I was amazed that externally, the bumper only showed
scratches. The exhaust system is intact. Is the integrity of the foam
etc. in the bumper compromised, though, after a hard rear-ending?

The police made their report. I spoke with my insurance company last
night. While only once before (on another car 20 years ago) of several
rear-endings have I pursued a claim, this collision was so hard that I
am concerned.

If you are unhurt, just go for the cosmetic repair.

Of course if it were me, I'd be screamin' neck, back and other maladies
and interviewing sleazy lawyers!

JT

#23

On 2009-07-09, Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy (AT) ExtraGrumpyville (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

Elle wrote:
93 Civic DX sedan. It was a collision hard enough that the drawer
beneath the radio opened and sent the coin change I keep there flying.
As I got out, I thought I would find the Civic's rear would be partly
flattened. I was amazed that externally, the bumper only showed
scratches. The exhaust system is intact. Is the integrity of the foam
etc. in the bumper compromised, though, after a hard rear-ending?

The police made their report. I spoke with my insurance company last
night. While only once before (on another car 20 years ago) of several
rear-endings have I pursued a claim, this collision was so hard that I
am concerned.

If you are unhurt, just go for the cosmetic repair.

Of course if it were me, I'd be screamin' neck, back and other maladies
and interviewing sleazy lawyers!

Why's that?

--
Joe - Linux User #449481/Ubuntu User #19733
joe at hits - buffalo dot com
"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..." - Danny, American History X

#24

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy (AT) ExtraGrumpyville (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

Elle wrote:
93 Civic DX sedan. It was a collision hard enough that the drawer
beneath the radio opened and sent the coin change I keep there flying.
As I got out, I thought I would find the Civic's rear would be partly
flattened. I was amazed that externally, the bumper only showed
scratches. The exhaust system is intact. Is the integrity of the foam
etc. in the bumper compromised, though, after a hard rear-ending?

The police made their report. I spoke with my insurance company last
night. While only once before (on another car 20 years ago) of several
rear-endings have I pursued a claim, this collision was so hard that I
am concerned.

If you are unhurt, just go for the cosmetic repair.

Of course if it were me, I'd be screamin' neck, back and other maladies
and interviewing sleazy lawyers!

JT

Not to mention, the sudden onset of impotence and insomnia !

#25

z wrote:

Quote:

good rule of thumb when stopped, always leave enough space in front of
your car that you can see at least the rear bumper of the car in front
of you, so that a rear impact won't totally squish your car. you might
even be able to duck sideways out of the way. practice in your
driveway at such things helps. stuff you need to know when you drive a
civic in a world of suvs.

An even thing to do is to stay back so that you are able to see the
bottom of the tires of the vehicle in front of yours. This allows you
enough room to cut your wheels and to drive around that vehicle should
the need arise, whether due to another vehicle approaching yours from
the rear faster than it can stop or if the vehicle in front stalls and
doesn't move when the light changes. This works for any size of vehicle
by the way from a Smart Car or a tractor trailer truck.

#26

Joe wrote:

Quote:

Why's that?

It's the American way. You must recognize their battle cry, SUE, SUE,
SUE! :^)

#27

On 2009-07-09, Brian Smith <Halifax (AT) NovaScotia (DOT) Canada> wrote:

Quote:

Joe wrote:

Why's that?

It's the American way. You must recognize their battle cry, SUE, SUE,
SUE! :^)

I recognize the battle cry, just never understood the selfish
reasoning. People never fail to prove to me that my expectations are
too high. And they're not very high at all...

--
Joe - Linux User #449481/Ubuntu User #19733
joe at hits - buffalo dot com
"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..." - Danny, American History X

#28

On 7/9/09 5:44 AM, in article h34hmf$tr6$20 (AT) news (DOT) datemas.de, "Brian Smith"
<Halifax (AT) NovaScotia (DOT) Canada> wrote:

Quote:

z wrote:

good rule of thumb when stopped, always leave enough space in front of
your car that you can see at least the rear bumper of the car in front
of you, so that a rear impact won't totally squish your car. you might
even be able to duck sideways out of the way. practice in your
driveway at such things helps. stuff you need to know when you drive a
civic in a world of suvs.

An even thing to do is to stay back so that you are able to see the
bottom of the tires of the vehicle in front of yours. This allows you
enough room to cut your wheels and to drive around that vehicle should
the need arise, whether due to another vehicle approaching yours from
the rear faster than it can stop or if the vehicle in front stalls and
doesn't move when the light changes. This works for any size of vehicle
by the way from a Smart Car or a tractor trailer truck.

That all sounds great, totally reasonable & in fact, driver's ed in 1965
taught the bumper rule. If you try it around here (Dallas), one of several
things will happen every time: another car will try to pull into the gap
between you and the car in front if that gap appears big enough; the cars
behind you will start honking because you are blocking access to the turn
lane by being stopped so far back; the driver behind you will stop, get out
of the car and come up and start yelling (like they do in D.C.). I have
found the half-car-length rule to be more practical & just as safe.

#29

Joe wrote:

Quote:

I recognize the battle cry, just never understood the selfish
reasoning. People never fail to prove to me that my expectations are
too high. And they're not very high at all...

I don't understand the mentality of it either, Joe. The world is driven
by greed and greedy people seem to be driven to the extreme rather than
by reason.

#30

E. Meyer wrote:

Quote:

That all sounds great, totally reasonable & in fact, driver's ed in 1965
taught the bumper rule. If you try it around here (Dallas), one of several
things will happen every time: another car will try to pull into the gap
between you and the car in front if that gap appears big enough; the cars
behind you will start honking because you are blocking access to the turn
lane by being stopped so far back; the driver behind you will stop, get out
of the car and come up and start yelling (like they do in D.C.). I have
found the half-car-length rule to be more practical & just as safe.

The space between vehicles is not great enough for any idiot to think
about squeezing into, there just isn't room.

As far as blowing horns and people walking up to "chat" that's fine and
easy to ignore.