Revitalized Malibu Takes on Accord and Camry

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"Björn" <gosinn (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

On 19 Apr, 08:35, "Sharx35" <shar... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el... (AT) nastydesigns (DOT) com> wrote in
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In article <XbwGl.24206$PH1.12979@edtnps82>,
"Sharx35" <shar... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

That TEN year old Camry only has 130,000 kilometres on
it and is in MINT condition. WHY should I get a newer vehicle?

Some good reasons:

* to get newer safety features, so that you get more safety

I have enough safety, thank you.

* your needs have changed--maybe you need a van or truck

Nope.

Some bad reasons:

* "because I want to"

* "because I deserve it"

* "Well, Mr. Sharx, that's only $430/month. Just sign right here."

Those last 3 reasons are put of the big credit problem in North America.
Clue: one can NOT buy happiness.

But you can buy a lot of assholes and friends.
--------
Hey, if you have hard cash money, you can buy whatever you want. It
represents freedom, liberty and low worries. Assholes are a dime a dozen,
like you because you do not see it. Or maybe you do see it and screwed up
your own misserable life.

And like GM, you now want others to pay for it. LOL.

#32

"Canuck57" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote

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"Sharx35" <sharx35 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

That TEN year old Camry only has 130,000 kilometres on
it and is in MINT condition. WHY should I get a newer vehicle?

There is not a car in the world with that many kilometers/miles in MINT
condition. Learn to use the definition properly for better credibility.

Reasons it is NOT mint:
Wear on the brake pedal
Wear on tires, wiper blades
Pitting on the windshield
Seat cover wear
Weather-stripping wear or compression
Dust in the engine compartment
Oil anyplace at all
Brake pad and rotor wear
Dirty mats

And hundreds more.

I think you missed Sharx35's point.

For the price of one car payment or much less you can fix all of the
above. And brakes don't need to be replaced every month. Most people
spend far too much on autos and I too have been guilty of this, just not
as bad as most.

And if you take care of them, buy a well made one like many Honda or
Toyota, semi-heated garage, keep the maintenance up etc., 200,000 miles
should be easy to get. And if you do take good care of them and buy a
good quality model right off, you will likely spend 1/2 of what others pay
for auto. In a lifetime that adds up to a nice chunk of change.

You missed the point of Edwin's post. As you are probably aware from
hanging around here - most of us are quite familiar with the concept of
maintaining and driving a car for 200,000 miles. We're also very familiar
with the claims of a car being "Mint".

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#33

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE (AT) windstream (DOT) net> wrote

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"Sharx35" <sharx35 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

That TEN year old Camry only has 130,000 kilometres on
it and is in MINT condition. WHY should I get a newer vehicle?

There is not a car in the world with that many kilometers/miles in MINT
condition. Learn to use the definition properly for better credibility.

Reasons it is NOT mint:
Wear on the brake pedal
Wear on tires, wiper blades
Pitting on the windshield
Seat cover wear
Weather-stripping wear or compression
Dust in the engine compartment
Oil anyplace at all
Brake pad and rotor wear
Dirty mats

And hundreds more.

I think you missed Sharx35's point.

For the price of one car payment or much less you can fix all of the
above. And brakes don't need to be replaced every month. Most people
spend far too much on autos and I too have been guilty of this, just not
as bad as most.

And if you take care of them, buy a well made one like many Honda or
Toyota, semi-heated garage, keep the maintenance up etc., 200,000 miles
should be easy to get. And if you do take good care of them and buy a
good quality model right off, you will likely spend 1/2 of what others
pay for auto. In a lifetime that adds up to a nice chunk of change.

You missed the point of Edwin's post. As you are probably aware from
hanging around here - most of us are quite familiar with the concept of
maintaining and driving a car for 200,000 miles. We're also very familiar
with the claims of a car being "Mint".

Mint to me means well kept, not abused, low wear and tear and well
maintained. Often used in the lax form, as not too many people buy them,
then flat bed them to a warehouse for the strict use.

Sore people are being more efficient with auto? Government, banks and auto
are the most expensive items in peoples lives, good to see the public is
waking up, all it took is a good recession.

#34

"Canuck57" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message

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Mint to me means well kept, not abused, low wear and tear and well
maintained. Often used in the lax form, as not too many people buy them,
then flat bed them to a warehouse for the strict use.

That makes you wrong too. Talk to a collector and they will laugh at what
you call mint. By your definition, it may be Good or even Excellent, but
not Mint. Any visible wear takes it out of the Mint category.

You can call a lump of coal a diamond, but it won't shine any brighter.

#35

"Canuck57" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message

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I think you missed Sharx35's point.

For the price of one car payment or much less you can fix all of the
above. And brakes don't need to be replaced every month. Most people
spend far too much on autos and I too have been guilty of this, just not
as bad as most.

No, I missed no point. Yes, you can fix all of the above for a car payment,
but the car will still not be "mint". Black, white, not even a hint of
gray.

#36

Mike Marlow wrote:

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"Sharx35" <sharx35 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Hmmm. My Camry is only ten years old so I won't be in the market for at
least another SEVEN years. Hypothetically, though, instead of the 99CE 6
cyl. I have, I might go for a new, closer to the top of the line Camry. To
me, Honda is overpriced.

Who would want to driver around in an 17 year old car? 10 years is past old
enough.

Me, for one... actually I think cars got past the point of diminshing
returns with added technology before then. My personal car is an '88
944 and I don't know that there's anything newer than that that I'd want
that doesn't cost a silly amount of money. If/when it dies I will
probably replace it with something used and cheap.

nate

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Sharx35 wrote:

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If I WANTED a sports car I would NOT buy any Honda product.

Then what would you buy in the same price range as an equivalent
Honda product?

Hmmm. My Camry is only ten years old so I won't be in the market for
at least another SEVEN years. Hypothetically, though, instead of the
99CE 6 cyl. I have, I might go for a new, closer to the top of the
line Camry. To me, Honda is overpriced.

You haven't answered the question.

The question was: What "sports car" would you buy that is within the
Honda
price range, but is not a Honda?

Simple. I'm long past the mid-life crazies so I would NOT buy a sports car.

Some people just buy sports cars because they're typically small and
therefore easier to handle in a city; they handle well; they're
generally fun to drive.

If I have to spend hours of my day trapped in a rolling box, I might as
well enjoy it, rather than making it feel like a chore...

nate

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#38

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Quote:

"Sharx35" <sharx35 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

That TEN year old Camry only has 130,000 kilometres on
it and is in MINT condition. WHY should I get a newer vehicle?

There is not a car in the world with that many kilometers/miles in MINT
condition. Learn to use the definition properly for better credibility.

Reasons it is NOT mint:
Wear on the brake pedal
Wear on tires, wiper blades
Pitting on the windshield
Seat cover wear
Weather-stripping wear or compression
Dust in the engine compartment
Oil anyplace at all
Brake pad and rotor wear
Dirty mats

And hundreds more.

Actually 130K is only about 80K miles; that's hardly getting broken in
for a decent machine.

nate

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#39

"Ed Pawlowski" <esp (AT) snet (DOT) net> wrote

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"Canuck57" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message
Mint to me means well kept, not abused, low wear and tear and well
maintained. Often used in the lax form, as not too many people buy them,
then flat bed them to a warehouse for the strict use.

That makes you wrong too. Talk to a collector and they will laugh at what
you call mint. By your definition, it may be Good or even Excellent, but
not Mint. Any visible wear takes it out of the Mint category.

You can call a lump of coal a diamond, but it won't shine any brighter.

By your definition, right off the lot it looses mint status. Thus no mints
really exist. Tires for example rot where they sit.

#40

"Ed Pawlowski" <esp (AT) snet (DOT) net> wrote

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"Canuck57" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message
I think you missed Sharx35's point.

For the price of one car payment or much less you can fix all of the
above. And brakes don't need to be replaced every month. Most people
spend far too much on autos and I too have been guilty of this, just not
as bad as most.

No, I missed no point. Yes, you can fix all of the above for a car
payment, but the car will still not be "mint". Black, white, not even a
hint of gray.

Mint can be used as a noun or as an adjective.

Mint condition is a valid statement. Are you from the mountains in the
south?