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Charles wrote: Nasty wrote: My 2000 Accord speedometer is off by about 8 mph according to my gps. Are the tires currently on the vehicle the same size as those specified by Honda? I did a calculation on my (off-size) tires. Honda specified 195/60 but I'm running 195/65. The calculation involves the static loaded radius and the rolling circumference. For my configuration the error is 7 percent at 70 miles per hour. I just add 5 mph to the dashboard reading. My old Prelude had a recall on my speedometer that I never took advantage of. That would have corrected some of the error but I just do a mental adjustment and live with it. 10+% is an awful lot of error. You'd need to run several sizes over before tire diameter accounted for all of it. See: http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html |
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I'd have to go to 225/65 to compensate with tires. Isn't there a gear I could replace or are they electronic? |
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Nasty <nasty (AT) tampabay (DOT) rr.com> wrote in news:4b01c85e$0$4857 $9a6e19ea (AT) unlimited (DOT) newshosting.com: My 2000 Accord speedometer is off by about 8 mph according to my gps. It's kind of a good thing, it'll read 70 but I'm actually doing about 62. Is there a fix for this? TIA GPS's are not definitively accurate. There is a fairly large built-in error in all GPS's. GPS satellites are the property of the US Department of Defense, and the military doesn't want you having the same thing they've got for reasons of national security. This is outlined in all the new-car PDI docs issued by Honda for vehicles that have NAVI. |
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In addition to that, speedometers are designed to be "fast" on account of liability laws. Add the two together, and it could well be 8mph at 62 or 70. |
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If you really want to know your car's speedo/odo accuracy, you need to spend some time with a piece of chalk and a long tape measure. |
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Thus spake Tegger <invalid (AT) invalid (DOT) inv> : GPS's are not definitively accurate. There is a fairly large built-in error in all GPS's. GPS satellites are the property of the US Department of Defense, and the military doesn't want you having the same thing they've got for reasons of national security. This is outlined in all the new-car PDI docs issued by Honda for vehicles that have NAVI. Way incorrect. SA/CA went out long ago. During Desert Storm they had to disable it because the DoD couldn't get enough MilSpec GPS units and was buying civilian units from Magellan. |
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Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron (AT) austin (DOT) rr.com> wrote in news:gbjhg5taanhs2lvgc7jktvs0grhlf8t59v (AT) 4ax (DOT) com: Thus spake Tegger <invalid (AT) invalid (DOT) inv> : GPS's are not definitively accurate. There is a fairly large built-in error in all GPS's. GPS satellites are the property of the US Department of Defense, and the military doesn't want you having the same thing they've got for reasons of national security. This is outlined in all the new-car PDI docs issued by Honda for vehicles that have NAVI. Way incorrect. SA/CA went out long ago. During Desert Storm they had to disable it because the DoD couldn't get enough MilSpec GPS units and was buying civilian units from Magellan. Then how come all the 2010 PDI docs say this?: "The GPS (global positioning system) satellites used by the navigation system are operated by the U.S. Department of Defense. For security reasons, certain inaccuracies are built into the GPS. This can cause occasional positioning errors of up to several hundred feet. If the navigation system indicates your position incorrectly, wait several seconds until it corrects itself. The system may also correct itself after you make a turn or cross a road." If your reported location is incorrect, then it stands to reason that reported distances may be incorrect as well. |
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Tegger <invalid (AT) invalid (DOT) inv> wrote: in all GPS's. GPS satellites are the property of the US Department of Defense, and the military doesn't want you having the same thing they've Bill Clinton ended that silliness in 2000. http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/GPS/selective_availability.htm Any current GPS will have a steady state speedometer accuracy of .1mph. |

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| On 11/16/09 7:46 PM, in article NfnMm.35145$de6.3110 (AT) newsfe21 (DOT) iad, "Piperson" <ppsn168 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: Surely you jest!!! Certainly GPS's are not "definitively" accurate with locational information, but the time traveled between too "not-so-perfect" locations should be dead on. Speed indications should be very accurate compared to most automotive speedometers. Also, I am sure car makers would not design in inaccuracy to "account for liability laws", leaving themselves open to lawsuits for short changing owners of warranty limits. If the meter is reading too high, the odometer is approaching the warranty limit too fast. And Honda lost a class action suit for exactly that reason several years ago. The warranted mileage on my '06 CR-V was extended as part of that settlement. |
| Lastly. A very easy method of determining speed is by the time is takes to go between mileage markers on most highways. At 60 MPH one mile should take exactly 60 seconds. On 11/16/2009 8:06 PM, Tegger wrote: Nasty <nasty (AT) tampabay (DOT) rr.com> wrote in news:4b01c85e$0$4857 $9a6e19ea (AT) unlimited (DOT) newshosting.com: My 2000 Accord speedometer is off by about 8 mph according to my gps. It's kind of a good thing, it'll read 70 but I'm actually doing about 62. Is there a fix for this? TIA GPS's are not definitively accurate. There is a fairly large built-in error in all GPS's. GPS satellites are the property of the US Department of Defense, and the military doesn't want you having the same thing they've got for reasons of national security. This is outlined in all the new-car PDI docs issued by Honda for vehicles that have NAVI. In addition to that, speedometers are designed to be "fast" on account of liability laws. Add the two together, and it could well be 8mph at 62 or 70. If you really want to know your car's speedo/odo accuracy, you need to spend some time with a piece of chalk and a long tape measure. |
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