10,000 for Pole Day?

What a pitiful turnout. When I used to go you had to ride the buses to
the track and plan on an all day event. With 10k you could go watch at
noon for 2 hours and when it got hot you could leave and come back for
the real qualifying late in the day. My company used to give good
customers pole day tickets and fly then to Indy. The best customers
went to the 500.

These days it's Daytona for the customers. One guy asked me if they
still ran at Indy.

TGFTG


http://www.speedtv.com/commentary/37327/

On May 14, 6:50 am, Lenny <hayso... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

What a pitiful turnout. When I used to go you had to ride the buses to
the track and plan on an all day event. With 10k you could go watch at
noon for 2 hours and when it got hot you could leave and come back for
the real qualifying late in the day. My company used to give good
customers pole day tickets and fly then to Indy. The best customers
went to the 500.

These days it's Daytona for the customers. One guy asked me if they
still ran at Indy.

TGFTG

http://www.speedtv.com/commentary/37327/

All Hail TG!

"Lenny" <haysooce (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

What a pitiful turnout. When I used to go you had to ride the buses to
the track and plan on an all day event. With 10k you could go watch at
noon for 2 hours and when it got hot you could leave and come back for
the real qualifying late in the day. My company used to give good
customers pole day tickets and fly then to Indy. The best customers
went to the 500.

These days it's Daytona for the customers. One guy asked me if they
still ran at Indy.

TGFTG


http://www.speedtv.com/commentary/37327/

from the article written by RM:

"It was another dose of reality Saturday at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway,
another reminder of how this day, this month and this race are crying out
for an extreme makeover."

Who gets to fire Miller this time?

alien

"alien" <nofenders (AT) invalid (DOT) invalid> wrote

"Lenny" <haysooce (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1179143433.938648.97910 (AT) p77g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com...
What a pitiful turnout. When I used to go you had to ride the buses to
the track and plan on an all day event. With 10k you could go watch at
noon for 2 hours and when it got hot you could leave and come back for
the real qualifying late in the day. My company used to give good
customers pole day tickets and fly then to Indy. The best customers
went to the 500.

These days it's Daytona for the customers. One guy asked me if they
still ran at Indy.

TGFTG


http://www.speedtv.com/commentary/37327/



from the article written by RM:

"It was another dose of reality Saturday at the Indianapolis Motor
Speedway,
another reminder of how this day, this month and this race are crying out
for an extreme makeover."

Who gets to fire Miller this time?

alien

The reading, astute, motorsports following
public? Nevermind, they fired, laughed at and
started to disaregard his opinion long ago.

Dave-E wrote:

On May 14, 6:50 am, Lenny <hayso... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
What a pitiful turnout. When I used to go you had to ride the buses to
the track and plan on an all day event. With 10k you could go watch at
noon for 2 hours and when it got hot you could leave and come back for
the real qualifying late in the day. My company used to give good
customers pole day tickets and fly then to Indy. The best customers
went to the 500.

These days it's Daytona for the customers. One guy asked me if they
still ran at Indy.

TGFTG

http://www.speedtv.com/commentary/37327/

All Hail TG!

Preserve the traditions of the Indy 500.

On May 14, 8:32 am, "." <.... (AT) dot (DOT) com> wrote:

"alien" <nofend... (AT) invalid (DOT) invalid> wrote in message

news:yqZ1i.3421$mR2.3131 (AT) newssvr22 (DOT) news.prodigy.net...





"Lenny" <hayso... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1179143433.938648.97910 (AT) p77g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com...
What a pitiful turnout. When I used to go you had to ride the buses to
the track and plan on an all day event. With 10k you could go watch at
noon for 2 hours and when it got hot you could leave and come back for
the real qualifying late in the day. My company used to give good
customers pole day tickets and fly then to Indy. The best customers
went to the 500.

These days it's Daytona for the customers. One guy asked me if they
still ran at Indy.

TGFTG

http://www.speedtv.com/commentary/37327/

from the article written by RM:

"It was another dose of reality Saturday at the Indianapolis Motor
Speedway,
another reminder of how this day, this month and this race are crying out
for an extreme makeover."

Who gets to fire Miller this time?

alien

The reading, astute, motorsports following
public? Nevermind, they fired, laughed at and
started to disaregard his opinion long ago.

I can see the higher dosage level in the TGKool-aid is taking effect.

I love it how everyone disses RM whenever he rips on their favorite
series, yet applauds him when he goes after the opposing one.

So, there must be some truth to what he says...

On May 14, 11:53 am, Dave-E <davegt... (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:

I can see the higher dosage level in the TGKool-aid is taking effect.

I love it how everyone disses RM whenever he rips on their favorite
series, yet applauds him when he goes after the opposing one.

So, there must be some truth to what he says...

Yup, since he no longer has ties to any series, newspaper or city, his
opinions are his own. I didn't like him questioning the survival of
CC , but didn't mind when he ripped the IRL's flying circus-mobiles.

On May 14, 11:04 am, Lenny <hayso... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

On May 14, 11:53 am, Dave-E <davegt... (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:

I can see the higher dosage level in the TGKool-aid is taking effect.

I love it how everyone disses RM whenever he rips on their favorite
series, yet applauds him when he goes after the opposing one.

So, there must be some truth to what he says...

Yup, since he no longer has ties to any series, newspaper or city, his
opinions are his own. I didn't like him questioning the survival of
CC , but didn't mind when he ripped the IRL's flying circus-mobiles.

There are a lot of things he has said recently that I don't agree
with, but guess what? That's life. His recent proposal to get rid of
carbon fiber and go back to cars made of tubing and aluminum in my
opinion was one of the dumbest ideas he ever had. I understand the
logic behind it, but he has forgotten one very big thing. Carbon
fiber may have been one of the biggest safety advances in Champ Car
racing since the use of Nomex and fuel cells became the norm. Many of
the accidents that have recently occurred would likely have resulted
in far greater injury to the driver if not for the carbon fiber tubs.

That's ok though. One thing about adults is that adults can disagree
and still have a respect. Just as he blast the IRL, he has every
right to question CC future. You don't necessarily have to agree with
the conclusions, or even like it. You also have every right to
question his modivation for those opinions and take his recent
relationship with CC and its ending as a part of may drive that
opinion.

Yet with most things in life, like in business, if both sides finally
agree to a deal but neither are totally happy with it, it usually is
one thing. That's fair. Robin may be a lot of things, he may be
polorizing, but he is also fair.

"Lenny" <haysooce (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

What a pitiful turnout. When I used to go you had to ride the buses to
the track and plan on an all day event. With 10k you could go watch at
noon for 2 hours and when it got hot you could leave and come back for
the real qualifying late in the day. My company used to give good
customers pole day tickets and fly then to Indy. The best customers
went to the 500.

These days it's Daytona for the customers. One guy asked me if they
still ran at Indy.

TGFTG


http://www.speedtv.com/commentary/37327/

I don't understand why they still run all month. It should all be done in
seven days.

And it will never be exciting again until they get the avg speed up to 240
MPH. That's the only reason I used to watch qual is the speeds used to get
higher every year. Stroking along at the same old speed, where is the
fascination?

On May 14, 1:11 pm, Mark <mblackwell1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

There are a lot of things he has said recently that I don't agree
with, but guess what? That's life. His recent proposal to get rid of
carbon fiber and go back to cars made of tubing and aluminum in my
opinion was one of the dumbest ideas he ever had. I understand the
logic behind it, but he has forgotten one very big thing. Carbon
fiber may have been one of the biggest safety advances in Champ Car
racing since the use of Nomex and fuel cells became the norm. Many of
the accidents that have recently occurred would likely have resulted
in far greater injury to the driver if not for the carbon fiber tubs.

That's ok though. One thing about adults is that adults can disagree
and still have a respect. Just as he blast the IRL, he has every
right to question CC future. You don't necessarily have to agree with
the conclusions, or even like it. You also have every right to
question his modivation for those opinions and take his recent
relationship with CC and its ending as a part of may drive that
opinion.

Yet with most things in life, like in business, if both sides finally
agree to a deal but neither are totally happy with it, it usually is
one thing. That's fair. Robin may be a lot of things, he may be
polorizing, but he is also fair.

I generally respect the people I disagree with occasionally. Those I
disagree with all the time I usually don't respect because we are too
far apart.

With Robin, I like about 75% of his viewpoints, but you are right
about his "new" car design. Carbon fiber is here to stay and the
timing electronics are one of the biggest advantages we see as fans.