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Shell
 
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Default Re: Blank Sidepods - 08-28-2006 , 10:55 AM






I say he passed with flying colors. You are the failure Dave. I don't think
you will ever get tenure.


"David Reininger" <dreining (AT) gmu (DOT) edu> wrote

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The assignment was very simple and yet you failed.



Going back to the Indy Racing League website and checking the results
PDM,

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/irl...nd-em-0667.jpg

Larry Foyt,

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/irl...nd-em-0676.jpg

Arie Jr,

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/irl...nd-em-0687.jpg

Vision Racing,

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/irl...nd-em-0669.jpg

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/irl...nd-em-0673.jpg

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/irl...nd-em-0674.jpg

Dreyer & Reinbold,

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/irl...nd-em-0661.jpg

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/irl...nd-em-0689.jpg

Cheever Racing show no sponsors.

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/irl...nd-em-0681.jpg

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/irl...nd-em-0685.jpg

Roger Yasukawa (did he run at the Action


Jaques Lazier shows the team as Playa Del Racing which has no sponsors
with that as well but the name could mean some company.

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/irl...nd-em-0679.jpg


It sure isn't a fine American company.


Hehehehe, can you say Muermans? Curacao?



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Shell
 
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Default Re: Blank Sidepods - 08-28-2006 , 10:56 AM






The simple things in life escape you, don't they Dave?


"David Reininger" <dreining (AT) gmu (DOT) edu> wrote

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Shell wrote:
Who cares? If these places created more revenue, than the real estate is
worth, then that wouldn't be happening would it?


Now we need a lesson in San Francisco bay area real estate?

Sheesh.




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Carey Akin
 
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Default Re: Blank Sidepods - 08-28-2006 , 11:08 AM




"David Reininger" <dreining (AT) gmu (DOT) edu> wrote

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I try to let the simpletons escape me.

That is a full time job in this group lately.

Carey in Manvel




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Default Re: Blank Sidepods - 08-28-2006 , 11:18 AM




"Carey Akin" <cmakin (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote

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"David Reininger" <dreining (AT) gmu (DOT) edu> wrote in message
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I try to let the simpletons escape me.

That is a full time job in this group lately.

An appropriate remark if it was posted in the right group.

RASI ===> That Way.



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Default Re: Blank Sidepods - 08-28-2006 , 11:32 AM




"Peter Craig" <pcraig580 (AT) rogers (DOT) com> wrote

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An appropriate remark if it was posted in the right group.

RASI ===> That Way.
You are right. There are far more over there. We get a few over here,
though.

Carey in Manvel
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Default Re: Blank Sidepods - 08-28-2006 , 12:24 PM





Shell wrote:

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I say he passed with flying colors. You are the failure Dave. I don't think
you will ever get tenure.

Unfortunately, tenure has nothing to do with intelligence. Dave
probably got tenure because he was just another dumb jock hiding in the
corner for a few years. Just another burden on the poor kids
responsible for paying tuition.






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Mark B
 
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Default Re: Blank Sidepods - 08-28-2006 , 12:35 PM



Merrill P. L. Worthington wrote:
Quote:

Shell wrote:

I say he passed with flying colors. You are the failure Dave. I don't
think you will ever get tenure.

Shell he didn't throw a personal insult at me any more than I did at
him. Quite frankly this time we both might be right.

I know I am right when I went to the IRL website and named those teams
without sponsors straight from the results page. The other teams had
their sponsorship listed.

Its also likely if Dave posted websites with photos of the cars on track
at the 500 in those colors then also might be right.

Yet that begs a rather unique question. Assuming Dave is correct, the
speedway had to have had the same photos (or better) and the same
information (or better) than those sites he listed. Why then did they
not list them as sponsors on their own page???

Hmmmmm Could it be because their was no money changing hands for the
exposure? Are these companies that other areas of the Hulman Company
does business with and were just doing them a favor by putting them on a
car? Could be a simple mix up but I kind of doubt it. If it were just
a mix up it would have been missing the sponsorship of a team or two and
not that many. We probably won't ever know but its an interesting question.


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Default Re: Blank Sidepods - 08-28-2006 , 02:32 PM



Mark B wrote:

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Hmmmmm Could it be because their was no money changing hands for the
exposure? Are these companies that other areas of the Hulman Company
does business with and were just doing them a favor by putting them on a
car? Could be a simple mix up but I kind of doubt it. If it were just
a mix up it would have been missing the sponsorship of a team or two and
not that many. We probably won't ever know but its an interesting
question.

When you checked the offcial entry list or the box score
it lists the official entry of the car, along with its name.

When Penske enters their cars, they enter the Marlboro
Team Penske Dallara or the XYZ team enters the 'Polylube
XYZ Special.' That is how the car is put on the official
entry list or box score.

As you might imagine, there is a deadline for filing
the official name of the entry.

It's too bad Allan Pagan isn't here to give the full
details on this because I'm going off the top of my head.

There are sponsors who are very much aware of this deadline
and insist that the deal is consumated before the deadline
so the sponsor's name will appear as part of the official
entry.

Other sponsors miss the deadline, either because the deal came
together too late or they didn't care or know about the deadline.

As I remember the deadline, it gave the Speedway enough time to
paint the pit wall with the driver's name and name of the entry.

I apologize if this is a bit rambling. Commuting from San Francisco
to Washington DC has taken its toll this morning.




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Default Re: Blank Sidepods - 08-28-2006 , 05:03 PM





David Reininger wrote:
Quote:
Mark B wrote:

Hmmmmm Could it be because their was no money changing hands for the
exposure? Are these companies that other areas of the Hulman Company
does business with and were just doing them a favor by putting them on
a car? Could be a simple mix up but I kind of doubt it. If it were
just a mix up it would have been missing the sponsorship of a team or
two and not that many. We probably won't ever know but its an
interesting question.



When you checked the offcial entry list or the box score
it lists the official entry of the car, along with its name.

When Penske enters their cars, they enter the Marlboro
Team Penske Dallara or the XYZ team enters the 'Polylube
XYZ Special.' That is how the car is put on the official
entry list or box score.

As you might imagine, there is a deadline for filing
the official name of the entry.

It's too bad Allan Pagan isn't here to give the full
details on this because I'm going off the top of my head.

There are sponsors who are very much aware of this deadline
and insist that the deal is consumated before the deadline
so the sponsor's name will appear as part of the official
entry.

Other sponsors miss the deadline, either because the deal came
together too late or they didn't care or know about the deadline.

As I remember the deadline, it gave the Speedway enough time to
paint the pit wall with the driver's name and name of the entry.

I apologize if this is a bit rambling. Commuting from San Francisco
to Washington DC has taken its toll this morning.
Oh, yeah. I'm sure this is the EXACT explanation. That would explain
how some of the rookies that buy their way into the field in back-up
cars get entries at thte last minute.






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Shell
 
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Default Re: Blank Sidepods - 08-28-2006 , 10:41 PM



Exactly as I posted somewhere else. These "sponsors" aren't paying for
sponsorship. They are just having their names placed on the sidepods because
they have some affiliation with the speedway.

The deal is that these sidepods were blank until raceday. TG has them slap
on the decal and go racing. He has every right to do that, because he is
basically the one sponsoring the team. The company is basically getting free
exposure at Tony George's expense. I'm sure that those companies don't mind
doing business that way.


"Mark B" <racefan1958 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote

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Merrill P. L. Worthington wrote:


Shell wrote:

I say he passed with flying colors. You are the failure Dave. I don't
think you will ever get tenure.


Shell he didn't throw a personal insult at me any more than I did at him.
Quite frankly this time we both might be right.

I know I am right when I went to the IRL website and named those teams
without sponsors straight from the results page. The other teams had
their sponsorship listed.

Its also likely if Dave posted websites with photos of the cars on track
at the 500 in those colors then also might be right.

Yet that begs a rather unique question. Assuming Dave is correct, the
speedway had to have had the same photos (or better) and the same
information (or better) than those sites he listed. Why then did they not
list them as sponsors on their own page???

Hmmmmm Could it be because their was no money changing hands for the
exposure? Are these companies that other areas of the Hulman Company
does business with and were just doing them a favor by putting them on a
car? Could be a simple mix up but I kind of doubt it. If it were just a
mix up it would have been missing the sponsorship of a team or two and not
that many. We probably won't ever know but its an interesting question.



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