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Re: Courage at Indy -
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Cessna 310 jolene... (AT) sbc (DOT) com said:> Mark wrote: (lotsa good stuff snipped) It would have been far easier to get in the car and try rather than to unstrap. PJ made the right decision, yet it still took more courage than any I have seen at Indy in a very long time. It might be courage. But I think it was his experience and intelligence. Nice stuff by Mark. Makes me want to watch the race next week. I always do, at least since 1999. I live in Canada. I can tell you where I was for the Indy 500 for almost every year since 1976. Until 1996 to 1998. I think that I had a tee time or was fishing. It didn't matter then. I still like to watch it. It still ranks as notable racing event. I just wish it was as interesting as Lemans. The Daytona 500 doesn't even turn my crank anymore. |
notable in how far its fallen. The last real Indy 500 was in in
1995. We both remember trying to avoid all media so you can watch the
race later that night "tape delayed oh what a wonderful thing" without
knowing who won. Tony just didn't have any idea that one's memory can
be this long. He was wrong. Tickets used to be one of the toughest
to get now are easily available by walking up to the ticket window on
race day. Those that don't like crowds must like it. I wonder if ABC
is going to have to use the hide the grandstands techniques they use
at other tracks (as to not show so many empty seats) at Indy this
year.
LeMans for me is awful. I hate 30mph finishes that are done for
photographers, (which by the way I am photographer) so all the cars
can get in the winning photo to make sure as many sponsor logos get in
the paper the next day as possible. That to me isn't racing. Daytona
with plates isn't as good as it used to be. It was closer with those
ugly wickerbills at the top of the car that allowed for more
drafting. Trouble is that by the time they found something that
brought most of the old Daytona back, most of the drivers no longer
knew the skills needed to run in that manner. When Sr. was lost,
changes were going to be made, even if they were wrong.
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Well I disagree with you that it ranks as a notable event. Its only notable in how far its fallen. The last real Indy 500 was in in 1995. We both remember trying to avoid all media so you can watch the race later that night "tape delayed oh what a wonderful thing" without knowing who won. Tony just didn't have any idea that one's memory can be this long. He was wrong. Tickets used to be one of the toughest to get now are easily available by walking up to the ticket window on race day. Those that don't like crowds must like it. I wonder if ABC is going to have to use the hide the grandstands techniques they use at other tracks (as to not show so many empty seats) at Indy this year. |
this year. Geez, those damn cameras focusing on the race track. What on
earth are they thinking.
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LeMans for me is awful. I hate 30mph finishes that are done for photographers, (which by the way I am photographer) so all the cars can get in the winning photo to make sure as many sponsor logos get in the paper the next day as possible. That to me isn't racing. Daytona with plates isn't as good as it used to be. It was closer with those ugly wickerbills at the top of the car that allowed for more drafting. Trouble is that by the time they found something that brought most of the old Daytona back, most of the drivers no longer knew the skills needed to run in that manner. When Sr. was lost, changes were going to be made, even if they were wrong. |
racing deal this year than I have been before, and other than the current
road trip, have, by and large, been ignoring other racing.
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"forty" <cforteNO (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:5be2qqF2sdje6U1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net... FFS never mind What, nothing to say? |
anything worthwhile, and it is not the course of wisdom to pursue an
endeavor where there is no advantage to be gained. Thus, I chose to end
the exchange. My apologies for the time wasted on both sides.
--
forty
“To embrace an extreme, one must first let go of reason.”
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Von Fourche wrote: "Buzz" <buzz9292 (AT) netscape (DOT) net> wrote in message news:MPG.20baeda95de3f152989952 (AT) news (DOT) datemas.de... Cessna 310 jolene310 (AT) sbc (DOT) com said: Mark wrote: (lotsa good stuff snipped) It would have been far easier to get in the car and try rather than to unstrap. PJ made the right decision, yet it still took more courage than any I have seen at Indy in a very long time. It might be courage. But I think it was his experience and intelligence. Nice stuff by Mark. Makes me want to watch the race next week. I always do, at least since 1999. I live in Canada. I can tell you where I was for the Indy 500 for almost every year since 1976. Until 1996 to 1998. I think that I had a tee time or was fishing. It didn't matter then. I still like to watch it. It still ranks as notable racing event. Good for you. It is the top racing event in the world. <snip No, it isn't. NASCAR has quite a few events that top it in the USA, and it has become relatively irrelevant in the international scene. Several drivers, including an Indy 500 winner, have made that assertion and my associates in the racing community from 4 other continents concur. |
Are you going to send me the link to the fish download site?
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"Mark" <mblackwell1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1179763800.385445.199070 (AT) 36g2000prm (DOT) googlegroups.com... Well I disagree with you that it ranks as a notable event. Its only notable in how far its fallen. The last real Indy 500 was in in 1995. We both remember trying to avoid all media so you can watch the race later that night "tape delayed oh what a wonderful thing" without knowing who won. Tony just didn't have any idea that one's memory can be this long. He was wrong. Tickets used to be one of the toughest to get now are easily available by walking up to the ticket window on race day. Those that don't like crowds must like it. I wonder if ABC is going to have to use the hide the grandstands techniques they use at other tracks (as to not show so many empty seats) at Indy this year. I hear that the aerial shots at Indy will be taken from black helicopters this year. Geez, those damn cameras focusing on the race track. What on earth are they thinking. LeMans for me is awful. I hate 30mph finishes that are done for photographers, (which by the way I am photographer) so all the cars can get in the winning photo to make sure as many sponsor logos get in the paper the next day as possible. That to me isn't racing. Daytona with plates isn't as good as it used to be. It was closer with those ugly wickerbills at the top of the car that allowed for more drafting. Trouble is that by the time they found something that brought most of the old Daytona back, most of the drivers no longer knew the skills needed to run in that manner. When Sr. was lost, changes were going to be made, even if they were wrong. Why do you bother then? That said, I am far more involved with my own racing deal this year than I have been before, and other than the current road trip, have, by and large, been ignoring other racing. Carey in Indianapolis |
I won't bother watching the IRL 500. We had a drinking game Sunday.
It was called find a fan. If you saw anyone in the grandstands, you
had to drink. In car cams, aerial views all count. We stayed sober. I
watch Daytona and Dega now more by habit than anything else. Le Mans
is almost never on my radar. Timed races are not my idea of racing,
and frankly there are very few series that I think it works.
Why didn't you go to Indy and get a ride? Im sure they would make a
spot for a "hero of the short tracks." Wouldn't be that much
different than Milka.
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Why show the race with so few cars that are really competitive and no I won't bother watching the IRL 500. We had a drinking game Sunday. It was called find a fan. If you saw anyone in the grandstands, you had to drink. In car cams, aerial views all count. We stayed sober. I watch Daytona and Dega now more by habit than anything else. Le Mans is almost never on my radar. Timed races are not my idea of racing, and frankly there are very few series that I think it works. |
either. Now THAT is pathetic. And those damn cameras concentrating on the
racing, too.
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Why didn't you go to Indy and get a ride? Im sure they would make a spot for a "hero of the short tracks." Wouldn't be that much different than Milka. I was talking to Billy Boat on Sunday night. I suggested that he put a wig |
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