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Mark B
 
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Default Re: D&R Contemplating 2007 Move To CCWS - 11-04-2006 , 11:46 AM






Albert D. Kallal wrote:
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This is likely much of a ploy to get some money, or more support from the
IRL. (read = get me some sponsors)

Dario F's agent also floated rumours that Dario is looking else where for a
ride..and, hey..he is back for next year!!!

I don't see D&R going to Champ car at all. Just a rumour to "get some"
attention from the IRL brass...

What everyone is forgetting is the new DP1 chassis. A year lease is
about a million plus electronics ect. Its a great deal cheaper to run
the DP1 for a year than an IRL car now. With the new chassis spec
everyone is starting at the same place as no one has a book of setups
for the new car. D&R could run cheaper and more competitively, even
against better competition, than they can in the IRL and likely turn a
larger profit if their expenses are kept under control.

Follow the money.


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Default Re: D&R Contemplating 2007 Move To CCWS - 11-25-2006 , 09:00 PM








On Nov 4, 11:46*am, Mark B <racefan1... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:
Quote:
Albert D. Kallal wrote:
This is likely much of a ploy to get some money, or more support from the
IRL. (read = get me some sponsors)

Dario F's agent also floated rumours that Dario is looking else where for a
ride..and, hey..he is back for next year!!!

I don't see D&R going to Champ car at all. Just a rumour to "get some"
attention from the IRL brass...What everyone is forgetting is the new DP1 chassis. *A year lease is
about a million plus electronics ect. *Its a great deal cheaper to run
the DP1 for a year than an IRL car now. *With the new *chassis spec
everyone is starting at the same place as no one has a book of setups
for the new car. * D&R could run cheaper and more competitively, even
against better competition, than they can in the IRL and likely turn a
larger profit if their expenses are kept under control.

Follow the money.
Needless to say logic is sometimes lost on ccws supporters. Let us
follow the money. A lease of the new DP01 is $2 million not $1 million.
Lease requires you to lease 2 cars not one. SO how does this compare to
the current IRL chassis? Well D&R already owns IRL chassis so they do
not have to buy/lease new equipment. Thus following the money you get a
$2 million advantage by staying in the IRL. How about purses, the
winner of the ccws championship won less money than the 3rd place IRL
finisher. How about other financial matters such as sponsorships. An
industry report shows the IRL as the top sports series in America for
the past 6 months with a 11% growth in market share, while at the same
time the ccws was the worst sports series in American with a 7% loss of
market share. So far following the money tends to strongly support
staying in the IRL. Not having to buy new equipment, higher purses and
a better chance of getting sponsors. If you follow the money it is a no
brainer to remain in the IRL.



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Default Re: D&R Contemplating 2007 Move To CCWS - 11-26-2006 , 02:18 AM



McShill blathered:
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Needless to say logic is sometimes lost on ccws supporters. Let us
follow the money. A lease of the new DP01 is $2 million not $1 million.
Lease requires you to lease 2 cars not one.
Seems rather stupid to lease one car. What happens when the primary car
gets wrecked?

Of course you're going to lease two cars..I'll give you a big "Duh" on
that one


SO how does this compare to
Quote:
the current IRL chassis? Well D&R already owns IRL chassis so they do
not have to buy/lease new equipment. Thus following the money you get a
$2 million advantage by staying in the IRL.
Until they wreck a car. Or two.

How about purses, the
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winner of the ccws championship won less money than the 3rd place IRL
finisher. How about other financial matters such as sponsorships. An
industry report shows the IRL as the top sports series in America for
the past 6 months with a 11% growth in market share, while at the same
time the ccws was the worst sports series in American with a 7% loss of
market share.
Care to show your work? Take the Iddy 500 purse out and then show me
the numbers. IRL top sports series in America? Surely you must be
joking.


So far following the money tends to strongly support
Quote:
staying in the IRL. Not having to buy new equipment, higher purses and
a better chance of getting sponsors. If you follow the money it is a no
brainer to remain in the IRL.
Garcon, please bring out another jug of TG Kool-Aid. 2006
vintage....sure it's a little dry, but it beats an Andretti w(h)ine any
day... No need to sniff the bottle cap...

Sponsorship for the Iddy 500, perhaps. If you remain in the IRL, you
might get a check from TG.

What's the IRL car count for 07, btw?



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Fred Barnes
 
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Default Re: D&R Contemplating 2007 Move To CCWS - 11-26-2006 , 11:47 AM



mphsrick43 (AT) aol (DOT) com said:
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IRL as the top sports series in America

That must be why the IRL is going for an all oval format in 2007.

Feel the speed.


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Cal Vanize
 
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Default Re: D&R Contemplating 2007 Move To CCWS - 11-26-2006 , 03:52 PM





mphsrick43 (AT) aol (DOT) com lied through her tooth:

Quote:
<snip>

Quote:
An
industry report shows the IRL as the top sports series in America for
the past 6 months with a 11% growth in market share, while at the same
time the ccws was the worst sports series in American with a 7% loss of
market share.
Please provide the sources and details for this line of BS. From all
other accounts, CCWS is gaining in popularity while the IRL is fading.


So far following the money tends to strongly support
Quote:
staying in the IRL.
Is that why teams are failing and drivers are going elsewhere?


Not having to buy new equipment, higher purses and
Quote:
a better chance of getting sponsors. If you follow the money it is a no
brainer to remain in the IRL.

Empty stands and sponsors abandoning their teams? Is that how you
define no-brainer?




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mphsrick43@aol.com
 
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Default Re: D&R Contemplating 2007 Move To CCWS - 11-27-2006 , 10:08 AM





On Nov 26, 3:52*pm, Cal Vanize <dont.even.spam... (AT) myspam (DOT) org> wrote:
Quote:
mphsric... (AT) aol (DOT) com lied through her tooth:

snip

An
industry report shows the IRL as the top sports series in America for
the past 6 months with a 11% growth in market share, while at the same
time the ccws was the worst sports series in American with a 7% loss of
market share.Please provide the sources and details for this line of BS.. *From all
other accounts, CCWS is gaining in popularity while the IRL is fading.

So far following the money tends to strongly support

staying in the IRL.Is that why teams are failing and drivers are going elsewhere?

Not having to buy new equipment, higher purses and

a better chance of getting sponsors. If you follow the money it is a no
brainer to remain in the IRL.Empty stands and sponsors abandoning theirteams? *Is that how you
define no-brainer?
For those who are in the industry having to do with sports promotion
there is a small like thing that the general public does not have
access to called the Rasmussen report. I know most of you little trolls
hiding out in your mama's basement have never seen it. It is real and
it does show sports growth and loss of marketshare. Also do not get too
hung up on all of these "announced" new teams for CC. Not all of these
new team will ever turn a wheel and the ones that do will more than
likely just be buying out existing operations. As it sits now without
new teams taking over for existing there is little chance that a number
of existing team will be able to buy new equipment.



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Robert Lorenzini
 
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Default Re: D&R Contemplating 2007 Move To CCWS - 11-27-2006 , 10:43 AM



On 27 Nov 2006 08:08:29 -0800, mphsrick43 (AT) aol (DOT) com <mphsrick43 (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
For those who are in the industry having to do with sports promotion
there is a small like thing that the general public does not have
access to called the Rasmussen report. I know most of you little trolls
A failed IRL team owner used to quote it here.

Bob


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xorbit
 
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Default Re: D&R Contemplating 2007 Move To CCWS - 11-27-2006 , 10:54 AM



mphsrick43 (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Quote:
On Nov 26, 3:52?pm, Cal Vanize <dont.even.spam... (AT) myspam (DOT) org> wrote:

mphsric... (AT) aol (DOT) com lied through her tooth:

snip

An
industry report shows the IRL as the top sports series in America for
the past 6 months with a 11% growth in market share, while at the same
time the ccws was the worst sports series in American with a 7% loss of
market share.Please provide the sources and details for this line of BS. ?From all

other accounts, CCWS is gaining in popularity while the IRL is fading.

So far following the money tends to strongly support


staying in the IRL.Is that why teams are failing and drivers are going elsewhere?

Not having to buy new equipment, higher purses and


a better chance of getting sponsors. If you follow the money it is a no
brainer to remain in the IRL.Empty stands and sponsors abandoning their teams? ?Is that how you

define no-brainer?


For those who are in the industry having to do with sports promotion
there is a small like thing that the general public does not have
access to called the Rasmussen report. I know most of you little trolls
hiding out in your mama's basement have never seen it. It is real and
it does show sports growth and loss of marketshare. Also do not get too
hung up on all of these "announced" new teams for CC. Not all of these
new team will ever turn a wheel and the ones that do will more than
likely just be buying out existing operations. As it sits now without
new teams taking over for existing there is little chance that a number
of existing team will be able to buy new equipment.

Oh, so Mr. Insider has special knowledge that he can't share with the
rest of us. Are we supposed to get on our knees and worship you or are
you just full of shit and full of yourself?



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forty
 
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Default Re: D&R Contemplating 2007 Move To CCWS - 11-27-2006 , 10:59 AM



xorbit wrote:
Quote:
mphsrick43 (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:


On Nov 26, 3:52?pm, Cal Vanize <dont.even.spam... (AT) myspam (DOT) org> wrote:

mphsric... (AT) aol (DOT) com lied through her tooth:

snip

An
industry report shows the IRL as the top sports series in America for
the past 6 months with a 11% growth in market share, while at the same
time the ccws was the worst sports series in American with a 7% loss of
market share.Please provide the sources and details for this line of
BS. ?From all

other accounts, CCWS is gaining in popularity while the IRL is fading.

So far following the money tends to strongly support


staying in the IRL.Is that why teams are failing and drivers are
going elsewhere?

Not having to buy new equipment, higher purses and


a better chance of getting sponsors. If you follow the money it is a no
brainer to remain in the IRL.Empty stands and sponsors abandoning
their teams? ?Is that how you

define no-brainer?


For those who are in the industry having to do with sports promotion
there is a small like thing that the general public does not have
access to called the Rasmussen report. I know most of you little trolls
hiding out in your mama's basement have never seen it. It is real and
it does show sports growth and loss of marketshare. Also do not get too
hung up on all of these "announced" new teams for CC. Not all of these
new team will ever turn a wheel and the ones that do will more than
likely just be buying out existing operations. As it sits now without
new teams taking over for existing there is little chance that a number
of existing team will be able to buy new equipment.


Oh, so Mr. Insider has special knowledge that he can't share with the
rest of us. Are we supposed to get on our knees and worship you or are
you just full of shit and full of yourself?

Judging from the quality of writing and venomous content of his/her
posts, my estimation is that the latter choice is the correct one.

--
forty

“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and
mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.” - Ernest Hemingway


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Default Re: D&R Contemplating 2007 Move To CCWS - 11-27-2006 , 11:59 AM





On Nov 27, 10:43*am, Robert Lorenzini <b... (AT) newportharbornet (DOT) com>
wrote:
Quote:
On 27 Nov 2006 08:08:29 -0800, mphsric... (AT) aol (DOT) com <mphsric... (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:



For those who are in the industry having to do with sports promotion
there is a small like thing that the general public does not have
access to called the Rasmussen report. I know most of you little trollsA failed IRL team owner used to quote it here.

Bob
I recognize a few of the names in here from the old MPH stock board on
yahoo. It looks as if nothing has changed in the eyes of some of you. I
heard some of the same arguments back then almost word by word as cart
failed.
Do not get overly excited about any new teams. It will be maybe a 1 or
2 car pickup at most and most likely a wash as current teams sell out
to the rumored incoming teams. Look for CTE/HVM to annouced that they
are sold and will become Minardi. RuSport is still rumored to be on the
block with others maybe following suit. Of course that is if they do
not close their doors. Rumors of layoffs at the RuSport team are
starting to come to the surface. Basically what is going on is the
rearranging of the deck seat on the titanic. What looks like major
movement inside the series is just smoke and mirrors.



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