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Kalkhoven Proposed Champ Car Foray at Indy Written by: Robin Miller Indianapolis, Ind. - 4/23/2007 Kalkhoven: "I told Tony that if he gives us free Honda engines, we'd buy the chassis and bring four or five drivers to Indianapolis." Kevin Kalkhoven and Tony George aren't discussing unification but there was an idea floated about getting together for next month's 91st Indianapolis 500. Kalkhoven, who co-owns Champ Car with Gerald Forsythe, says he made a proposal to the Indy Racing League founder, while George maintains it never got that far. "I told Tony that if he gives us free Honda engines, we'd buy the chassis and bring four or five drivers to Indianapolis," related Kalkhoven, whose series has no races during May. "I never heard back from him, so I guess it's too late now. "But I was serious." George said it was more of a suggestion than an offer. "On or about February 10th, I spoke with Kevin on the phone when he suggested that perhaps he could exercise some flexibility with China to free up the month of May," said George. "He offered, hypothetically and potentially, that it might be interesting to run 6-8 of the CC teams and drivers in the 500, which of course it would be, and stir some rivalries such as; Sam and Sebastian; Danica and Katherine; Marco and Graham, etc. George: "The reality is that there are too many moving parts to make that happen." "He then pointed out that they had no engines, chassis, or sponsors to help make that happen and we would have to figure that out. He made no specific suggestion or offer, but the inference was the 500 would be the beneficiary of that scenario, therefore, I should be left to ponder. Which I did, but the reality is that there are too many moving parts to make that happen." Asked if he would consider competing at this year's Indianapolis 500 during Champ Car's seven weeks off, Forsythe replied: "Sure, if Tony George gives us the engines, chassis and Penske's setup sheets." Several Champ Car drivers said they would like to run Indy, but only with a chance to be competitive. "Sure, I'd like to do it again but only under the right circumstances," said three-time CC champ Sebastien Bourdais, who competed with his then Newman/Haas teammate Bruno Junquiera in 2004 and 2005. "I mean, those IRL teams have had those cars for three or four years now and they've gained a lot since we were last there. "You're not gong to be able to just get a car and engine and think you can compete with Penske, Ganassi and Andretti's team. Without testing and the proper setup, we'd get our ass kicked." Junqueira, who captured the Indy pole in 2002 and has always run well there, was also interested. "I like that race very much and I'd like to win it some day but I don't want to do it unless we've got a chance to be competitive," said Junky, who suffered serious injuries in 2005 at Indy. "That takes testing and we wouldn't have time this year." http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/indycar/36896/ |
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"Lenny" <haysooce (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177430616.202364.159320 (AT) n35g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com... Kalkhoven Proposed Champ Car Foray at Indy Written by: Robin Miller Indianapolis, Ind. - 4/23/2007 Kalkhoven: "I told Tony that if he gives us free Honda engines, we'd buy the chassis and bring four or five drivers to Indianapolis." Kevin Kalkhoven and Tony George aren't discussing unification but there was an idea floated about getting together for next month's 91st Indianapolis 500. Kalkhoven, who co-owns Champ Car with Gerald Forsythe, says he made a proposal to the Indy Racing League founder, while George maintains it never got that far. "I told Tony that if he gives us free Honda engines, we'd buy the chassis and bring four or five drivers to Indianapolis," related Kalkhoven, whose series has no races during May. "I never heard back from him, so I guess it's too late now. "But I was serious." George said it was more of a suggestion than an offer. "On or about February 10th, I spoke with Kevin on the phone when he suggested that perhaps he could exercise some flexibility with China to free up the month of May," said George. "He offered, hypothetically and potentially, that it might be interesting to run 6-8 of the CC teams and drivers in the 500, which of course it would be, and stir some rivalries such as; Sam and Sebastian; Danica and Katherine; Marco and Graham, etc. George: "The reality is that there are too many moving parts to make that happen." "He then pointed out that they had no engines, chassis, or sponsors to help make that happen and we would have to figure that out. He made no specific suggestion or offer, but the inference was the 500 would be the beneficiary of that scenario, therefore, I should be left to ponder. Which I did, but the reality is that there are too many moving parts to make that happen." Asked if he would consider competing at this year's Indianapolis 500 during Champ Car's seven weeks off, Forsythe replied: "Sure, if Tony George gives us the engines, chassis and Penske's setup sheets." Several Champ Car drivers said they would like to run Indy, but only with a chance to be competitive. "Sure, I'd like to do it again but only under the right circumstances," said three-time CC champ Sebastien Bourdais, who competed with his then Newman/Haas teammate Bruno Junquiera in 2004 and 2005. "I mean, those IRL teams have had those cars for three or four years now and they've gained a lot since we were last there. "You're not gong to be able to just get a car and engine and think you can compete with Penske, Ganassi and Andretti's team. Without testing and the proper setup, we'd get our ass kicked." Junqueira, who captured the Indy pole in 2002 and has always run well there, was also interested. "I like that race very much and I'd like to win it some day but I don't want to do it unless we've got a chance to be competitive," said Junky, who suffered serious injuries in 2005 at Indy. "That takes testing and we wouldn't have time this year." http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/indycar/36896/ Wrong yet again you tedious, johnny come lately, anonymous, nym shifting, pusillanimous, nincompoop. As with their desperate desire to merge, he told the chumps that they could put it where the sun don't shine. news:3JgXh.53412$NK5.45149 (AT) newsfe23 (DOT) lga |
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"Lenny" <haysooce (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177430616.202364.159320 (AT) n35g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com... Kalkhoven Proposed Champ Car Foray at Indy Written by: Robin Miller Indianapolis, Ind. - 4/23/2007 Wrong yet again you tedious, johnny come lately, anonymous, nym shifting, pusillanimous, nincompoop. As with their desperate desire to merge, he told the chumps that they could put it where the sun don't shine. news:3JgXh.53412$NK5.45149 (AT) newsfe23 (DOT) lga |
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:16:05 -0500, "." <. (AT) dot (DOT) com> wrote: "Lenny" <haysooce (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177430616.202364.159320 (AT) n35g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com... Kalkhoven Proposed Champ Car Foray at Indy Written by: Robin Miller Indianapolis, Ind. - 4/23/2007 Wrong yet again you tedious, johnny come lately, anonymous, nym shifting, pusillanimous, nincompoop. As with their desperate desire to merge, he told the chumps that they could put it where the sun don't shine. news:3JgXh.53412$NK5.45149 (AT) newsfe23 (DOT) lga This much attention with no response on one poster makes you his pet. How does it feel to be owned? |
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news:1177362096.815946.221520 (AT) q75g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 23, 3:06 pm, forty <cfort... (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote: Von Fourche wrote: First the gas mileage snoozer IRL race from Motegi. LOL -- Looks like I spoke too soon, but I really did underestimate how much humiliation this guy could stand. Ah, confirmation as to why he hasn't responded to my remarks. As I said, he's simply tired of getting slapped around. " |
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"Fred Nation" <fnat8743 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:b4ss23h2u3mal2lcnrlnf73s2pp9ukd1u2 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:16:05 -0500, "." <. (AT) dot (DOT) com> wrote: "Lenny" <haysooce (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177430616.202364.159320 (AT) n35g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com... Kalkhoven Proposed Champ Car Foray at Indy Written by: Robin Miller Indianapolis, Ind. - 4/23/2007 Wrong yet again you tedious, johnny come lately, anonymous, nym shifting, pusillanimous, nincompoop. As with their desperate desire to merge, he told the chumps that they could put it where the sun don't shine. news:3JgXh.53412$NK5.45149 (AT) newsfe23 (DOT) lga This much attention with no response on one poster makes you his pet. How does it feel to be owned? HILARIOUS!!! And I quote: " > "Lenny" <haysooce (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177362096.815946.221520 (AT) q75g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 23, 3:06 pm, forty <cfort... (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote: Von Fourche wrote: First the gas mileage snoozer IRL race from Motegi. LOL -- Looks like I spoke too soon, but I really did underestimate how much humiliation this guy could stand. Ah, confirmation as to why he hasn't responded to my remarks. As I said, he's simply tired of getting slapped around. " Yet another(?) anonymous, nym shifting, pusillanimous nincompoop crawls out of his hidey hole just long enough to scream for mercy. Do continue your horrendous, yet entertaining, self embarrassment, won't you. |
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. wrote: "Fred Nation" <fnat8743 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:b4ss23h2u3mal2lcnrlnf73s2pp9ukd1u2 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:16:05 -0500, "." <. (AT) dot (DOT) com> wrote: "Lenny" <haysooce (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177430616.202364.159320 (AT) n35g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com... Kalkhoven Proposed Champ Car Foray at Indy Written by: Robin Miller Indianapolis, Ind. - 4/23/2007 Wrong yet again you tedious, johnny come lately, anonymous, nym shifting, pusillanimous, nincompoop. As with their desperate desire to merge, he told the chumps that they could put it where the sun don't shine. news:3JgXh.53412$NK5.45149 (AT) newsfe23 (DOT) lga This much attention with no response on one poster makes you his pet. How does it feel to be owned? HILARIOUS!!! And I quote: " > "Lenny" <haysooce (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177362096.815946.221520 (AT) q75g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 23, 3:06 pm, forty <cfort... (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote: Von Fourche wrote: First the gas mileage snoozer IRL race from Motegi. LOL -- Looks like I spoke too soon, but I really did underestimate how much humiliation this guy could stand. Ah, confirmation as to why he hasn't responded to my remarks. As I said, he's simply tired of getting slapped around. " Yet another(?) anonymous, nym shifting, pusillanimous nincompoop crawls out of his hidey hole just long enough to scream for mercy. Do continue your horrendous, yet entertaining, self embarrassment, won't you. Looks like the dot's on the puppet strings. Dance, dance, dance little dunce puppet. |
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"invisibrarian" <hiddenstaff (AT) deweydecimal (DOT) org> wrote in message news:RnvXh.1688$OR3.350 (AT) newsfe04 (DOT) lga... . wrote: "Fred Nation" <fnat8743 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:b4ss23h2u3mal2lcnrlnf73s2pp9ukd1u2 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:16:05 -0500, "." <. (AT) dot (DOT) com> wrote: "Lenny" <haysooce (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177430616.202364.159320 (AT) n35g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com... Kalkhoven Proposed Champ Car Foray at Indy Written by: Robin Miller Indianapolis, Ind. - 4/23/2007 Wrong yet again you tedious, johnny come lately, anonymous, nym shifting, pusillanimous, nincompoop. As with their desperate desire to merge, he told the chumps that they could put it where the sun don't shine. news:3JgXh.53412$NK5.45149 (AT) newsfe23 (DOT) lga This much attention with no response on one poster makes you his pet. How does it feel to be owned? HILARIOUS!!! And I quote: " > "Lenny" <haysooce (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177362096.815946.221520 (AT) q75g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 23, 3:06 pm, forty <cfort... (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote: Von Fourche wrote: First the gas mileage snoozer IRL race from Motegi. LOL -- Looks like I spoke too soon, but I really did underestimate how much humiliation this guy could stand. Ah, confirmation as to why he hasn't responded to my remarks. As I said, he's simply tired of getting slapped around. " Yet another(?) anonymous, nym shifting, pusillanimous nincompoop crawls out of his hidey hole just long enough to scream for mercy. Do continue your horrendous, yet entertaining, self embarrassment, won't you. Looks like the dot's on the puppet strings. Dance, dance, dance little dunce puppet. Coming from an anonymous, nym shifting, pusillanimous, addlepated, mental defective nincompoop like you, that risible assertion carries such IMMENSE ersatz significance. "Hump away, pissant, hump away!" http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...885b0cab59ad75 |
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"Fred Nation" <fnat8... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:b4ss23h2u3mal2lcnrlnf73s2pp9ukd1u2 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:16:05 -0500, "." <.... (AT) dot (DOT) com> wrote: "Lenny" <hayso... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177430616.202364.159320 (AT) n35g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com... Kalkhoven Proposed Champ Car Foray at Indy Written by: Robin Miller Indianapolis, Ind. - 4/23/2007 Wrong yet again you tedious, johnny come lately, anonymous, nym shifting, pusillanimous, nincompoop. As with their desperate desire to merge, he told the chumps that they could put it where the sun don't shine. news:3JgXh.53412$NK5.45149 (AT) newsfe23 (DOT) lga This much attention with no response on one poster makes you his pet. How does it feel to be owned? HILARIOUS!!! And I quote: " > "Lenny" <hayso... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177362096.815946.221520 (AT) q75g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 23, 3:06 pm, forty <cfort... (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote: Von Fourche wrote: First the gas mileage snoozer IRL race from Motegi. LOL -- Looks like I spoke too soon, but I really did underestimate how much humiliation this guy could stand. Ah, confirmation as to why he hasn't responded to my remarks. As I said, he's simply tired of getting slapped around. " Yet another(?) anonymous, nym shifting, pusillanimous nincompoop crawls out of his hidey hole just long enough to scream for mercy. Do continue your horrendous, yet entertaining, self embarrassment, won't you. |
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On Apr 24, 4:53 pm, "." <.... (AT) dot (DOT) com> wrote: "Fred Nation" <fnat8... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:b4ss23h2u3mal2lcnrlnf73s2pp9ukd1u2 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:16:05 -0500, "." <.... (AT) dot (DOT) com> wrote: "Lenny" <hayso... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177430616.202364.159320 (AT) n35g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com... Kalkhoven Proposed Champ Car Foray at Indy Written by: Robin Miller Indianapolis, Ind. - 4/23/2007 Wrong yet again you tedious, johnny come lately, anonymous, nym shifting, pusillanimous, nincompoop. As with their desperate desire to merge, he told the chumps that they could put it where the sun don't shine. news:3JgXh.53412$NK5.45149 (AT) newsfe23 (DOT) lga This much attention with no response on one poster makes you his pet. How does it feel to be owned? HILARIOUS!!! And I quote: " > "Lenny" <hayso... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177362096.815946.221520 (AT) q75g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 23, 3:06 pm, forty <cfort... (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote: Von Fourche wrote: First the gas mileage snoozer IRL race from Motegi. LOL -- Looks like I spoke too soon, but I really did underestimate how much humiliation this guy could stand. Ah, confirmation as to why he hasn't responded to my remarks. As I said, he's simply tired of getting slapped around. " Yet another(?) anonymous, nym shifting, pusillanimous nincompoop crawls out of his hidey hole just long enough to scream for mercy. Do continue your horrendous, yet entertaining, self embarrassment, won't you. Apparently that new thesaurus never showed up, so it's back to the good ol' Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V... |
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