IRL - Champ Car Reunification

#41

He's closer to reality than you think. Born and raised in Hickory, NC --
Home of the Hickory Motor speedway where most of the legends of Nascar
hewned there "skill."

I detest Nascrap I don't mind the drivers. They are just trying to make a
living. I hate the series. It caters to the casual motor racing fan and It
has dumbed down motor racing so that the lowest common denominator can
"understand it."

I hate the fact that the France family can run a virtual monopoly; Muscling
others out of business with no antitrust repercussions. They are basically
the mafia of American Oval motor Racing.

Sure there are some people with money that watch Nascar, but the vast
majority of Nascar's fandom are Joe Sixpack. The only reason they (Joe and
Jane Sixpack) hate Open Wheel is because they don't understand it. Many of
them "hate the ferners cause day got funny names," which reminds them of the
mexican that took their job at the mill.

I grew up enjoying Indycar because of the technology involved. I had a
fascination with watching quick nimble cars dash around a variety of tracks.
Watching these drivers adapt to various circuits in pursuit of a season
championship always made me feel like these drivers were really special.

I understand that Nascar has brought Brie eaters into the fold, but still
the vast majority of their fans are people like the Sixpack's.

..
"armpit" <udontneedit (AT) myemail (DOT) addy> wrote

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toby (AT) cox (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Carey Akin <cmakin (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote:

They seem to be doing pretty well without much of a foreign market.

I don't really see how catering to an international market will benefit
an
American open wheel series. In my view, catering to a market outside of
your fan base runs the risk of alienating your fan base.

That's only because you associate with NASCAR fans who aren't aware that
there is a world outside of the US, unless they left during a stint in
the military to blow up some third world shit hole.

Another arrogant POS pointy car fans that has a low opinion of Nascar fans
but really doesn't know shit about them.

#42

Apparently you are the only one that understands your own psychobabble. Of
course that means that you probably don't understand what I am saying here.

If you are on another intellectual wave length, one that we do not and can
not understand, then why are you trying to communicate with us.

I think that Cal is probably closer to the truth than some other's would
care to imagine. Very scary.

"." <. (AT) dot (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

He doesn't even understand that for humor to evoke laughter, the
reader/listener must first understand the presented words and concepts.
But, very much like the exosphere, that's much too far over his head.

"Shell" <jtshellnc (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote in message
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You, appparently, are the only one laughing. Not a very good humorist, I
must say.

"." <. (AT) dot (DOT) com> wrote

What's funny is his pretention providing proof postive that he in
no way whatsoever caught the humor, never could and never will.

"Jeff Parsons" <email (AT) message (DOT) sig> wrote in message
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In article <KwRLf.3363$S25.1908 (AT) newsread1 (DOT) news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Shell" <jtshellnc (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

Does Dot even understand his own incoherent babble?

Dot is having difficulty coming to grips with the notion that Toe Knee
just might cave. From the instant that this item broke, dot has been
testing the Safer barriers at every opportunity.

Dot thought his "word play" was humorous. <chuckle> I quite agree
with
his assessment of experimental projects. I merely expanded on the
list.

What -is- humorous, is that dot insists on testing those Safer
barriers
with appendages in his yap. ;-)

-Jeff

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"Jeff Parsons" <email (AT) message (DOT) sig> wrote in message
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In article <DrbLf.5686$z82.4677@fed1read07>, "." <. (AT) dot (DOT) com
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"SG" <spaamtrapper (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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The bigger question is:

What would the new series be called?

A combined grouping of that sort is tantamount to a proposal
of a unified field theory, fits well with this year's IRL
featuring
of the Michael's son Marco experimental project.

Experimental projects?

Is that like a Whinedretti trying one more time? Or an
Underacheever
trying one more time? Are they trying one more time, or are they
padding? And didn't they once race for Champ Car?

Champ Car. The future of open wheel in North America. ;-)

-Jeff

--
My email address is gamson att nb dott sympatico dott ca

The mental midget can rest assured in the most certain
knowledge that he isn't, and never will be, in the slightest
danger of ever finding himself anywhere in the vicinity of
a realization of the intended humor in those word plays.

--
My email address is gamson att nb dott sympatico dott ca

#43

That which his evident limited education and experience
doesn't comprehend apparently constitutes "psychobabble".
And although possessing "expertise" in psychology, guidance
and counseling, illogic and egocentrism nevertheless convince
him that he represents everyone else. Now that's entertainment.

"Shell" <jtshellnc (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

Apparently you are the only one that understands your own psychobabble. Of
course that means that you probably don't understand what I am saying
here.

If you are on another intellectual wave length, one that we do not and can
not understand, then why are you trying to communicate with us.

I think that Cal is probably closer to the truth than some other's would
care to imagine. Very scary.

"." <. (AT) dot (DOT) com> wrote

He doesn't even understand that for humor to evoke laughter, the
reader/listener must first understand the presented words and concepts.
But, very much like the exosphere, that's much too far over his head.

"Shell" <jtshellnc (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:F20Mf.3513$S25.3012 (AT) newsread1 (DOT) news.atl.earthlink.net...
You, appparently, are the only one laughing. Not a very good humorist,
I
must say.

"." <. (AT) dot (DOT) com> wrote

What's funny is his pretention providing proof postive that he in
no way whatsoever caught the humor, never could and never will.

"Jeff Parsons" <email (AT) message (DOT) sig> wrote in message
news:email-A14643.07535825022006 (AT) news-nb00s0 (DOT) nbnet.nb.ca...
In article <KwRLf.3363$S25.1908 (AT) newsread1 (DOT) news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Shell" <jtshellnc (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

Does Dot even understand his own incoherent babble?

Dot is having difficulty coming to grips with the notion that Toe
Knee
just might cave. From the instant that this item broke, dot has
been
testing the Safer barriers at every opportunity.

Dot thought his "word play" was humorous. <chuckle> I quite agree
with
his assessment of experimental projects. I merely expanded on the
list.

What -is- humorous, is that dot insists on testing those Safer
barriers
with appendages in his yap. ;-)

-Jeff

"." <. (AT) dot (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"Jeff Parsons" <email (AT) message (DOT) sig> wrote in message
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In article <DrbLf.5686$z82.4677@fed1read07>, "." <. (AT) dot (DOT) com
wrote:

"SG" <spaamtrapper (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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The bigger question is:

What would the new series be called?

A combined grouping of that sort is tantamount to a proposal
of a unified field theory, fits well with this year's IRL
featuring
of the Michael's son Marco experimental project.

Experimental projects?

Is that like a Whinedretti trying one more time? Or an
Underacheever
trying one more time? Are they trying one more time, or are
they
padding? And didn't they once race for Champ Car?

Champ Car. The future of open wheel in North America. ;-)

-Jeff

--
My email address is gamson att nb dott sympatico dott ca

The mental midget can rest assured in the most certain
knowledge that he isn't, and never will be, in the slightest
danger of ever finding himself anywhere in the vicinity of
a realization of the intended humor in those word plays.

--
My email address is gamson att nb dott sympatico dott ca

#44

Carey Akin wrote:

Quote:

Well, the 500 is still the biggest race in the world.

No. Statistically, the Grand Prix du Canada was the biggest race of the
world in 2005 in terms of how many people around the world watched it.

And, IIRC, the Daytona 500 has been crushing the Indy 500 in recent years.
--
There's a fine line between not listening and not caring.
I like to think that I walk that line every day of my life.

-Forty

#45

mark <usenet1958 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:

only 2 road races which are filled with ringers that come in for
a weekend, and with little testing make the majority of the field
look terrible.

Of course I cannot find where anyone other than a regular has ever
one a Cup race at Watkins Glen or Sonoma. And as you know, last year
Tony Stewart won both.

So yep, there are some 'ringers', and while they do better than some
of the regulars, they don't win.

sam

#46

Quote:

mark <usenet1958 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

only 2 road races which are filled with ringers that come in for
a weekend, and with little testing make the majority of the field
look terrible.

My understanding is that quite a bit of testing takes
place with these "ringers" behind the wheel. Many teams
test their road course cars at VIR.

#47

The portly blowhard belovedly known as CHIM-CHIM belched and spewed his
latest meal's remnants, and this absurdity:

Quote:

toby (AT) cox (DOT) com> wrote in message
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That's only because you associate with NASCAR fans who aren't aware that
there is a world outside of the US, unless they left during a stint in
the military to blow up some third world shit hole.

And you would be very wrong with that opinion.

Carey in Manvel

Might be an apt description of you. Eh, CHIM-ey, old boy? After all,
you didn't know Santa Rosa de Copan's location, despite your directly
preceding claims of superior knowledge and understanding of all things
Honduran. Your complete ignorance of the area, history, country and
culture couldn't have been more unmistakably defined.

#48

On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 06:53:56 UTC, Cal Vanize
<forgetthespam (AT) nospamhere (DOT) au> wrote:

Quote:

Death to the IRL mid-year. CC seems to be close to emerging. When the
IRL dies, its surviving teams will need to go somewhere. That's when
the split will end.

let me know when the lsd wears off

DSE

#49

dse wrote:

Quote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 06:53:56 UTC, Cal Vanize
forgetthespam (AT) nospamhere (DOT) au> wrote:

Death to the IRL mid-year. CC seems to be close to emerging. When the
IRL dies, its surviving teams will need to go somewhere. That's when
the split will end.

let me know when the lsd wears off

DSE

There never was any for me. Let me know when you resume contact with
reality.

#50

Carey Akin wrote:

Quote:

"forty" <cforte (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Thanks for bringing that out. If you hadn't, I was going to. IIRC, the
NASCAR schedule is now pretty much half above and half below the
Mason-Dixon, so to speak. Also, expansion into Mexico and Canada are
excellent first steps for NASCAR. However, as of now, NASCAR's top-flight
series is pretty much American only, and there are a fair number of
loyalists who would prefer to see it stay that way.

They seem to be doing pretty well without much of a foreign market. I'm not
so sure that they need to expand internationally. <snip

http://www.nascar.com/2006/news/head.../mexico.track/

"We have to go international,'' Sabates said. "If we don't go
international we're going to die. I shouldn't say die, but we're not
going to grow. I beg to say that it may not be in my lifetime, but in a
lot of young people like [driver] Reed Sorenson's lifetime, we'll be
running in Europe.''

--
There's a fine line between not listening and not caring.
I like to think that I walk that line every day of my life.

-Forty

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