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Default Re: is picking a side a requirement? - 01-20-2007 , 10:08 PM







Mark B wrote:
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Neither have we. But his son, Dale,Jr., is one of the big stars of NASCAR
along with the likes of Tony Stewart and Jeff Gordon.

Those foreign double clutchers are not such big heat in the good old US of
A.


Well some guy with the intials JPM will be there kicking backside soon and
if Toyota doesn't have a Japanese driver in the series within 2 years Id be
shocked. Some Canadian that happens to be a former world driving champion
has been rumored to be headed for stock cars. Enjoy the last of the old
days. That Camry will have an Accord on its tail soon and the top ten at
Daytona will likely have no American makes in it soon. Not that it makes
any difference anymore with the current spec stock car.

Yeah, what's gonna happen to all these racist, xenophobe white trash
morons once NASCAR becomes globally integrated? They're gonna be pretty
messed up.



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Default Re: is picking a side a requirement? - 01-20-2007 , 10:11 PM








Dave-E wrote:

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Hilarious sentence, there Jethro. I wud say you is ignant.

lol...


I find that statement highly insulting. There is no point to that kind
of harsh criticism of Jethro by comparing him to that unwashed trailer
trash.



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Carey Akin
 
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Default Re: is picking a side a requirement? - 01-21-2007 , 12:17 AM




"RickyBobby" <nascar42 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

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If you want to watch the races for free somebody has to pay for it. Those
people are called sponsors. Those sponsors do not want some guy from
another hemisphere talkings about how his favorite product or service is
the best. He never used none of ours and we ain't never even heard of none
of his.
It is the standard CHUMP argument. If you state that the decline in
popularity of open wheel racing is because of drivers from other countries,
you are a xenophobe. But, of course the CHUMPS are immune from such labels
when they go on and make bumpkin comments. I feel it has less to do with
the sponsors than what the fans want to see. Do Europeans flock to baseball
and American football? No.

Carey in Manvel




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Cal Vanize
 
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Default Re: is picking a side a requirement? - 01-21-2007 , 12:36 AM





Carey Akin wrote:

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"RickyBobby" <nascar42 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in message
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If you want to watch the races for free somebody has to pay for it. Those
people are called sponsors. Those sponsors do not want some guy from
another hemisphere talkings about how his favorite product or service is
the best. He never used none of ours and we ain't never even heard of none
of his.

It is the standard CHUMP argument. If you state that the decline in
popularity of open wheel racing is because of drivers from other countries,
you are a xenophobe. But, of course the CHUMPS are immune from such labels
when they go on and make bumpkin comments. I feel it has less to do with
the sponsors than what the fans want to see. Do Europeans flock to baseball
and American football? No.

Carey in Manvel
Please depart earth and return to your home planet. Wasn't it Uranus?



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ncrdbl1
 
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Default Re: is picking a side a requirement? - 01-21-2007 , 03:20 AM



You shouldn't have to choose sides, it would be nice if we could all be
allowed to choose what we want to see or not want to see without having
to put up with childish remarks. I personally do not care for the
product or the politics behind the old cart formula. Unfortunately to
some in here it is not possible for me to have that opinion without
being considered to be something less than a normal human being. Case
in point look at the two post below, both made by the same person. In
one breath he questions the validity of my remarks about being attacked
if you do not believe as he does. Then in his next post he makes a
personal attack against someone who disagrees with his point of view.


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Who attacked?
Or are you just so used to getting attacked for your stupidity that you

think any post with logic and common sense is an attack?
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Please depart earth and return to your home planet. Wasn't it Uranus?
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Default Re: is picking a side a requirement? - 01-21-2007 , 08:14 AM




"Dave-E" <davegto67 (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote

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Mark B wrote:

Neither have we. But his son, Dale,Jr., is one of the big stars of
NASCAR
along with the likes of Tony Stewart and Jeff Gordon.

Those foreign double clutchers are not such big heat in the good old US
of
A.


Well some guy with the intials JPM will be there kicking backside soon
and
if Toyota doesn't have a Japanese driver in the series within 2 years Id
be
shocked. Some Canadian that happens to be a former world driving
champion
has been rumored to be headed for stock cars. Enjoy the last of the old
days. That Camry will have an Accord on its tail soon and the top ten at
Daytona will likely have no American makes in it soon. Not that it makes
any difference anymore with the current spec stock car.


Yeah, what's gonna happen to all these racist, xenophobe white trash
morons once NASCAR becomes globally integrated? They're gonna be pretty
messed up.

America seems to be the only place on the globe where people will watch 500
identical laps in a row for four hours. Fittipaldi and Fukiyama did not
hurt NASCAR any a couple of years ago and the new guys will not hurt NASCAR
a couple of years from now. NASCAR is not going global any more than soccer
is coming to America as a spectator sport. But soccer is a good game for
kids who do not have the skills to play the real sports.




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RickyBobby
 
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Default Re: is picking a side a requirement? - 01-21-2007 , 08:18 AM




"Dave-E" <davegto67 (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote

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RickyBobby wrote:
"Dave-E" <davegto67 (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1169347587.291888.283740 (AT) q2g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...

RickyBobby wrote:
u8241 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1169334599.249688.136270 (AT) m58g2000cwm (DOT) googlegroups.com...
Maple1;

I fully agree that fans need to pick sides - but wouldn't both
series
benefit more if the core fan base focused on building the rivalries
within that series?

Supporting the sponsors tied to a series seems fine, but wouldn't
the
series grow if the followers of each ignored the other and focused
on
growing what they cared about?



What the fans care about is media friendly drivers. That means
drivers
who
speak English without an accent.

Helio and Sebastien are no Dale and Darrell.


Racist and Xenophobic.

...and just basically stupid...


I care about how a driver performs on the track. Not how he acts with a
mic in his face.


If you want to watch the races for free somebody has to pay for it. Those
people are called sponsors. Those sponsors do not want some guy from
another hemisphere talkings about how his favorite product or service is
the
best.

How do you know that?

He never used none of ours and we ain't never even heard of none of
his.


Hilarious sentence, there Jethro. I wud say you is ignant.

lol...

It is supposed to be funny, you dolt. It takes more effort to construct
funny sentences than to use proper sentence structure and grammar.




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Default Re: is picking a side a requirement? - 01-21-2007 , 08:20 AM




"Carey Akin" <cmakin (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote

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"RickyBobby" <nascar42 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in message
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If you want to watch the races for free somebody has to pay for it. Those
people are called sponsors. Those sponsors do not want some guy from
another hemisphere talkings about how his favorite product or service is
the best. He never used none of ours and we ain't never even heard of
none of his.
It is the standard CHUMP argument. If you state that the decline in
popularity of open wheel racing is because of drivers from other
countries, you are a xenophobe. But, of course the CHUMPS are immune from
such labels when they go on and make bumpkin comments. I feel it has less
to do with the sponsors than what the fans want to see. Do Europeans
flock to baseball and American football? No.

Carey in Manvel

I am not a xenophobe. I liked Emmo and Arie but it was the rest of America
who did not.




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RickyBobby
 
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Default Re: is picking a side a requirement? - 01-21-2007 , 08:29 AM




"xorbit" <xorbit (AT) nospam (DOT) ca> wrote

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RickyBobby wrote:

"Maple1" <aerophoto (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote in message
news:Hxtsh.739717$R63.348568 (AT) pd7urf1no (DOT) ..

Not only is picking a side a requirement Purchasing from the sponsors is
a requirement because without their support......

So... I shop a WAlmart, Bought a Ford, Buy Brigstone tires, eat an
McDonalds, I have a Visa card Ship Via UPS and so on




You have very poor taste.


I'm shocked that an redneck unwashed white trailer trash poster like you
would accuse someone else of not having good taste.


It was just a joke. McDonalds, UPS, Visa, and the rest are world leaders in
their fields.

I believe that the entire IRL, IMS, NASCAR, Penske, Gnassi cabal will
outlast the personal spending of the few remaining OWRS owners but time will
tell.

I hope ESPN can give OWRS and the IRL equal footing this season so we can
get some more data on what the fans prefer. The OWRS races are fun to watch
just to see half of the field knock the wings and wheels off on the first
turn. As long as nobody gets hurt it is great TV.

Public tastes do change and there is a reasonable chance that open wheel
racing can gain traction again in the good old USA. But as long as ESPN is
able to carry all of the races in both departments live things are just
fine. It really does not matter much to me who is footing the bill to put
the cars on the track.




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Default Re: is picking a side a requirement? - 01-21-2007 , 08:31 AM





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Like many fail to realize if Champ Car ended tomorrow, I wouldn't be an
IRL fan. Id be a totally ex fan.

Both things in the scenario you described would be welcome.




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