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Default Semi OT - AGR screws Penske... - 03-31-2007 , 08:12 PM






.... in sports cars.

An AGR driver doesn't know how to use his mirrors and a Penske driver
gets penalized for it. I can here the conversation in the tower now,
"OHMAGAWD - I can't take another second of that damn whining! Just give
Ryan the penalty and hope that shuts Michael up."

Unbelievable. IMSA usually doesn't make bad calls like that.
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Default Re: Semi OT - AGR screws Penske... - 03-31-2007 , 08:50 PM






On Mar 31, 8:12 pm, forty <cfort... (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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... in sports cars.

An AGR driver doesn't know how to use his mirrors and a Penske driver
gets penalized for it. I can here the conversation in the tower now,
"OHMAGAWD - I can't take another second of that damn whining! Just give
Ryan the penalty and hope that shuts Michael up."

Unbelievable. IMSA usually doesn't make bad calls like that.
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"To embrace an extreme, one must first let go of reason."
Well that could be but IMSA doesn't exist anymore does it? That was
the Amercian LeMans Series, and to their credit the officating there
is usually better than most.



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Default Re: Semi OT - AGR screws Penske... - 03-31-2007 , 09:24 PM



Mark wrote:
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Well that could be but IMSA doesn't exist anymore does it? That was
the Amercian LeMans Series, and to their credit the officating there
is usually better than most.

IMSA exists and sanctions ALMS, Star Mazda, and FBMW USA (and a couple
other support series). And I can attest to IMSA's typically excellent
officiating. I'm guessing that a very nasty protest came from the AGR
tent with the title sponsor of the event backing them, and IMSA made the
call in their favor to save some internal political face. I know some
stewards from SCCA who'd maybe consider that to be a close call, but
there was no doubt in my mind that Marino was at fault there and I know
plenty of other stewards who would agree with me. I guess they
considered it a coin-toss call and decided to let Acura's coin make the
call.

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Default Re: Semi OT - AGR screws Penske... - 04-01-2007 , 01:30 AM




"forty" <cforteNO (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote

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... in sports cars.

An AGR driver doesn't know how to use his mirrors and a Penske driver gets
penalized for it. I can here the conversation in the tower now,
"OHMAGAWD - I can't take another second of that damn whining! Just give
Ryan the penalty and hope that shuts Michael up."



I agree. And what's the deal with the cowardly color commentator? A
few seconds before
the incident he says Franchitti's car was acting twitchy because of the
broken back wing part. During replays of the incident the color commentator
says Briscoe was up far enough
that Franchitti should have seen him. Plus the play by play guy says when
the incident happened that it was just slight contact. And, the color
commentator says Briscoe was clearly trying not to hit Franchitti. So what
happens after the penalty is announced? Play by play asks if color
commentator agrees or disagrees with the penalty. What does color
commentator say? "Well, yeah, I definitely agree." Huh?







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Default Re: Semi OT - AGR screws Penske... - 04-01-2007 , 12:25 PM



Von Fourche wrote:
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"forty" <cforteNO (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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... in sports cars.

An AGR driver doesn't know how to use his mirrors and a Penske driver gets
penalized for it. I can here the conversation in the tower now,
"OHMAGAWD - I can't take another second of that damn whining! Just give
Ryan the penalty and hope that shuts Michael up."




I agree. And what's the deal with the cowardly color commentator? A
few seconds before
the incident he says Franchitti's car was acting twitchy because of the
broken back wing part. During replays of the incident the color commentator
says Briscoe was up far enough
that Franchitti should have seen him. Plus the play by play guy says when
the incident happened that it was just slight contact. And, the color
commentator says Briscoe was clearly trying not to hit Franchitti. So what
happens after the penalty is announced? Play by play asks if color
commentator agrees or disagrees with the penalty. What does color
commentator say? "Well, yeah, I definitely agree." Huh?





Yep. They sure changed their tune after likely hearing some nasty
whining coming from HPD and AGR.

Having looked over the replays again, I can see how a steward /might/
perceive it as being Ryan's fault. I would completely disagree with it,
but I could at least see where he/she'd be coming from. What I think
happened was that AGR protested and got their way, being under the tent
of the title sponsor for the event and all.

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Default Re: Semi OT - AGR screws Penske... - 04-01-2007 , 01:04 PM



On Mar 31, 9:12 pm, forty <cfort... (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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... in sports cars.

An AGR driver doesn't know how to use his mirrors and a Penske driver
gets penalized for it. I can here the conversation in the tower now,
"OHMAGAWD - I can't take another second of that damn whining! Just give
Ryan the penalty and hope that shuts Michael up."

Unbelievable. IMSA usually doesn't make bad calls like that.
--
forty

"To embrace an extreme, one must first let go of reason."

Ryan was wheel to wheel just before the corner then Franchitti lungen
and turned in in classic Andretti " make it or break it" fashion.

The title sponsor was bound to win, in any case. The color announcer
was a paid Acura pimp after the director reminded him of who paid for
that segment of the broadcast. I could hear the Andretti whine over
the great sounding Acure engine.

Having said that, you will have to pry my Integra out of my cold dead
hands ;-D



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Default Re: Semi OT - AGR screws Penske... - 04-01-2007 , 08:33 PM



On Apr 1, 12:25 pm, forty <cfort... (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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Von Fourche wrote:
"forty" <cfort... (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:578f7lF2bol2qU6 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net...
... in sports cars.

An AGR driver doesn't know how to use his mirrors and a Penske driver gets
penalized for it. I can here the conversation in the tower now,
"OHMAGAWD - I can't take another second of that damn whining! Just give
Ryan the penalty and hope that shuts Michael up."

I agree. And what's the deal with the cowardly color commentator? A
few seconds before
the incident he says Franchitti's car was acting twitchy because of the
broken back wing part. During replays of the incident the color commentator
says Briscoe was up far enough
that Franchitti should have seen him. Plus the play by play guy says when
the incident happened that it was just slight contact. And, the color
commentator says Briscoe was clearly trying not to hit Franchitti. So what
happens after the penalty is announced? Play by play asks if color
commentator agrees or disagrees with the penalty. What does color
commentator say? "Well, yeah, I definitely agree." Huh?

Yep. They sure changed their tune after likely hearing some nasty
whining coming from HPD and AGR.

Having looked over the replays again, I can see how a steward /might/
perceive it as being Ryan's fault. I would completely disagree with it,
but I could at least see where he/she'd be coming from. What I think
happened was that AGR protested and got their way, being under the tent
of the title sponsor for the event and all.

--
forty

"To embrace an extreme, one must first let go of reason."

Not only that but remember who the promotor for that race was???
Maybe just a conicidence, but then again maybe not. Decide for
yourself



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