"I don't know"


TG is quite the engaging personality...

Dave-E wrote:
Was he drunk? Sedated? What's with him?

On Mar 18, 7:11 pm, Cessna 310 <jolene... (AT) sbc (DOT) com> wrote:
He's a doltish buffoon. See 'the dot' for an archetype.

Cessna 310 wrote:

How could we tell the difference? What would it matter?

--
Frank....H

"Dave-E" <davegto67 (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote



Thank goodness for TG. Open wheel racing back in the middle 90's was
like a beautiful woman with large breasts who had breast cancer. TG knew
the only option was to cut the cancer out. That's what he did back then.
The ChampCar side tho would have said "It all looks good on the outside, it
must all be fine!" By the time it would have been apparent it would have
been too late.

TG appearance on Wind Tunnel was a delight. The guy took time to think
about the questions that were posed to him. He didn't say things just to
say them like Mr. Cash Cow. TG showed he's not susceptible to rash
judgments.

Don't think TG is a dummy just because he's not flashy. He's like General
Omar Bradley. He's getting things done.

He's made an F1 track that usually produces interesting races. He's
bringing what is possibly the most exciting form of racing on the planet
(next to the IRL) to Indy - MotoGP. And his insight, calm cool demeanor
under pressure, is what has made F1, NASCAR, the IRL, and soon to be MotoGP,
a success at Indy.

I Tivo'ed Wind Tunnel like I always do. I'm keeping this one for a few
weeks because of the TG interview. TG is a breath of fresh air.

Von Fourche wrote:
Operation was successful. The patient died.


"Uh... I don't know." Yeah, thats thinking about questions that were
posed to him.



I agree he's like a military leader. He's like General George Custer.


He has to do something. He ruined the Indy 500 so he's got to find
something else to keep his racing club propped up and his family jewels
profitable.



Yep, his breath is contributing to global warming.

Always thought of him as something of an oxygen thief ! ;-)

On Mar 19, 5:31 pm, "Von Fourche" <Khonak... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
You're a troll. Or completely stupid. Or both.

I would love to tear apart your post literally word for word, but I
feel like I would be wasting my time. It would be all to easy. Which
is why I think You're a troll. Or completely stupid. Or both.

On Mar 19, 8:20 pm, "Iain Miller" <d... (AT) spam (DOT) me> wrote:


TG shoulda been a blow job.

On Mar 19, 5:31 pm, "Von Fourche" <Khonak... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:


Well lets see I know guys, and I see others have thought about doing
the same thing, but some things simply must not go unchallenged lest
they be mistaken for the truth.

Open wheel racings problems of the early 90s were nothing like a
cancer. More like a headache (some may think the pain was a little
lower than the head) but using your own analogy you don't do surgery
with a chainsaw. Doctors use precision, skill and all the latest
science at their disposal to do their best to see the patient
survive. Remember first do no harm??? What Tony did was the same as
removing a zit with a Poulan. Its biggest problem is that he didn't
control it.

Now I have yet to see a single thing that he proclaims that he formed
the IRL to fix that couldn't have addressed in other ways. Want more
ovals, he could have easily built a couple and I am sure Cart would
have been happy to race there if the crowds justified it. More
American drivers? How bout helping them be prepared to find
sponsors. Heros of the short tracks can't compete in a road racing
environment? Help them get the experience that they need to be in the
big time instead of spending time in a series that is taking most no
where.

Now the "protect the traditions of the month of May" well as soon as
the IRL had to pay the bill, many of the things Cart had wanted to do
that started much of the back and forth were things Tony did himself
when he own the series. Why? Many of them made sense. Tony isn't
the only reason for the split, but it my personal opinion he would be
responsible for at least 80% of it. Further he was the one that broke
away when anyone with any foresight could easily predict what would
happen. You don't have to be a soothsayer to figure that out.
Trouble is he got control of a company without really ever having to
market anything.

I am sure Tony personally is a nice man and would assume nothing else
until I met him. You have your opinion about his appearance. Mine is
different. I saw a man struggling to think on his feet. A man that
was totally out of his element. Flashy has nothing to do with
intelligence. On that we agree. The questions that were asked should
have been very easy to predict. These answers should have been
prepared well ahead of time. Most were basic enough that he should
not need to think about them. He was either unprepared, surprised by
the questions, or trying to come up with something that at least
sounded good. He had the perfect opportunity to say something to the
Champ Car fans he needs to attempt to get them in the fold, and the
best he could come up with is I don't know. Honest and I respect
that, but hardly anything thats going to win him any brownie points
from me. He also was given the chance to again state the need for the
IRL and talked about the oval racing history. Tony if that's so
important, how come the last several events you have added been road
races. That one Dave should have questioned. I would have been
interested to see his response.

I am not going to assume as to who you might be referring to as Mr
Cash Cow. Such name calling only degrades the name caller. I will
not address such in any way. I will agree with you on one thing.
Tony does not appear to make rash judgements. Instead I read someone
that might struggle to make decisions. A delibrative personality is
desirable in many lines of work, but in some its fatal at times. That
doesn't make him a bad person, but such a personality if I am correct
could be very ill suited to lead a large business operation.
Leadership demands many things and can come in many forms. The fact
that he seems to struggle with public speaking is the least of his
concerns. He very well maybe a fine man in a situation for which his
personality that comes naturally is putting him in a very difficult
situation.

Your Omar Bradley analogy is flawed. Bradley could order men to
follow. A business leader must either convince or persuade them to
follow and those around them have the choice to say no way without
going to jail. If that was happening, the IRL would be bigger than it
was in 95 now wouldn't it.

First of all the F1 track at Indy has hardly been met with praise for
the most part amoung the road racers. Of those expressing an opinion
many Ihave heard often compare it to a character at Disney World.
Tony does have the deep pockets to make it happen, but if its making
money you can bet it is finding its way into Bernie Eccelstones
pockets. The politics of F1 are even worse than that of US open
wheel. If Ferarri had threatened to pull out of a race if a chiccane
wasn't added you can bet that chicane would have been up in an flash.
Its hardly something to be excited about being in the US. Im watching
a bit more of it now that Michael Schumacher is gone.

The Nascar races is the cash that has likely help keep the IRL going.
Does it sell out now? No but its proably going to have a higher
attendance this year than the 500 and definately will have higher TV
ratings. The IRL 500 isn't the greatest spectalein racing anymore.
Its not even the biggest race at its own track. Your motorcycle race
is also a bit premature. He said they have no deal yet, but the odds
are better than 50 50. Sounds promising but again hardly a done deal.

I will give Tony some credit for his part in the development of the
safer barrier. I am totally convinced that it wouldn't be nearly as
far along as it is now without his involvement. I also believe that
some of that support was due to an early IRL spec car that was unsafe
at any racing speed. Some suffered life altering injuries before it
was corrected. The energy attenuator helped with many of the injury
problems, but the safer barrier was another major improvement. Many
lives in the future and injuries will likely be either reduced or
eliminated all together from this advancement. Hopefully he will have
the pull to get the armco off some of the IRL tracks that is still
using it. Armco and an openwheel car don't mix well.

I have issued the challenge before, but any IRL fan can convince me if
they can name just 3 ways that open wheel racing is better off since
the formation of the IRL, that couldn't have been implemented without
it. The Nascar race, F1 race and motorcycle racing could have been
done just as easily with or without the IRL. Pack racing isn't it
either. Just three ways that racing has been improved with the
formation of the IRL that couldn't have been done in other ways
without its formation.

I also sensed that Tony was a very polite individual very concerned
about appearances. I think what really bothered him is the comment
Robin made that he hated Robin. Doesn't like him, but I think the
word hate being a very harsh word concerned him. To his credit, he
doesn't hate Robin Miller.

You might call an interview like that a breath of fresh air. I
don't. I call it more like a reenactment of the campfire scene in
Blazing Saddles in a confined room, with no windows, locked doors and
not a hint of air freshner. Not a pleasant place to be. Yet to his
credit he showed. Open wheel racing right now is not pleasant either.