What we know to be the truth:

1. People thru the years really never cared about the
IndyCar/ChampCar/CART champion. All they cared about was one race - Indy
500. All other races were races that were "before" the Indy 500 or "after"
the Indy 500 but the Indy 500 was the heart and only thing that mattered to
nearly all viewers.

2. Having many foreign drivers competing is more exciting as long as
there are lots of U.S. American drivers that can win. That was the case for
many years until the mid to late 1990's. Now it's non-existent. There are
no U.S. drivers that can compete with the foreign drivers. Another reason
why American do not watch IndyCar.

3. Danica Patrick is over rated. If this was 1992 could she handle a
ChampCar? I doubt it.

4. All the other Americans are over rated too.

4. To repeat number one - no one cares about the IndyCar season. It
means nothing. All that matters is the Indy 500. Once the Indy 500 was
tied together with the IndyCar season the Indy 500 started to be pulled down
to its current state.

5. Those of us who do care about the IndyCar season are a very small
minority. Very small and insignificant.

6. IndyCar is a dead series. It's running on old fumes and past glory
from the Indy 500. It can't go on too much longer. Generations change
quickly. Those of you who remember the glory days of the Indy 500 will not
be replaced, particularly with the kind of public that loves NASCAR.

7. It would not take much to make things exciting again - more engines,
more U.S. drivers, more chassis, a little more technology. Then IndyCar
will rival F1 again as far as the racing goes. Exciting, competitive, and
fun. Of course this is all easier said than done. IndyCar is already dead.
Its time has probably come and gone, like the black and white movie.

8. The only thing sadder than this dead series is the people who still
pretend its an important series - like the reporters for the Indianapolis
Star and Curt Cavin.

9. Tony George was a filthy liar and bad leader.

10. The best thing for the Indy 500 would be for them to open up all the
rules and let anything go as far as rules are concerned.

On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:46:49 -0400, "Von Fourche"
<khonakong (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

[snip]

There are American drivers who can whup foreign drivers. But they're
all in NASCAR or WoO, where owners pay them to drive and they can make
a good living. NASCAR is even more attractive to a driver who wants
to make a mark since that's where the best go nowadays.

NASCAR needs to find Andrew Craig so they can license use of the
phrase "We have the drivers."

Indy racing's downfall came when a bunch of owners came over from road
racing, and introduced the concept that a foreign driver would work
for less money than an American, or would even pay to drive.


Uhhh...you just noticed that?

Make sure you watch tomorrow's race from Japan. The overrating will
be in overdrive as they hype her win last year.

Ken Plotkin

I'd love to see every thing throw'n out and start over using the Champ Cars
from USAC or comparable as the platform . It would be more in line with the
hey days of the 30's clear thru to around late 60's . I remember them fondly
, I'm an Old Guy ....
"Von Fourche" <khonakong (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

I have always casually enjoyed open wheel racing--never liked stock car
racing.

i always thought the indy 500 was supposed to be a 'bring your best' type of
event...if you could strap a lawn mower engine on a chassis and go faster
than everyone else, then god bless you here's your check...

i can see creating certain regs for the sake of safety, and perhaps a
min/max speed standard, but it seems to me the 500 was always about seeing
how fast we could go without wiping out...maybe i'm just naive and there are
factors i am not seeing, like big $$ dominating, etc...but why wouldn't
benz, ford, or whoever want to compete in the event and put up their best?

Indy (and the series) had all that thru 1995. Then Tony
George had a better way and you can now enjoy
seeing which Honda will win each race.

While Indy used to be about bring out your best,
and an interesting, fairly open competition, it's
become more about trying to make sure there'll
be at least 33 cars each year.

-Sterling



On Sep 22, 10:36*am, "WhiteOut" <gof... (AT) 08 (DOT) com> wrote: