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Default Weird auto tranny problem 00 Trooper - 07-24-2004 , 07:25 PM






Had my Trooper from new in 2000, 43k miles on the odo, auto
transmission. Three times now over a period of a month I've started it
up in the morning and every gearshift (up or down) is accompanied by a
'clunk' with a bit of a jolt. When I start it up in the evening after
work, it shifts smoothly and normally. I also noticed one morning that
the 'D' light wasn't on, so I jiggled the gear lever and the lights
didn't seem to reflect what gear it was in, ie when it was in D, the R
light was on and when I shifted the gear lever to 2, the P light came
on. After a bit of jiggling the lights settle down to display normally.
Don't know if these symptoms are related, but seems to be a
coincidence. Anyone had anything similar?

TIA

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Default Re: Weird auto tranny problem 00 Trooper - 07-25-2004 , 06:22 AM






http://www.automotiveforums.com/f240.html

Don't know how similar the Trooper is to the rodeo but sounds like the
same issue my gf is experiencing. In the above link, post #114, problem
is described as a faulty mode sensor.

The above link is primarily for the rodeo. There may be a trooper forum
as well.

best of luck

blodwyn_pig wrote:
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Had my Trooper from new in 2000, 43k miles on the odo, auto
transmission. Three times now over a period of a month I've started it
up in the morning and every gearshift (up or down) is accompanied by a
'clunk' with a bit of a jolt. When I start it up in the evening after
work, it shifts smoothly and normally. I also noticed one morning that
the 'D' light wasn't on, so I jiggled the gear lever and the lights
didn't seem to reflect what gear it was in, ie when it was in D, the R
light was on and when I shifted the gear lever to 2, the P light came
on. After a bit of jiggling the lights settle down to display normally.
Don't know if these symptoms are related, but seems to be a
coincidence. Anyone had anything similar?

TIA



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Default Re: Weird auto tranny problem 00 Trooper - 07-25-2004 , 11:21 AM



Excellent, that sounds exactly like what's happening to me. Thanks very
much for the info, I'd rather be informed when talking to the service
guys than not.


Tom Sangster wrote:
Quote:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/f240.html

Don't know how similar the Trooper is to the rodeo but sounds like the
same issue my gf is experiencing. In the above link, post #114, problem
is described as a faulty mode sensor.

The above link is primarily for the rodeo. There may be a trooper forum
as well.

best of luck

blodwyn_pig wrote:

Had my Trooper from new in 2000, 43k miles on the odo, auto
transmission. Three times now over a period of a month I've started
it up in the morning and every gearshift (up or down) is accompanied
by a 'clunk' with a bit of a jolt. When I start it up in the evening
after work, it shifts smoothly and normally. I also noticed one
morning that the 'D' light wasn't on, so I jiggled the gear lever and
the lights didn't seem to reflect what gear it was in, ie when it was
in D, the R light was on and when I shifted the gear lever to 2, the P
light came on. After a bit of jiggling the lights settle down to
display normally. Don't know if these symptoms are related, but seems
to be a coincidence. Anyone had anything similar?

TIA




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Default Re: Weird auto tranny problem 00 Trooper - 07-25-2004 , 06:38 PM



If you don't mind I'd be interested in hearing what your service guys
have to say. The service guys at the local stealer said it would cost
around $350 to replace. I got the impression from the other forum that
the part is ~$90. I'm pretty sure I can handle two bolts, a nut and an
electrical connector. I've crawled up under cars for far less than $260.

blodwyn_pig wrote:
Quote:
Excellent, that sounds exactly like what's happening to me. Thanks very
much for the info, I'd rather be informed when talking to the service
guys than not.


Tom Sangster wrote:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/f240.html

Don't know how similar the Trooper is to the rodeo but sounds like the
same issue my gf is experiencing. In the above link, post #114,
problem is described as a faulty mode sensor.

The above link is primarily for the rodeo. There may be a trooper
forum as well.

best of luck

blodwyn_pig wrote:

Had my Trooper from new in 2000, 43k miles on the odo, auto
transmission. Three times now over a period of a month I've started
it up in the morning and every gearshift (up or down) is accompanied
by a 'clunk' with a bit of a jolt. When I start it up in the
evening after work, it shifts smoothly and normally. I also noticed
one morning that the 'D' light wasn't on, so I jiggled the gear lever
and the lights didn't seem to reflect what gear it was in, ie when it
was in D, the R light was on and when I shifted the gear lever to 2,
the P light came on. After a bit of jiggling the lights settle down
to display normally. Don't know if these symptoms are related, but
seems to be a coincidence. Anyone had anything similar?

TIA







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Default Re: Weird auto tranny problem 00 Trooper - 07-25-2004 , 08:24 PM



OK, I'll be contacting them later this week. When I've got their
verdict I'll add a post here.

Thanks



Tom Sangster wrote:
Quote:
If you don't mind I'd be interested in hearing what your service guys
have to say. The service guys at the local stealer said it would cost
around $350 to replace. I got the impression from the other forum that
the part is ~$90. I'm pretty sure I can handle two bolts, a nut and an
electrical connector. I've crawled up under cars for far less than $260.

blodwyn_pig wrote:

Excellent, that sounds exactly like what's happening to me. Thanks
very much for the info, I'd rather be informed when talking to the
service guys than not.


Tom Sangster wrote:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/f240.html

Don't know how similar the Trooper is to the rodeo but sounds like
the same issue my gf is experiencing. In the above link, post #114,
problem is described as a faulty mode sensor.

The above link is primarily for the rodeo. There may be a trooper
forum as well.

best of luck

blodwyn_pig wrote:

Had my Trooper from new in 2000, 43k miles on the odo, auto
transmission. Three times now over a period of a month I've started
it up in the morning and every gearshift (up or down) is accompanied
by a 'clunk' with a bit of a jolt. When I start it up in the
evening after work, it shifts smoothly and normally. I also
noticed one morning that the 'D' light wasn't on, so I jiggled the
gear lever and the lights didn't seem to reflect what gear it was
in, ie when it was in D, the R light was on and when I shifted the
gear lever to 2, the P light came on. After a bit of jiggling the
lights settle down to display normally. Don't know if these
symptoms are related, but seems to be a coincidence. Anyone had
anything similar?

TIA








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Default Re: Weird auto tranny problem 00 Trooper - 07-29-2004 , 08:36 PM



have had my '99 Trooper since new with 55k miles. Last week mine started
same problem you have. Very erratic - but like yours it's only in the
morning -- anytime after that it runs smoothly. We changed the trans
fluid first but didn't help. Left it at the dealer tonight so they can
start it cold tomorrow. Said it could be one/two things depending on
whether or not the rpms spike when it clunks - they do not. Did you find
out what is wrong with yours?


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Default Re: Weird auto tranny problem 00 Trooper - 07-31-2004 , 12:22 PM



I called the Isuzu dealer and they agreed it sounded like the sensor.
They looked it up and the price they quoted was $130 for the part + 1.5
hours labor, for a total of $275. Unfortunately it's not covered by the
drivetrain warranty, but they'll be fixing a slight oil leak from the
rear differential under warranty and doing a 45K service so I decided to
get them to fix the sensor too.

Thanks for your help

blodwyn_pig wrote:
Quote:
OK, I'll be contacting them later this week. When I've got their
verdict I'll add a post here.

Thanks



Tom Sangster wrote:

If you don't mind I'd be interested in hearing what your service guys
have to say. The service guys at the local stealer said it would cost
around $350 to replace. I got the impression from the other forum
that the part is ~$90. I'm pretty sure I can handle two bolts, a nut
and an electrical connector. I've crawled up under cars for far less
than $260.

blodwyn_pig wrote:

Excellent, that sounds exactly like what's happening to me. Thanks
very much for the info, I'd rather be informed when talking to the
service guys than not.


Tom Sangster wrote:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/f240.html

Don't know how similar the Trooper is to the rodeo but sounds like
the same issue my gf is experiencing. In the above link, post #114,
problem is described as a faulty mode sensor.

The above link is primarily for the rodeo. There may be a trooper
forum as well.

best of luck

blodwyn_pig wrote:

Had my Trooper from new in 2000, 43k miles on the odo, auto
transmission. Three times now over a period of a month I've
started it up in the morning and every gearshift (up or down) is
accompanied by a 'clunk' with a bit of a jolt. When I start it up
in the evening after work, it shifts smoothly and normally. I
also noticed one morning that the 'D' light wasn't on, so I jiggled
the gear lever and the lights didn't seem to reflect what gear it
was in, ie when it was in D, the R light was on and when I shifted
the gear lever to 2, the P light came on. After a bit of jiggling
the lights settle down to display normally. Don't know if these
symptoms are related, but seems to be a coincidence. Anyone had
anything similar?

TIA









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Default Re: Weird auto tranny problem 00 Trooper - 08-01-2004 , 06:41 PM



If/when I decide to have the stealer replace the sensor on the rodeo
I'll be sure to let him know that I expect to see the removed part.
Apparently the sensor can be removed, cleaned and reinstalled and work
fine for many more miles. You might consider doing the same. Best of luck.

blodwyn_pig wrote:
Quote:
I called the Isuzu dealer and they agreed it sounded like the sensor.
They looked it up and the price they quoted was $130 for the part + 1.5
hours labor, for a total of $275. Unfortunately it's not covered by the
drivetrain warranty, but they'll be fixing a slight oil leak from the
rear differential under warranty and doing a 45K service so I decided to
get them to fix the sensor too.

Thanks for your help

blodwyn_pig wrote:

OK, I'll be contacting them later this week. When I've got their
verdict I'll add a post here.

Thanks



Tom Sangster wrote:

If you don't mind I'd be interested in hearing what your service guys
have to say. The service guys at the local stealer said it would
cost around $350 to replace. I got the impression from the other
forum that the part is ~$90. I'm pretty sure I can handle two bolts,
a nut and an electrical connector. I've crawled up under cars for
far less than $260.

blodwyn_pig wrote:

Excellent, that sounds exactly like what's happening to me. Thanks
very much for the info, I'd rather be informed when talking to the
service guys than not.


Tom Sangster wrote:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/f240.html

Don't know how similar the Trooper is to the rodeo but sounds like
the same issue my gf is experiencing. In the above link, post
#114, problem is described as a faulty mode sensor.

The above link is primarily for the rodeo. There may be a trooper
forum as well.

best of luck

blodwyn_pig wrote:

Had my Trooper from new in 2000, 43k miles on the odo, auto
transmission. Three times now over a period of a month I've
started it up in the morning and every gearshift (up or down) is
accompanied by a 'clunk' with a bit of a jolt. When I start it
up in the evening after work, it shifts smoothly and normally. I
also noticed one morning that the 'D' light wasn't on, so I
jiggled the gear lever and the lights didn't seem to reflect what
gear it was in, ie when it was in D, the R light was on and when I
shifted the gear lever to 2, the P light came on. After a bit of
jiggling the lights settle down to display normally. Don't know
if these symptoms are related, but seems to be a coincidence.
Anyone had anything similar?

TIA












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Default Re: Weird auto tranny problem 00 Trooper - 08-01-2004 , 08:07 PM



On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 19:41:44 -0400, Tom Sangster
<tsangster1 (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:
If/when I decide to have the stealer replace the sensor on the rodeo
I'll be sure to let him know that I expect to see the removed part.
Apparently the sensor can be removed, cleaned and reinstalled and work
fine for many more miles. You might consider doing the same. Best of luck.


And there is always the chance that the one they show you is one they
pulled from another Trooper that they couldn't clean up and reinstall.
They keep that one to show the folks that ask to see the old part.




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Default Re: Weird auto tranny problem 00 Trooper - 08-02-2004 , 04:46 PM



Not if I write my name on it with a Sharpie or find some other means of
identifying the one currently installed.

Curtis Newton wrote:
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On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 19:41:44 -0400, Tom Sangster
tsangster1 (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote:


If/when I decide to have the stealer replace the sensor on the rodeo
I'll be sure to let him know that I expect to see the removed part.
Apparently the sensor can be removed, cleaned and reinstalled and work
fine for many more miles. You might consider doing the same. Best of luck.




And there is always the chance that the one they show you is one they
pulled from another Trooper that they couldn't clean up and reinstall.
They keep that one to show the folks that ask to see the old part.





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