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Default Re: 05 Jeep grand - 04-02-2005 , 08:07 PM






I would if I could afford one Bill.

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 13:03:22 -0800, L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
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You should buy one. That way you don't have to use your
imagination.
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Dick wrote:

Honda is doing it with their new Accord Hybrid. I don't know how they
are shutting off the other three cylinders. I suspect that, knowing
Honda, it is a seamless operation. Of course the engine has to
restart every time you stop the car, but I imagine that is very smooth
as well.

Dick


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Default Re: 05 Jeep grand - 04-02-2005 , 08:29 PM






And I thought the whole idea behind a hybrid was it was to be
economical, silly me.
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I would if I could afford one Bill.

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Default Re: 05 Jeep grand - 04-02-2005 , 08:39 PM



L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III did pass the time by typing:
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And I thought the whole idea behind a hybrid was it was to be
economical, silly me.
Nah, it's just to keep the dumb greenies happy by playing three card
monte with polution.

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Default Re: 05 Jeep grand - 04-02-2005 , 09:12 PM



It's actually the most expensive Honda Accord produced.

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 17:29:09 -0800, L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
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And I thought the whole idea behind a hybrid was it was to be
economical, silly me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

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I would if I could afford one Bill.


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Default Re: 05 Jeep grand - 04-02-2005 , 09:34 PM



The word fraud come to mind:
http://forum.thecarconnection.com/showthread.php?t=2008
http://forums.autoweek.com/thread.js...2108&tstart=60
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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It's actually the most expensive Honda Accord produced.

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Default Re: 05 Jeep grand - 04-02-2005 , 10:32 PM



You have to read all the posts to put it in perspective. I would be
willing to bet I could get better than the 34 mpg I get with our V6
Accord on a trip if I had the Hybrid. It all depends upon whose foot
is on the accelerator. Note that the 34 mpg I get is better than the
EPA highway rating for our car which is 30. If you want to be a
lead-foot, be prepared for poor gas mileage.

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 18:34:42 -0800, L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
<billhughes (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote:

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The word fraud come to mind:
http://forum.thecarconnection.com/showthread.php?t=2008
http://forums.autoweek.com/thread.js...2108&tstart=60
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

Dick wrote:

It's actually the most expensive Honda Accord produced.


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Default Re: 05 Jeep grand - 04-02-2005 , 11:58 PM



Do you know how the hybrid saves gasoline over your econobox?
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...63d19c4d7baf82
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

Dick wrote:
Quote:
You have to read all the posts to put it in perspective. I would be
willing to bet I could get better than the 34 mpg I get with our V6
Accord on a trip if I had the Hybrid. It all depends upon whose foot
is on the accelerator. Note that the 34 mpg I get is better than the
EPA highway rating for our car which is 30. If you want to be a
lead-foot, be prepared for poor gas mileage.

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Default Re: 05 Jeep grand - 04-03-2005 , 09:09 AM



Wait till you have to have work done on the batteries, transmission,
charging system, they are guaranteed for 8 years 100k but when they go
kaput, you are looking at $10K total what the hell are they thinking.

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"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" <billhughes (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

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Do you know how the hybrid saves gasoline over your econobox?

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...63d19c4d7baf82
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

Dick wrote:

You have to read all the posts to put it in perspective. I would be
willing to bet I could get better than the 34 mpg I get with our V6
Accord on a trip if I had the Hybrid. It all depends upon whose foot
is on the accelerator. Note that the 34 mpg I get is better than the
EPA highway rating for our car which is 30. If you want to be a
lead-foot, be prepared for poor gas mileage.



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Default Re: 05 Jeep grand - 04-03-2005 , 10:31 AM



Your reference post indicates a lack of knowledge of the Accord
Hybrid. What is it you are driving that a 255 HP Accord can't dream
of keeping up with? An F-16? An Accord Hybrid is nothing like a
Prius-type vehicle. Completely different animal.

I can only go by what I read in the Honda literature as to how the
hybrid gets better mileage than the standard 240 HP V6 Accord. It
looks like two factors work to increase fuel efficiency.

1. When cruising, Variable Cylinder Management deactivates 3 cylinders
until needed. 2. The engine is turned off when stopped.

Honda rates the Hybrid for a range of 649 miles. That's about 100
miles more than I can do with our 7th generation Accord V-6 on the
highway.

BTW, what you refer to as an "econobox" is over a foot longer, is
wider, has a longer wheelbase and more horsepower than our Grand
Cherokee V-8. Not exactly a Yugo.



On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:58:06 -0800, L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
<billhughes (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:
Do you know how the hybrid saves gasoline over your econobox?
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...63d19c4d7baf82
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

Dick wrote:

You have to read all the posts to put it in perspective. I would be
willing to bet I could get better than the 34 mpg I get with our V6
Accord on a trip if I had the Hybrid. It all depends upon whose foot
is on the accelerator. Note that the 34 mpg I get is better than the
EPA highway rating for our car which is 30. If you want to be a
lead-foot, be prepared for poor gas mileage.


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Default Re: 05 Jeep grand - 04-03-2005 , 10:52 AM



Sounds like you don't know a damn thing about your suggestion, the
Honda Accord hybrid. You didn't even mention batteries, Regenerative
braking, or the 12-kilowatt electric motor, all of which will only get
you 29 miles to the gallon:
http://www.hondanews.com/CatID2128%3...39095&mime=asc
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

Dick wrote:
Quote:
Your reference post indicates a lack of knowledge of the Accord
Hybrid. What is it you are driving that a 255 HP Accord can't dream
of keeping up with? An F-16? An Accord Hybrid is nothing like a
Prius-type vehicle. Completely different animal.

I can only go by what I read in the Honda literature as to how the
hybrid gets better mileage than the standard 240 HP V6 Accord. It
looks like two factors work to increase fuel efficiency.

1. When cruising, Variable Cylinder Management deactivates 3 cylinders
until needed. 2. The engine is turned off when stopped.

Honda rates the Hybrid for a range of 649 miles. That's about 100
miles more than I can do with our 7th generation Accord V-6 on the
highway.

BTW, what you refer to as an "econobox" is over a foot longer, is
wider, has a longer wheelbase and more horsepower than our Grand
Cherokee V-8. Not exactly a Yugo.

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