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Default 93 YJ auto transmission quandary - 02-06-2007 , 06:24 PM






93 YJ auto tranny.

Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the model
that I have (32RH ).

Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard.

Do I:

1) have current transmission re-built?

2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in?

3) upgrade?

I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might have
a few extra greenbacks to throw around.....



tia

paul



p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will look
like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\



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Default Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary - 02-06-2007 , 09:14 PM






If you are not pretty familiar with this sort of thing, I highly
recommend that you have someone else perform the work. Do NOT shop
for the "cheap" deal or you will be sorry. Look for a warranty that
covers BOTH parts and labor. I would be tempted to take it to a Jeep
dealer if yours is reputable, they will be most likely to stand behind
the warranty.

Don't forget, after you get it replaced you need to service it on
regular basis. Always use the "Severe Service" maintenance intervals
in your manual!

Good Luck, Bruce


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Default Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary - 02-07-2007 , 08:53 AM



Paul,

You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some
interest other than just draining your wallet.

The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed below.

FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in place of
the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission problems
are related to improper or contaminated fluid

If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when you go
to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not complete the
service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to have a
qualified shop repair their "repair".





ADJUSTMENTS

NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage occurs,
bands must be replaced.

KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND

32RH

1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case

(near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock

nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in

case.

2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If

Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50

INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold

adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m).

LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL)

32RH

1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil pan.
Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig. 2.
Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns.

2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting screw
4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34 N.m).
Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid.



Good Luck and welcome,

-br



"paul" <SPAMpdrapeau (AT) wi (DOT) rr.com> wrote

Quote:
93 YJ auto tranny.

Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the model
that I have (32RH ).

Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard.

Do I:

1) have current transmission re-built?

2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in?

3) upgrade?

I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might
have a few extra greenbacks to throw around.....



tia

paul



p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will
look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\





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Earle Horton
 
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Default Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary - 02-07-2007 , 09:58 AM



I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case
like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to
offer to let the shop make things right. You go back there and tell them
that the transmission has bands, that you want adjusted. If you don't give
them a chance to make things right, then you have less leverage for asking
for a refund. Sure they have no business being in business if they are
idiots, but anyone can make a mistake.

As far as the fluid type is concerned, if DC is now recommending a fluid,
that is different and much more expensive than the factory fluid, then the
shop owner has a right to question whether this is reasonable, and to impose
an added charge when the customer wants it. Lots of the chains have small
print that says which fluid they are willing to include in their standard
service charge.

If you let bands slip for too long then they get glazed or worn to the point
where replacement is indeed necessary.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray (AT) SPAMfuse (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
Paul,

You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some
interest other than just draining your wallet.

The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed below.

FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in place
of
the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission problems
are related to improper or contaminated fluid

If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when you
go
to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not complete
the
service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to have a
qualified shop repair their "repair".





ADJUSTMENTS

NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage
occurs,
bands must be replaced.

KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND

32RH

1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case

(near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock

nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in

case.

2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If

Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50

INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold

adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m).

LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL)

32RH

1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil pan.
Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig. 2.
Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns.

2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting
screw
4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34
N.m).
Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid.



Good Luck and welcome,

-br



"paul" <SPAMpdrapeau (AT) wi (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message
news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf (AT) roadrunner (DOT) com...
93 YJ auto tranny.

Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the
model
that I have (32RH ).

Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard.

Do I:

1) have current transmission re-built?

2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in?

3) upgrade?

I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might
have a few extra greenbacks to throw around.....



tia

paul



p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will
look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\







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Default Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary - 02-07-2007 , 10:48 AM



I might disagree depending on how he requested the service. If he asked for
the service recommended by DC for his '93 then that price includes the ATF+4
which DC recommends (a competent mechanic would know the fluid specs have
changed). If he said I want the $19.95 fluid change special utilizing
recycled waste Red Chinese Tractor fluid then that is another matter.

Paul, If you need the diagrams that go with the written directions just send
me your e-mail address where you can receive attachments.... (and remind me
it is for a '93 32rh band adjustment)




"Earle Horton" <apodo (AT) gracioso (DOT) usa> wrote

Quote:
I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case
like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to
offer to let the shop make things right. You go back there and tell them
that the transmission has bands, that you want adjusted. If you don't
give
them a chance to make things right, then you have less leverage for asking
for a refund. Sure they have no business being in business if they are
idiots, but anyone can make a mistake.

As far as the fluid type is concerned, if DC is now recommending a fluid,
that is different and much more expensive than the factory fluid, then the
shop owner has a right to question whether this is reasonable, and to
impose
an added charge when the customer wants it. Lots of the chains have small
print that says which fluid they are willing to include in their standard
service charge.

If you let bands slip for too long then they get glazed or worn to the
point
where replacement is indeed necessary.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray (AT) SPAMfuse (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:2e26c$45c9e7f8$422afc51$16884 (AT) FUSE (DOT) NET...
Paul,

You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some
interest other than just draining your wallet.

The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed
below.

FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in place
of
the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission
problems
are related to improper or contaminated fluid

If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when you
go
to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not complete
the
service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to have
a
qualified shop repair their "repair".





ADJUSTMENTS

NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage
occurs,
bands must be replaced.

KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND

32RH

1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case

(near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock

nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in

case.

2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If

Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50

INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold

adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m).

LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL)

32RH

1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil
pan.
Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig. 2.
Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns.

2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting
screw
4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34
N.m).
Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid.



Good Luck and welcome,

-br



"paul" <SPAMpdrapeau (AT) wi (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message
news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf (AT) roadrunner (DOT) com...
93 YJ auto tranny.

Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the
model
that I have (32RH ).

Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard.

Do I:

1) have current transmission re-built?

2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in?

3) upgrade?

I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and might
have a few extra greenbacks to throw around.....



tia

paul



p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this will
look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\









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Default Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary - 02-07-2007 , 10:50 AM



Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few that
feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others.


"Earle Horton" <apodo (AT) gracioso (DOT) usa> wrote

Quote:
I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case
like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is to




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Default Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary - 02-07-2007 , 11:43 AM



"Nobody" is sophisticated enough to ask for "current manufacturer
recommended service" except maybe you. They assume that "industry standard"
is "good enough" and they are probably right. I don't know about this
particular transmission, but if it left the factory with Dexron III, then
Dexron III is probably acceptable for it. How are ATF+4 prices recently? I
haven't had to buy any since I traded my Ram Van on a Suburban.

Now the manual transmission in my Honda Civic is another matter. Honda
recommended engine oil in the owner's manual for that application, but the
actual fluid specs have changed, and the oil that you find on the shelves
now is not the same oil that was on the shelves eight years ago. In that
case I have to get a special manual transmission fluid, which is reasonable.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray (AT) SPAMfuse (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
I might disagree depending on how he requested the service. If he asked
for
the service recommended by DC for his '93 then that price includes the
ATF+4
which DC recommends (a competent mechanic would know the fluid specs have
changed). If he said I want the $19.95 fluid change special utilizing
recycled waste Red Chinese Tractor fluid then that is another matter.

Paul, If you need the diagrams that go with the written directions just
send
me your e-mail address where you can receive attachments.... (and remind
me
it is for a '93 32rh band adjustment)




"Earle Horton" <apodo (AT) gracioso (DOT) usa> wrote in message
news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com...
I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case
like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is
to
offer to let the shop make things right. You go back there and tell
them
that the transmission has bands, that you want adjusted. If you don't
give
them a chance to make things right, then you have less leverage for
asking
for a refund. Sure they have no business being in business if they are
idiots, but anyone can make a mistake.

As far as the fluid type is concerned, if DC is now recommending a
fluid,
that is different and much more expensive than the factory fluid, then
the
shop owner has a right to question whether this is reasonable, and to
impose
an added charge when the customer wants it. Lots of the chains have
small
print that says which fluid they are willing to include in their
standard
service charge.

If you let bands slip for too long then they get glazed or worn to the
point
where replacement is indeed necessary.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray (AT) SPAMfuse (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:2e26c$45c9e7f8$422afc51$16884 (AT) FUSE (DOT) NET...
Paul,

You need to find a qualified "shop" to work on your Jeep that has some
interest other than just draining your wallet.

The band adjustment procedure for a '93 32rh transmission is listed
below.

FWIW: DC recommends that ATF+4 be used as the transmission fluid in
place
of
the factory Dexron fluid. DC also advises that most transmission
problems
are related to improper or contaminated fluid

If your "shop" used anything except ATF+4 you might ask them why when
you
go
to collect the refund they owe you...... after all they did not
complete
the
service you paid for (and lied to you to boot!) and you now need to
have
a
qualified shop repair their "repair".





ADJUSTMENTS

NOTE: Bands on the AW-4 transmission are not adjustable. If slippage
occurs,
bands must be replaced.

KICKDOWN (FRONT) BAND

32RH

1) Locate kickdown band adjusting screw on left side of case

(near throttle lever shaft). See Fig. 1. Loosen adjusting screw lock

nut and back off 4-5 turns. Ensure adjusting screw turns freely in

case.

2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). If

Adapter Extension (J-24063) is used, tighten adjusting screw to 50

INCH lbs. (5 N.m). Back off adjusting screw 2 1/2 turns. Hold

adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 N.m).

LOW-REVERSE (REAR) BAND (TYPICAL)

32RH

1) Raise and support vehicle. Drain transmission fluid and remove oil
pan.
Locate low-reverse band adjusting screw on rear servo lever. See Fig.
2.
Loosen adjusting screw lock nut. Back off lock nut 5-6 turns.

2) Tighten adjusting screw to 72 INCH lbs. (8 N.m). Back off adjusting
screw
4 turns. Hold adjusting screw and tighten lock nut to 25 ft. lbs. (34
N.m).
Install oil pan and fill transmission with fluid.



Good Luck and welcome,

-br



"paul" <SPAMpdrapeau (AT) wi (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message
news:45c91c2e$0$24510$4c368faf (AT) roadrunner (DOT) com...
93 YJ auto tranny.

Changed fluid and filter. Shop said that there were no bands on the
model
that I have (32RH ).

Transmission is still slipping when accelerated hard.

Do I:

1) have current transmission re-built?

2) have a already re-built unit tranny put in?

3) upgrade?

I will be getting a bonus check next week (not sure how much) and
might
have a few extra greenbacks to throw around.....



tia

paul



p.s. type face has changed whilst composing,,, not sure what this
will
look like posted,,, apologies if it is as small as it looks now :-\











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Default Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary - 02-07-2007 , 11:48 AM



Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning "developmentally
disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real estate,
but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I live
in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants to
start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This
will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people here
didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this guy
wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office and
every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen
anywhere.

www.silvertoncolorado.com

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray (AT) SPAMfuse (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few
that
feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others.


"Earle Horton" <apodo (AT) gracioso (DOT) usa> wrote in message
news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com...
I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a case
like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is
to






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Default Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary - 02-07-2007 , 11:19 PM



I have a former sister-in-law that plans to move there for the peaceful
life........ won't she be surprised...


"Earle Horton" <apodo (AT) gracioso (DOT) usa> wrote

Quote:
Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning "developmentally
disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real estate,
but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I
live
in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants to
start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This
will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people
here
didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this
guy
wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office and
every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen
anywhere.

www.silvertoncolorado.com

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray (AT) SPAMfuse (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:8f0c9$45ca0323$422afc51$20775 (AT) FUSE (DOT) NET...
Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few
that
feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others.


"Earle Horton" <apodo (AT) gracioso (DOT) usa> wrote in message
news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com...
I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a
case
like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do is
to








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Default Re: 93 YJ auto transmission quandary - 02-08-2007 , 12:16 AM



The neighbor had to get knee and shoulder surgery after being called in on a
bench warrant for failure to appear. I wasn't there but it sounds like he
has a good case. You try to mind your own business but then some guy with
bipolar disorder masquerading as a building inspector tries to get you
arrested for putting up storm windows without a permit. I got him dismissed
but it wasn't quick enough and the bastards didn't even apologize. Then
they fired him from the library too. How much trouble can you get into
working in a library in a place like Silverton? Now the train company wants
to dump ashes here instead of only in Durango. I talked to them and it
sounds like they want an "emergency repair depot for just in case" but who
knows what they really have planned until after they build it? The same
assholes that went after me for the storm windows claim they don't have any
jurisdiction over the train company. Don't have any cojones is more like
it. Sure is quiet at night though. Sometimes a coyote will come walking
down Blair Street where I live at dusk, looking for stray cats I guess. The
corgi we have isn't afraid of anything on the planet, except for that
coyote. Can a coyote climb or jump a five foot chain link fence?

If this woman has school age children, tell her not to do it unless she
wants them growing up like Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel on the Simpsons.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray (AT) SPAMfuse (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
I have a former sister-in-law that plans to move there for the peaceful
life........ won't she be surprised...


"Earle Horton" <apodo (AT) gracioso (DOT) usa> wrote in message
news:aJGdnbMJnKm3k1fYnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com...
Actually, the attornies that I know are high functioning
"developmentally
disabled" persons. All they know are Colorado Water Law and real
estate,
but they will try to tell you that they know everything. Of course, I
live
in Southwest Colorado, and what else is there? A retired lawyer wants
to
start an ACLU branch in Durango, and has lots of the locals upset. This
will "increase the cost of government" and other balderdash. If people
here
didn't elect idiots, there would be no need for an ACLU branch and this
guy
wouldn't get any customers. My neighbor is suing the Sheriff's Office
and
every government entity in site for police brutality. It can happen
anywhere.

www.silvertoncolorado.com

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray (AT) SPAMfuse (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:8f0c9$45ca0323$422afc51$20775 (AT) FUSE (DOT) NET...
Not all attorneys are the Shyster Spawn of Satan, there must be a few
that
feel remorse at amassing wealth at the misfortune of others.


"Earle Horton" <apodo (AT) gracioso (DOT) usa> wrote in message
news:EcmdnUZ1QOO2aVTYnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com...
I am not a lawyer (didn't like the eternity in Hell clause) but in a
case
like this if you want satisfaction the "most reasonable" thing to do
is
to










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